Seen this a number of times. A self confessed 'noob' comes along and asks for advice on a starter ship for learning combat and half the suggestions are PA/rail/ fixed multicannon builds.
I can't think of a better way to put some players off.
Anaconda destroyed in seconds by npc's
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Seen this a number of times. A self confessed 'noob' comes along and asks for advice on a starter ship for learning combat and half the suggestions are PA/rail/ fixed multicannon builds.
I can't think of a better way to put some players off.
The thing is, it's not difficult to get good enough to get about reasonably reliably in a 'Conda. It takes patience, mostly. Patience to build up gradually.
It's a long time ago now, but I went Vulture, FDS, FAS, Python, and then I bought an Annie and skulked around without a rebuy, delivering cargo for a long time until I could afford to A rate it. At the first hint of trouble I ran like hell. I had a few very close calls with that strategy and I'm not recommending it.
Gradually I got to the point where if there was only one of any kind of NPC I could either win, or escape without much damage. More than one and I'd usually have to run. That's mostly still the case, in fact.
Knowing your limitations, and those of your ship is another thing that will be beyond most two week old 'Conda pilots.
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It also has a powerplant hitbox the size of a large barn. Stupid-easy to kill NPC ship.
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Not on this thread perhaps, but I've seen some where it's a popular suggestion.
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That's a rare suggestion for noobs in my experience.
People are generally very helpful and will make detailed builds, most often with at least some gimbals
For me the only thing that stands out here is... new to the game and... 2 weeks...
I had a year of experience doing lots of combat in Elite before I could even afford an Anaconda. And then I could only use her for trade at first, because I could not afford to equip it with combat worthy modules.
As far as the Vulture is considered... It is a heavy hitter. It is intended to be a heavy hitter. Underestimating a well outfitted (and piloted) Vulture is the beginning of the end.
Also... from your anecdote nobody can conclude what actually happened.
You might have made some fundamental mistakes. Who knows....
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Ok, perhaps I am being figurative with saying a half (I didn't literally mean 50%!) Yes, that does mean a lot of people are being helpful, but there are plenty of suggestions that some players would struggle with getting to grips with. Perhaps I've not seen enough threads on the subject, but I'm commenting on what I've seen.
I will concede that as you've obviously seen more than me I've maybe had a bad sample.
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Reasonableness is against the rules here Cmdr!
Here's an excerpt from the PVE guide ryan_m posted recently:
Good excuse to link it in this tread.
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/459859-How-To-Build-A-PvE-Combat-Ship
This came up in another discussion about getting rid of credits altogether- just lock every ship to a different tier of PF rank. Combat ships require combat rank, trade requires trade, etc. maybe have some kind of “exchange rate” where you can access any ships three ranks below your highest rank, so an Elite combat pilot isn’t forced to start trading in a hauler. Might work ok.
So much this. No amount of credits can replace the hundreds if not thousands of hours necessary to build and drive a big ship well. You also miss out on the joy (& tribulation) of progressing from a small to a medium and finally to the large ship of your dreams.
There's also the fact that NPC's are tougher and smarter now, specially in the CZ's. Engineering is now ma Darley imo.
Glad you're not giving up the fight after one heavy gutpunch, CMDR. o7 There's a ship out there for everyone, and no rush to the end; really, Elite is just Pretend Spaceman till you dowanna noe moar.
Vulture really is a great combat vessel for its size, punches far above its weight, and is a regular in many pilot stables. FdL; the personal selection of a wide swathe of PVP experts. Federal Gunship - Gunship is Funship. The Chieftain, for when you need an entire faceful of weapons. Personally I'd rather be fighting in a K2 than an Annie; the K2 is waaay moar maneuverable. o7
This is the first time i hear of any such thing, do you happen to have a source? As far i know the combat rank does not affect the damage opponents deal - only that opponents will tend to be of higher ranks the higher your own is.
I might be wrong but I assumed the original point was simply that an Elite NPC is likely to smoke a newbie CMDR simply cos the Elite NPC is "overpowered" rather than there being any actual adjustments to the damage/armor variables etc.
Course, that's why the game tries to put newbies up against appropriate NPCs.
If a newbie accepts an Elite-rank combat mission and then has their butt handed to them, I guess they shouldn't be surprised.
Wow what a difference a day and some good advice makes......traded the conda for a Krait mk 2.....totally A rated cept for the sensors and life support 2 gimballed beam,2 fixed pulse and a multicannon,mil spec alloy hull,reninforced hull,fighter bay,and a Bi-weave shield gen......holy crap thing is awesome i won every single interdiction,cobras,pythons,vultures no conda yet but wow this baby's got teeth...if i'd know how good this ship is i'd never have bought a conda even a python feels like a cow compared to the Krait,those bi weaves shields are super never went offline once and i only had to use the shield booster once.........no more running from interdictions lol time to learn combat thanks for the help guys.......can't wait to complete the engineering on this gonna be a beast
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You made a good choice in Ship.. the Krait is absolutely fantastic.
It's a very powerful ship, and Engineering only makes it better. It can easily hold it's own with NPC Anaconda's.
As you fly more, you will learn the in's and outs of ship building, you'll develop your combat skills and your personal style and when you later try that Anaconda build again, you will find much more success.
Glad to hear you're enjoying your new ship, the Krait Mark II is a really great ship.
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Not to be that guy, but grinding for 2 weeks??? Seriously??????????
I was in my Vulture for 3 months before I could even get an FDL!!
But as others have pointed out to you.. You have jumped into a big ship thinking your invincible, and your not. Anaconda is extremely vulnerable to something like a vulture, especially since you have very little combat experience.
Try and get a combat ship and learn some basics, or at least watch some videos to help give you some ideas on how to increase your skills, or how to deal with being interdicted.
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