Apparently some /later versions of the first Elite had a mission where you had to fight against a Coriolis station, taken by Thargoids. This would grant player the esteemed title of Archangel. I think it might be worth the effort to attack all Coriolis stations out there, while shouting:

WHY DID THE GROIGAN DANCE? / WHY WAS THE KANGAROO HAPPY?

- to the system chat, to see which one is it. For science.
 
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"On that note, though, we have numbered stations in Elite: Dangerous! You might want to write those numbers down.”

This makes sense to me, saying "number stations" doesn't. Whether this is linked to Raxxla is another matter, but imo it's got to be something pretty big in game if he specifically mentions it in a short interview
 
Just going to throw this back into the mix:

https://blog.eu.playstation.com/201...id-braben-on-his-favourite-titles/#sf79162914

Now its broadly believed DB meant to say 'number stations' instead of 'numbered stations'.

I'm still half of the opinion his intention was 'numbered' its an easy mistake to make I suppose but if you're going to leak something you'd tend to do it right....

Plus its the context in which its discussed. For instance DB is referencing another game where a clue was scattered throughout the game.

Now I wouldn't say 'number stations' correlate to that, their content that points to other content, not something hidden. 'Numbered stations' fits more into the context of a bigger mystery.

On this same note somewhere there's a FD post saying these number's on station entrances represent systems, as in where those stations are, but there was no diffinitive explanation on how those numbers related to planets etc, all I know is their all in Fed space. Probably nothing but like to get it resolved one way or the other.

I think Braben was referring to the unregistered Comms beacons and their seemingly random codes that they broadcasted.
 
Maybe it's like the 1984 missions, but more advanced, with set conditions to trigger. Which could allow a personal journey, as the generation of the missions could be different per player.
eg: on triggering condition A, have X combat rank and Y credits, it generates TDW mission 1 on your next system jump. Which could clearly be a different system for another player.



http://www.elitehomepage.org/faq.htm#A5

yeah, that's also what I think. Additionally we probably need an elite rank in combat or triple elite + allied with the Pilots Federation
 
Are you familiar with the Frontier Elite comic, by Dave Jones? Whoa great stuff.
http://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Comic/comic.html

Timeline in the comic says there were fossils found on Mars in the 2100's, and the first non-human relic in space was found in 2280's. Dates match with the timeline presented at remlok-industries.fr, compiled by the venerable Nicou, from various sources. However, his timeline goes even further stating that entire sources of fossil fuel were found. This means hyperspace was discovered at the same time it was learned that Mars used to be, what it once must have been: a habitable world. The non-human relic, found in space, Nicou subtly hints of being Thargoid in origin, but forgets to mention it was found on Mars too, as stated in tourist beacon 0175. Tourist beacon tells us nothing about fossils however. It's all very curious...
 
Are you familiar with the Frontier Elite comic, by Dave Jones? Whoa great stuff.
http://www.frontierastro.co.uk/Comic/comic.html

Timeline in the comic says there were fossils found on Mars in the 2100's, and the first non-human relic in space was found in 2280's. Dates match with the timeline presented at remlok-industries.fr, compiled by the venerable Nicou, from various sources. However, his timeline goes even further stating that entire sources of fossil fuel were found. This means hyperspace was discovered at the same time it was learned that Mars used to be, what it once must have been: a habitable world. The non-human relic, found in space, Nicou subtly hints of being Thargoid in origin, but forgets to mention it was found on Mars too, as stated in tourist beacon 0175. Tourist beacon tells us nothing about fossils however. It's all very curious...

The old and mostly intact timeline was part of the Gazetteer, that came with Frontier Elite 2.
http://www.dream-ware.co.uk/frontier/books/gazetteer/

The fossils found Mars are probably just an indication that the planet had an ecosystem in the early days of the solar system. I don't think they were directly linked to the discovery of hyperspace.

The relic was found 2280, between the first and second terra-forming attempt of Mars. It's not unlikely that the relic enabled successful terra-forming, by providing alien knowledge.
 
I think that stars on the background isn't Orion's. Look at MW. It's too bright. In other way stars look like Orion constellation but distorted by a point of view or by FOV. I don't know what to say. Probably we shouldn't look for any clues in this picture.
 
The Horizon main menu background shows an Orbis Starport in a system with an A class star (or O class, it is very bright) and 2 or more bodies, 2 of which are very close. Eddb.io lists 3,964 systems with an Orbis Starport.

However, doing this

SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT(SystemName)) from [dbo].[tblEDStations]WHERE [Type] = 'Orbis Starport'

on my local copy I get 1,991 systems. Better than 3,964, but still too many systems to search.


I've found no easy way using edsm or eddb to narrow it further down using this guess for a matching system.

Other than importing the edsm nightly dumps for Celestial Bodies and doing a local custom search.

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The Horizon main menu background shows an Orbis Starport in a system with an A class star (or O class, it is very bright) and 2 or more bodies, 2 of which are very close. Eddb.io lists 3,964 systems with an Orbis Starport.

However, doing this

SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT(SystemName)) from [dbo].[tblEDStations]WHERE [Type] = 'Orbis Starport'

on my local copy I get 1,991 systems. Better than 3,964, but still too many systems to search.


I've found no easy way using edsm or eddb to narrow it further down using this guess for a matching system.

Other than importing the edsm nightly dumps for Celestial Bodies and doing a local custom search.

I suspect this is TDW stealth station & it can’t be found this way because it won’t be in EDSM etc until it’s been found.

I’m no programmer, is that an Excel command line?
 
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I suspect this is TDW stealth station & it can’t be found this way because it won’t be in EDSM etc until it’s been found.

I’m no programmer, is that an Excel command line?

I think you are right. The TDW station will not be in EDSM.

