Thats actually sad to read. What harm does it do to try it out? You might be suprised.
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Thats actually sad to read. What harm does it do to try it out? You might be suprised.
Free or not the overall advice seems to be wait a few months for patches and stuff to come out. I'm dithering with the idea of subscribing to EA but not right now since I already bought BFV this year. 6 months down the road this will be well into it's maturity and could be in great shape to really enjoy.
well overall advice is generaly to make up your own mind and not following the latest hate bandwagons. Otherwise we can just close this thred because it mostly contains people declaring their non interest in it. Whats the point in discussing it, if most people are just parroting youtubers and didnt even try themselves?
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Very good general advice, many games I have found enjoyable, value for money, etc etc were rubbished by youtubers with other agendas and core audiences to appease. A good recent example for me was Mack Worth-a-buy review of BFV. Full of vitriol and hate mostly because of the "SJW" tag the game picked up in early promotional stuff. It's actually a great game that is maturing nicely as content rolls out. Much like anthem I'm sure.
Yeah, you have to be very selective if you want a review to be of any value to you and your decision. People have different tastes. Personally I have several reviewers in my favourite magazines who I know have similar tastes to mine. So if they like it, there's a good chance I will like it, too and vice versa.
But random reviews on the internet I find completely useless, if not downright harmful to one's decisions.
I just hope EA finds its balls and pulls through this negative pr storm. The core of the game is really good and it would be just sad to throw it all away.
Absolutely but god they haven't helped themselves at all stumbling stupidly through pre release then marred with annoyances in performance and other rubbish. I really think they shouldn't be releasing these every 2 years they need at least 3, BF1 had 3 years and it was all the better for it.
Anyway this is an anthem thread so apologies, please guys keep the positive stories coming that are enjoying it. I don't think people are trying to be negative just cautious with it.
Tried the ViP beta at length and wasn't overly impressed...tried the public beta, also at length and couldn't get past the Destiny with jetpacks or a revival of Tribes 2 feeling about the whole game.
I decided to watch a few YouTube vids from trusted content creators of the release gameplay before deciding if I really needed to waste the hard drive space... I was just looking for that single redeeming feature that could perhaps have held my interest and made it worth the while. Sadly, it was just more of the same for me. A shame really since it was certainly a pretty game.
It's still Destiny with Jetpacks with absolutely nothing new in a gameplay sense that would entice me to install a game I would delete after a week.
It's not like I made the decision on just looking at YouTube footage of somebody else commenting on it and following a silly trend... but the footage I saw was simply more of the same stuff I played during 2 betas with little or no variety from the 'Use jetpack to hover to shoot stuff' gameplay I had already experienced.
Just not my type of thing any more...
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I got Anthem for free with my graphics card, and played some yesterday. The moment-to-moment gameplay feels nice, using abilities on short cooldowns with combos and actually better than expected gunplay feels good.
The rest of it is just pure drivel though. Anthem is trying so hard to be Destiny they've even copied the inane story, ridiculously vapid NPC's and shallow narrative to a tee.
I feel sorry for the coal-face developers at Bioware who I'm sure were under no impression from the start they were making EA's take at Destiny, Anthem just strives so much for that audience and while it does somethings good, most of it is just throwaway tat.
The rest of it is just pure drivel though. Anthem is trying so hard to be Destiny they've even copied the inane story, ridiculously vapid NPC's and shallow narrative to a tee.
I feel sorry for the coal-face developers at Bioware who I'm sure were under no impression from the start they were making EA's take at Destiny, Anthem just strives so much for that audience and while it does somethings good, most of it is just throwaway tat.
Hm, I don't think its core strength is with the shooting, it's more about making stuff explode with combos. Maybe try that? Tho. I think the openness and distances also take a bit away from the "in your face" experience that was ME3. Now that I think of it, the gunplay and weapons were pretty good in ME3MP, too. If you want to see why many people hang around for Bioware to make another cool MP game have a look at that - it hasn't aged that much, imo. Apart from being glued to a plane without much verticality.
Seems Joe isnt a fan. Are the loading screens that bad?
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Loading screens are one of the few fair points in criticism of this game. It's not that they're long (At least when you have the game on an SSD, the loading usually takes 10-20 seconds) but there is too many of them. Especially when you are doing other things than missions/free play.
