On Improving The Safety of Commanders In Game

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I just got kicked from the Fleetcomm discord.

It's a shame because I was never anything but pleasant to the explorers in there.

The mods/organizers there are so petty.

They kicked me from the PG group a while back, despite my tenured status as a hard core explorer, but I only realized it the other day. I got denigrated pretty good on the explorer sub when I asked why, seeing as how I was a DWE alumni yada yada. Oh well, if that's how it's going to be I guess I'll just shrug and move on to other avenues of game play:)
 
They kicked me from the PG group a while back, despite my tenured status as a hard core explorer, but I only realized it the other day. I got denigrated pretty good on the explorer sub when I asked why, seeing as how I was a DWE alumni yada yada. Oh well, if that's how it's going to be I guess I'll just shrug and move on to other avenues of game play:)

Ahhh.. hell hath no fury, eh?
 
On the contrary, just because your're flying a weaponless ship doesn't mean you have a "right" to not be destroyed.
I have the right to not be attacked by a player if I'm in a ship never meant for combat.


The environment, on the other hand, is fair game for me to fall victim to space itself if I do not plot a route correctly.
 
I have the right to not be attacked by a player if I'm in a ship never meant for combat.


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The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live


In all fairness, I have the right to not be stabbed or violently killed if I pop to the shops for a pack of smokes, but humans and all, and the occasional wild animal on the loose, I accept that things won't always go my way.. Wouldn't expect anything else from a computer game the lets anyone arm themselves with enough firepower to level a city.
 
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Ahhh.. hell hath no fury, eh?

I'm not furious at all. Just thought it was funny to see a demographic whom I've always been so supportive of (they were the subject of my super popular Steam review after all) start calling me names and referring to me as "players of my ilk" and other charming epitaphs. Funny because up till the other day it wouldn't have even crossed my mind to harm an explorer. Mind you that doesn't equate to being mad, not in the slightest. More like amused. From here on until the day I no longer play ED, explorers will hold a special place in my heart. A different place than they used to, but no less special:)
 

The right to life is a moral principle based on the belief that a human being has the right to live


In all fairness, I have the right to not be stabbed or violently killed if I pop to the shops for a pack of smokes, but humans and all, and the occasional wild animal on the loose, I accept that things won't always go my way.. Wouldn't expect anything else from a computer game the lets anyone arm themselves with another firepower to level a city.
I'm not talking about irl examples of morality or anything like that. I'm only using your same logic and proving how fallible it is when used in the same context.

Sure, you *can* attack and destroy my Krait Phantom, nothing really can technically stop you from carrying it out if you really wanted to. But that doesn't mean you should, just like how I should never use a corvette for mining. If I am ever caught using a ship improperly like that, then yea I do have to right to be blown up by another player.
 
I'm not furious at all. Just thought it was funny to see a demographic whom I've always been so supportive of (they were the subject of my super popular Steam review after all) start calling me names and referring to me as "players of my ilk" and other charming epitaphs. Funny because up till the other day it wouldn't have even crossed my mind to harm an explorer. Mind you that doesn't equate to being mad, not in the slightest. More like amused. From here on until the day I no longer play ED, explorers will hold a special place in my heart. A different place than they used to, but no less special:)

Maybe not fury, but the picture I get is of the girl in the old-timey winepress stomping away with a beautiful smile on her face :D
 
This is a feeble smear campaign because someone was kicked out of discord by the organisers. Someone who prides himself of being the bad guy. Being a bad guy has consequences. I personally would have had no problems with him participating, but it's understandable others did. He made his own bed, now he can lie in it.

I’ll get to the rest of your post later, but what are you even talking about here? The OP is the result of my observations. Nothing more.
 
I have the right to not be attacked by a player if I'm in a ship never meant for combat.


The environment, on the other hand, is fair game for me to fall victim to space itself if I do not plot a route correctly.

My headcannon suggests that the pilots federation would not tolerate CMDRs randomly murdering clean ship. As the stats note, they track people's actions carefully. I would be down for a system where those that fire upon and kill a clean ship ( outside of a CZ and that is not pledged) should have to pay twice the rebuy of the ship they blew up. Maybe they are forced to pay it when their own ship is destroyed.

Then the prospect of killing 10-20 clean ships would not seem so alluring. Or at least force them to be more creative
 
Sure, you *can* attack and destroy my Krait Phantom, nothing really can technically stop you from carrying it out if you really wanted to. But that doesn't mean you should, just like how I should never use a corvette for mining. If I am ever caught using a ship improperly like that, then yea I do have to right to be blown up by another player.

Why not use a Corvette for mining? Or is that some weird joke. Anyway, you log into OPEN, you might get shot, it really is that simple. Talking about your right to safe passage etc is completely pointless in a game where everyone has the right to shoot whatever they want, as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences.
 
I’ll get to the rest of your post later, but what are you even talking about here? The OP is the result of my observations. Nothing more.

Never mind. Just shooting the breeze.

Edit: to clarify, there are those for who that statement is true. Since I'm not sure about the OP, aka you, I was wrong to label these same intentions to the thread.
 
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Why not use a Corvette for mining? Or is that some weird joke. Anyway, you log into OPEN, you might get shot, it really is that simple. Talking about your right to safe passage etc is completely pointless in a game where everyone has the right to shoot whatever they want, as long as they are willing to deal with the consequences.
Don't bring up the notion of risk vs. reward when it's already been proven that the consequences of being the victim of a player attack is all loss, and no reward if the victim even makes it out alive. While the attacker gets all the reward even when they fail to kill or steal from their target and have no risk of loss in the worst case scenario.

Now, back on point please.
 
Don't bring up the notion of risk vs. reward when it's already been proven that the consequences of being the victim of a player attack is all loss, and no reward if the victim even makes it out alive. While the attacker gets all the reward even when they fail to kill or steal from their target and have no risk of loss in the worst case scenario.

Risk vs reward, what are you on about? Am stating facts here. They have the right to shoot at you, if they kill you (whilst clean, they pay some of your insurance bill) you also have the right to log into a PvE only mode. That is all there is to it.

Look, I am not a fan of gankers, although I am glad they are in OPEN play, talking about your right to safe passage in Open play is meaningless and you know it.
 
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