I also doubt the Coriolis station in the standard start up video is significant. That one has blinking nav. lights and seem fully powered.
 
The Horizon main menu background shows an Orbis Starport in a system with an A class star (or O class, it is very bright) and 2 or more bodies, 2 of which are very close. Eddb.io lists 3,964 systems with an Orbis Starport.

However, doing this

SELECT COUNT(DISTINCT(SystemName)) from [dbo].[tblEDStations]WHERE [Type] = 'Orbis Starport'

on my local copy I get 1,991 systems. Better than 3,964, but still too many systems to search.


I've found no easy way using edsm or eddb to narrow it further down using this guess for a matching system.

Other than importing the edsm nightly dumps for Celestial Bodies and doing a local custom search.

Is there anything that might give away a general direction or any thing to widdle down where it might be in anyway? Even if it's unusual or seemingly unimportant. I'm not good with any of the subjects probably related to this type fo search. 8)

Is there any odd way to predict where you get a system with two planets that close? Or any other part of the situation? I'm not familiar.
 
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I can't/won't read 368 pages of speculation, but surely the only way right now is to brute force systems with a Gas Giant with 8+ moons. I would also start at Sol and head in the direction of the Pleiades.

I imagine, if TDW coriolis is in game, it will appear as a USS when loitering long enough around the right moon. Or a string of missions, given via unidentified message sources when in the right place. But unless you find any relevance in the Astrophel and Stella stuff, brute force is the only way.

Also, as I have been away from the game for some time, did anyone find any info on the projected starmap from the Thargoid structures? Or are we going with "not in our galaxy"?
 
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May we orientate using the Milky Way pattern? Some my ideas: it is the upper side of the Galaxy. It is more bright then lower. So picture is rotated by 180.
 
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This may be obvious. I'm not sure on previous speculation, but I think some of those stars are not stars. They are clusters of stars in the form of 2mass stars or similar. But from a slight distance.

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Or are those something else. It seems like a strange arrangement to start with regardless. Or is that glare from the sun?!

And I'm with the above poster. I think our best bet is to figure out where that part of the galactic arm dust is from.

Are you sure that is not a wolf star or one of those really bright white stars. The white coloring is very thick.
 
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I've been tying to look in to the mythological stories of the past and the hints and names used in ED, to possibly find a common link.

My assumption is that the most ancient human myths are a result of alien interferens, in the distant past. Probably som 10-15 thousand years ago.
Humans at that time would not have fully understood what they experienced or were told by aliens. Hence the myths and religions were created and modified over millennia.

Common for the oldest myths is the mother goddess that creates the universe. Often in the form of an egg. These goddesses are usually likened to bees. Particularly the queen bee.

Neith, Demeter, Cybele, Artemis and many others are seen as bees in some of their aspects. The oldest mother goddess sculptures, often feature a beehive as headgear.

I Greece the priestesses in Delphi were called Melissae(Bees).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Melissa

"Within a fragment of the Orphic poetry, quoted by Natalis Comes, Melitta is spoken of as a hive, and called Seira, or the hive of Venus:

Let us celebrate the hive of Venus, who rose from the sea: that hive of many names: the mighty fountain, from whence all kings are descended; from whence all the winged and immortal Loves were again produced."

Seira is believed to refer to Demeter.

The second tempel in Delphi was supposedly built by bees, from wings and bees wax. The Omphalos stone it self, is modeled on a beehive.
omphallos.jpg

Another strange common element between different ancient religions, is the belief that bees arise spontaneously form the decomposed carcass of bulls. This is so deeply rooted in tradition that the honey bee carries the same name as the sacred bull in Egyptian mythology. Apis.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apis_(deity)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Honey_bee

It's a strange belief, as bees don't go near rotting flesh. Cavities like skulls may have attracted bees to build hives though.


Could this mean that bee like aliens have messed with humanity, in the distant past of Elite history? Does it fit with the galaxy we live in?

I think it fits rater well. Thargoids are insectoid. Often refereed to as ants. Ants and bees are cousins. They are originally both wasps. Bees are wasps that became vegetarians and ants are wasps that stoppe flying(most of the time).

We know Thargoids have the habit of modifying existing life forms, for their own needs. They are rumored to be parasitic in their nymph;) stage and metaphorically they come from the bull, as they arrive in our part of the galaxy, thru Taurus.

There is common symbolism in imagery between:
Ancient bee goddesses
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The Robotic Avian:
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The central figure of the Thargoid machine with spiraling stars:
Bee-Goid-Small.jpg

Other hints:

- Siren song is often likened to the humming of bees.
- We have one robotic avian in ED. The rare comodity, Volkhab Bee Drones.
- The Rare commodity at Dea Motrona(mother goddess), is Motrona Experience Jelly. Royal jelly from bees were often used in intoxicating drinks used in religious practices.
- https://community.elitedangerous.com/en/galnet/uid/ed99a7d27746d23b0cb1a679eb398054e1c5ad7d

Something going on in the Galaxy or just coincidences?
 
The Horizon's main menu image looks like a composite. If it was a real place the moons would need to be practically on top of each other or have a massive radius (Which is precluded by the massive ridges). The station in the images does admittedly look like an orbis gone dark.

Alexium67's idea of try to match the galactic plane seem like the more promising option. I

There is a system near Sol, CM Draconis, that has a special system description, a white star, but no planets. The system description mentions it being populated ( albeit a low population anarchy with an economy) so that seems kinda strange.
 
And that old DW logo with dragon and three planets or stars? That one from the wiki... I'm kidding. Nevermind. :)

I have another question for you. Name of the main Earth faction - Mother Gaia. Gaia is the grandmother for all Greek gods. Is is the starting point for the personal journey?

But Alphekka - Dea Motrona line looks so solid... :) I can't to choose one of it for the thinking!
 
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