I mean let's say you came back from the mission and want to re-fit your Javelin and go to Free play with friends. So Mission -> LOADING -> Mission results -> LOADING -> Fort Tarsis (return mission, talk with people, take more missions) -> LOADING -> Forge (equipping Javelin) -> LOADING -> Fort Tarsis (creating a squad, selecting missions) -> LOADING -> Mission/Free play
Like I said, they're not long (Loading from the Fort to the Forge and back is literally a second or two, loading into a mission takes 5s for matchmaking and 10-20s for loading the mission, etc. But you are staring at the loading screens way too often.
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Jacques d'Orleans
Banned
Yup, the loading screens are way to many, which, imho, raises the question why The Division 1 could pull of the game without that much loading screens in the game three years ago.
In The Division 1 when you enter or leave a Mission or an Incursion there are no loading screens. There are short loading screens in The Division 1 when you enter or leave a safe house in the DZ or when you enter the map and use its fast travel function, but that's it. So why could Ubisoft do it and Bioware couldn't?
Also worth mentioning, the guns all look the same in Anthem, what the hell? Again as an example, The Division has a wide array of weapons beginning from Grandpas double barelled duck hunting shotgun, the Benelli Super 90 shot gun to a fully automatic shotgun called the Showstopper (IRL: Atchisson AA-12), LMG's from the M-60, M249, CETME Ameli, MG 5, SMG's from the iconic Tommy Gun down to the MP 7, Steyr and so on and so forth.
Were the Bioware devs just to lazy or just incompetent?
Also the AI in Anthem is mostly just a potato, go shoot at some LMB's in The Division 1 without a silencer and watch other NPC's running down a block to support those NPC's who are attacked by you. Yes, the NPC's in The Division do stupid stuff all the time but at least they make it look like they would react to being fired at.
Again; what the hell Bioware?
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verminstar
Banned
Im holding off on this game a bit longer, although it does look very tasty and just the sorta game I would enjoy. Problem being, I suffered the beta which just put me off entirely considering I didnt even get past the loading screen. Thats a real shame imo...cos now I wont touch it till its been patched.
I dont have patience fer buggy games anymore, mass effect Andromeda was the last time I put any faith into anything from this stable...even though I sunk about a thousand hours into that game, its the last time Ill suffer a game that buggy. Hell, I still play mass effect 3 because its one the best co op games ever made imo.
Time moves on and I particularly enjoy my xb1X nowadays...sort out the performance issues and then sell me the game. Money aint the issue, if a game is good then Ill happily part with the 60 quid entrance fee...but when it releases a game in the state this was released then I wouldnt pay 60 pence. They could redeem themselves with a good follow up patch...but until then just no, not gonna happen and I care little what excuses anyone uses ^
I dont have patience fer buggy games anymore, mass effect Andromeda was the last time I put any faith into anything from this stable...even though I sunk about a thousand hours into that game, its the last time Ill suffer a game that buggy. Hell, I still play mass effect 3 because its one the best co op games ever made imo.
Time moves on and I particularly enjoy my xb1X nowadays...sort out the performance issues and then sell me the game. Money aint the issue, if a game is good then Ill happily part with the 60 quid entrance fee...but when it releases a game in the state this was released then I wouldnt pay 60 pence. They could redeem themselves with a good follow up patch...but until then just no, not gonna happen and I care little what excuses anyone uses ^
I'm running on normal SSD (speeds 560/510). The loading times got better with latest patches and the insane drive "traffic" (at launch people were reporting the game writing/reading 500+GB/hour) was greatly reduced.
For me, the longest loads are the game starting (40s) and then loading into free play for the first time (30s), but all other loading screens are much shorter with things like switching between Tarsis and Forge or loading cinematics during missions nor being almost instantaneous (max 5s).
So I guess M.2 will be slightly faster, though I'm afraid it's gotten to a point where the main thing that holds the loading times back is probably internet bandwidth rather than drive speed, plus when in group, you are waiting for the slowest member, anyway, I think.
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I don't think the length of loading screens is the real issue, it's the fact that you need a loading screen to do absolutely anything in the game. I'm surprised it lets you do a 180 degree turn without cutting to a load screen.
verminstar
Banned
Well, I was holding off on this game but the abysmal update on rdr2 ripped the guts out of the game and plans got changed, curiosity got the better of me and I bought anthem despite my misgivings.
