Given the fact that the bulk of the people on the expedition were on a relatively predefined path, a 1000+ people going out and returning over the same route are bound to run across a lot of the same systems, especially the high interest areas such as nebulae. I'm not making a big deal out of it, just pointing out an example where exploration is plenty competitive.
If I wanted a 'radio-tuning' game I would have rather bought an old radio.
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Given the fact that the bulk of the people on the expedition were on a relatively predefined path, a 1000+ people going out and returning over the same route are bound to run across a lot of the same systems, especially the high interest areas such as nebulae. I'm not making a big deal out of it, just pointing out an example where exploration is plenty competitive.
I've been using the FSS as a side-earner while doing trade runs, passenger missions & generally travelling around. The past week or so I've been out of the bubble but I still scan stuff wherever I go if I haven't already & often travel with the 'visited stars' filter set. I generally only map bodies I actually travel to though, either to dock or to visit some persistent POI or another. The FSS really is a massive time saver & money earner & I've scanned hundreds of systems (and tagged a few too) since it was added and earned several hundred million credits. Tags, cash & codex box-ticking are my main motivators atm.
But the winner in the race to get the tags will be the first one to reach a dock & sell the data, not the first to reach the system or scan the body.
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So the one occasion where exploration is competitive is when explorers get together to do things as a community.
#ironic
Our of curiosity what are your parameters for going to go check out a body. What did the populated system map give you instant that is no longer there?
I think you will find that the new system is alao for people that want to explore.
Because when it's called the God honk it's nothing about the credits. It's about what it discovers in a five second press of a button, basically every single planet and star in a system.
The fss:
You need to find them to get that.
You have to find them first. What's wrong with that. It makes sense. You discover them, they shohld be tagged with your name.
Yup, after you have discovered the planet using the FSS. That's good and was much needed. Not sure why that would make it a God mode though.
If that's all it takes, a few seconds of fidgeting, I am unsure of what the issue is.
Except we both know it isn't fidgeting and it isn't a few seconds.
Ere, that's what the FSS gives you.
Ere, no. Having the ADS in the ship would completely destroy the gameplay and the feeling it invokes of the FSS for me. It would become a pointless module as the discovery would be taken out of discovery as the old ADS would have already done it for me. That is the joy of the FSS. You discover the planets yourself, not a five second press of a button.
I am not sure why as it is obvious why. The old ADS discovered every single planet in a system with a 5 second press of a button. The FSS and new honk does not. Pretty simple really.
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The introduction of the FSS has killed ED for me, I like other aspects of the game but the FSS has completely ruined the experience as far as I am concerned. Playing X4 (which is a broken mess of a game from a software quality perspective) while I try to regain some of my enthusiasm for ED. As long as the FSS is forced upon us though, ED will always play second fiddle to any other game - it is possibly one of the worst decisions Frontier have made regarding ED.
Well your choice and your decision, hope you enjoy X4
It's a shame we can't find common ground in this, but that in part is the price we pay for having a multiplayer game where the point is everyone sharing the same experiences and potential.
If it was was a single player game mods could tweak this in a hundred ways (like the X series). But it would also lose something because of the lack of shared community (in my opinion)
If it was was a single player game mods could tweak this in a hundred ways (like the X series). But it would also lose something because of the lack of shared community (in my opinion)
Yawn ...
Yet another 20 pages thread about FSS I like it / I hate it ...
Yet another 20 pages thread about FSS I like it / I hate it ...
Yup. With the exact same people commenting, including me.
My method is to ram the object. 
I've reached Stage 5.
I've reached Stage 5.
Well thanks for contributing and keeping the thread alive. I like it btw
o7 - Could be better, started a thread in the suggestions sub.
It's almost like we knew it would happen before it even started. >__>
Hmm... spend yesterday evening scanning planets and didn't found it tedious. You enter system, honk, scoop the fuel (can park in safe zone), throttle down and enter scanner. At first I was tuning into certain wave and circle around to find every matching planet. Then next wave tune and repeat, narrowing down available sources till 100% completion.
Compared to jump, honk, scoop, jump hamster wheel.
Every action in game is repetitive. Landing is repetitive, asking landing permission is repetitive, taking missions is repetitive, earning credits is repetitive, etc.. At least new mechanic is more entertaining - you can actively choose what to scan.
Quite the opposite. I wanted long range exploration journeys but old mechanic made me fall asleep after 3 systems. New mechanic is more fun. Enter system, quickly tune in and bam - 100% scanned, lots of credits of income.
Every day you eat a meal, dress up, use a toilet, go to sleep, breathe and blink. Even scratch a butt. Yet you don't complain aobut those actions being repetitive.
And there have been some pretty poor decisions in the past. But I agree that this one is right up there.
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