So while FDEV are not saints here and as Mike said, they've lost a lot of trust and good faith, the community is also to blame for the current situation - or at least part of it.
Some of the community shares some of the blame.
So while FDEV are not saints here and as Mike said, they've lost a lot of trust and good faith, the community is also to blame for the current situation - or at least part of it.
It really is a bit of both.
I suspect FDEV would perhaps be more open in their communications, if not for the community members that keep insulting them and keep throwing tantrums on the forums and social media.
On the other hand what Mike said is also a valid point. Beyond was advertised as a year of free updates, to expand upon the existing features and fix some of the longer term bugs, because they realised the game needs that badly and charging money for it would be unfair to customers. Or something along these lines, I can't find the exact words being used. But yeah, my impression also is that it was sold to us as a kind of an apology for what happened with Horizons season.
Unfortunately, we all know how it ended. Plus the fact that IMO a lot of the stuff was not "expanding upon existing", but instead adding more content, much of which was either at the infamous placeholder state or bugged as hell. Keeping tight-lipped didn't help the situation, and then cutting some of the things that A LOT of the players were eagerly waiting for at the very last minute was another unfortunate move, that has only escalated the frustration of the community.
However some of the reactions within the said community didn't really help at all.
So while FDEV are not saints here and as Mike said, they've lost a lot of trust and good faith, the community is also to blame for the current situation - or at least part of it.
Of course this is just like my opinion man.
Edit: and sorry but i cannot accept that the company is not sharing with all of us info of the development proccess, because of some peoples insults. Sorry but its the most silly thing i have never heard. First of all its not fair to punish everyone for the sake of the few, and second, if some people are insulting then ban or delete posts, including me. I for one believe that this situation pretty much is very convinient for them to justify their crappy communication.
Constructive criticism.
Don't you think if they had any confidence in what was coming in 18 months that they would advertise it proudly, 'We know it's a long time to wait, but the new era is going to feature atmospheric landings, gas giants and some limited walking area's all with new gameplay and an enhanced engine."
Boy, this forum would have been different this last weekend! Everyone praising Fdev for the fantastic news and the balls to be honest about how long it would take. But now, who even believes they've started on this brave new world? I don't.
I'd suggest that if you don't enjoy ED as it is now, you should probably just move on.
FD's track record of poor and often confusing, misleading, and even often later reversed communications, not to mention questionable decisions that often lead to community rages, is legendary. Anyone who isn't aware of this simply hasn't been around very long.
And NO - it's not the Community's fault.
I enjoy playing ED. Despite the questionable design twists and turns often spending time and energy into things either poorly done or of no interest to myself or other players, ED has made progress and is still the best option in the genre. There may be some competitors trying to gain ground, but I don't yet see a better option that tempts me to "jump ship" yet.
The 2020 update is more of a communication to lower expectations and defuse unwarranted anticipation, rather than generate enthusiasm.
We don't even have anything but raw speculation regarding content - so basically it's a non-announcement other than "don't expect anything major for more than a year."
If anything this should be looked at as major encouragement.
For the competition
If competitors can't catch up given a hiatus by FD, then ED is what we have.
Enjoy what we have. It's better than complaining about what we don't have. You'll sleep better.
Apart from the fact it's been company policy since like forever?
There has been one exception actually, between the kickstarter and game release there were 'some' sneak peeks. These took the form of design element screenshots with no explanation with them and I think that's the sort of content people want between now and 4.0. The situation is different now though, we're already familiar with ED's aesthetic and now the game is on, similar screenies are actually spoilers.
Given the lead time to 4.0 (about 18 months?) I don't think now is the time to start giving UI peeks or even gameplay ones, partly because commercially FDev are bound to want to build interest towards the release date, and it's way way early for that. Releasing gameplay footage would probably cause the usual biowaste storm of half baked opinions on what people have seen, hysterics that die down pretty quickly and then for it to dawn that there's still 17 months until 4.0 .. and FD have shot their bolt.
Not a good idea. FD's policy is tried, tested and a mature approach that does have their commercial interest at heart but in the long ter,m commercial success is better for the game than any temporary downs or transient ups in the steam charts will ever be.