Im awfully glad I did...past two days, Ive managed to get to level 10 and only had one time I got stuck between missions and had to restart as the respawn action did nothing...its not bug free but anything gamebreaking is rare and the core gameplay is fast and fun. The loading screens are mildly annoying but if ye can look past them, the game is actually quite good.
Some say its just a destiny clone while taking lots of ideas from mass effect 3...thats cool, I loved destiny and still love mass effect 3 to this day a decade after it was released, so thats not an issue fer me. No, its not new but its a very good clone...one that could be just as entertaining as both destiny and me3, although with over 9k hours on me3 anthem has some catching up to do. Point being I like games like this so calling it a destiny clone is more a selling point to me than a criticism...how ironic the haterz have sold the game to a lifelong cynic.
So far my cynicism has been proved wrong...something which doesnt happen often. That in itself is enough of a novelty to perk my interest in something. The background lore is very complex, still catching upto that aspect but hey its only been two days...but Im hooked now so the damage is already done ^
Im awfully glad I did...past two days, Ive managed to get to level 10 and only had one time I got stuck between missions and had to restart as the respawn action did nothing...its not bug free but anything gamebreaking is rare and the core gameplay is fast and fun. The loading screens are mildly annoying but if ye can look past them, the game is actually quite good.
Some say its just a destiny clone while taking lots of ideas from mass effect 3...thats cool, I loved destiny and still love mass effect 3 to this day a decade after it was released, so thats not an issue fer me. No, its not new but its a very good clone...one that could be just as entertaining as both destiny and me3, although with over 9k hours on me3 anthem has some catching up to do. Point being I like games like this so calling it a destiny clone is more a selling point to me than a criticism...how ironic the haterz have sold the game to a lifelong cynic.
So far my cynicism has been proved wrong...something which doesnt happen often. That in itself is enough of a novelty to perk my interest in something. The background lore is very complex, still catching upto that aspect but hey its only been two days...but Im hooked now so the damage is already done ^
I'm glad you're enjoying this. It's what I've been saying grom the start. The game has issues and so I can't recommend it with clear conscience. But everybody I know who started playing it is hooked.
The game is highly addictive. As it should, of course, being a loot'n'shooter by heart. The gameplay feels awesome. And I'm even enjoying the story.
So I guess... Welcome, Lancer.
Strong alone, stronger together!
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verminstar
Banned
I'm glad you're enjoying this. It's what I've been saying grom the start. The game has issues and so I can't recommend it with clear conscience. But everybody I know who started playing it is hooked.
The game is highly addictive. As it should, of course, being a loot'n'shooter by heart. The gameplay feels awesome. And I'm even enjoying the story.
So I guess... Welcome, Lancer.
Strong alone, stronger together!
I made a mistake, I judged it on the beta which wasnt really fair in hindsight...players get lambasted fer doing the same thing here so Im guilty as charged. I take back my earlier doom and gloom comment if I could.
I just logged in fer an hour cos it occured to me I havent really done much freeplay...got a bit carried away with the initial missions and basically just getting used to the controls and flying. The flying part I love...takes some skill to stay airborne fer long periods of time, from steep diving to flying through waterfalls or skimming the surface of a river to cool down. Looks like a novelty item but its actually like a minigame in itself and can be very useful once ye learn how to use it in combat.
Ive unlocked a second javelin but find myself still loving the ranger which was my first choice. I unlocked the big colossus because Ive always liked point blank melee style fighting, and again assumed the tank would be the best...again I assumed wrongly and I should have known better. In me3 fer example, I enjoyed using the N7 vanguard fer up close and personal stuff which was, in reality, a glass cannon. Stats wise the N7 was one the weakest characters which relied heavily on powerful biotics and speed...health wise it was paper thin. Lotta guys used the geth juggernaut to farm platinums...I couldnt even survive a gold as a geth but farmed them with weaker characters.
Its a little detail but one that matters...to me anyway. Bigger is not always best, a common enough mantra in hundreds of games, elite notwithstanding. It matters cos missions will see variety instead of using whatever meta charcter exists...nothing as bad as playing with 4 juggernauts after all...doesnt really catch the moment.
Ive completed my first public event...alone. Felt good cos it was one helluva fight that really tested my limits...good practice fer what comes later methinks. The loot Im getting is still common and uncommon at best, but Im getting there.
I play by one golden rule...if I start a new game and Im still playing after 3 days then chances are I like it and its already worth the money.
Strong alone, stronger together freelancer ^