Looks like that's precisely what they want to address:FD's track record of poor and often confusing, misleading, and even often later reversed communications, not to mention questionable decisions that often lead to community rages, is legendary. Anyone who isn't aware of this simply hasn't been around very long.
Er... I don't get where these are "lowering expectations":The 2020 update is more of a communication to lower expectations and defuse unwarranted anticipation, rather than generate enthusiasm.
QED.2/ If they don't give details, the details will get imagined and fantastic conjectures chock full of hyperbole rules. Then the forum goes completely nuts not getting any information.
Apart from the fact it's been company policy since like forever?
There has been one exception actually, between the kickstarter and game release there were 'some' sneak peeks. These took the form of design element screenshots with no explanation with them and I think that's the sort of content people want between now and 4.0. The situation is different now though, we're already familiar with ED's aesthetic and now the game is on, similar screenies are actually spoilers.
Given the lead time to 4.0 (about 18 months?) I don't think now is the time to start giving UI peeks or even gameplay ones, partly because commercially FDev are bound to want to build interest towards the release date, and it's way way early for that. Releasing gameplay footage would probably cause the usual biowaste storm of half baked opinions on what people have seen, hysterics that die down pretty quickly and then for it to dawn that there's still 17 months until 4.0 .. and FD have shot their bolt.
Not a good idea. FD's policy is tried, tested and a mature approach that does have their commercial interest at heart but in the long ter,m commercial success is better for the game than any temporary downs or transient ups in the steam charts will ever be.
So if that's the case then why does Frontier even mention the next DLC at the end of 2020?
I guess they are trying to avoid delaying each incremental patch with changes demanded by the user base, which is probably one of the reasons that the Horizons chapters were getting delayed all the time.
Apart from the fact it's been company policy since like forever?
There has been one exception actually, between the kickstarter and game release there were 'some' sneak peeks. These took the form of design element screenshots with no explanation with them and I think that's the sort of content people want between now and 4.0. The situation is different now though, we're already familiar with ED's aesthetic and now the game is on, similar screenies are actually spoilers.
Given the lead time to 4.0 (about 18 months?) I don't think now is the time to start giving UI peeks or even gameplay ones, partly because commercially FDev are bound to want to build interest towards the release date, and it's way way early for that. Releasing gameplay footage would probably cause the usual biowaste storm of half baked opinions on what people have seen, hysterics that die down pretty quickly and then for it to dawn that there's still 17 months until 4.0 .. and FD have shot their bolt.
Not a good idea. FD's policy is tried, tested and a mature approach that does have their commercial interest at heart but in the long ter,m commercial success is better for the game than any temporary downs or transient ups in the steam charts will ever be.
There were also plenty of sneak peeks in the lead up to Horizons. They made the newsletters actually worth reading.
Hm. What do you think an FD developer would think when reading this?
Carriers and Ice Planets were delayed because of reasonable design choices made later on. That's life. Features are not set in stone unless molded into contracts. Do you have such a contract? I doubt so.
Better be glad there will be an ED II at all, and LEPers will get it for free. FD are not obliged to anything here. Sue them to find out if you will.
Possibly you don't love the game very much or simply are an Angry Ghost.
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Dont care what they think , they just proved you can disregard every thing they say on expos , meets or what ever gaming events they are promoting new content .
Frontier has been lying to the community since the release of horizons. Or havent you noticed that after the horizons release suddenly the key people that interacted with the community suddenly when missing.
I do respect they remain the quality of q4 disapointing content.
Instead some rubbish bobble heads and paint jobs no one would even consider in buying or using .
I used the bobbleheads.
I used the bobbleheads.
So what were lies and who went missing?
Dont care what they think , they just proved you can disregard every thing they say on expos , meets or what ever gaming events they are promoting new content .
Frontier has been lying to the community since the release of horizons. Or havent you noticed that after the horizons release suddenly the key people that interacted with the community suddenly when missing.
I do respect they remain the quality of q4 disapointing content.