Some additional context to back up my early findings.

https://www.gradesaver.com/astrophil-and-stella

‘Astrophel and Stella 108 sonnets and 11 songs, "Sonnet cycles" were so named because they incorporated linked sonnets that generally described the progressive rise and fall of a love relationship. In other word’s an inferred plot.’

‘Sidney's sonnet sequence also exhibits clear references to Homeric epic, particularly Homer's Penelope.’

‘Some scholars have suggested that the 108 sonnets in the sequence represent the 108 suitors of Penelope, who play a game of striving to hit the Penelope stone in order to determine who can court her.’

This bit is interesting…

‘The 119 poems are also just one number short of the number of months Ulysses spent trying to return home to Penelope in The Odyssey. The structure of the sonnet sequence, falling one month short of achieving Ulysses's journey home, can be seen as an emphasis on Sidney's failure in his pursuit of his own Penelope.’

And here kind of backs up the theory we shouldn't take the text literally as romantic prose...

‘It is generally accepted that the Stella of the poems is Penelope Devereux, later Lady Rich, and that Astrophel (Astrophil) is Sidney himself.’ - 'Critics disagree, however, on whether Sidney's love for Penelope is real or merely literary.’

‘First of all the title is made up of one name of Greek origin and one name of Latin origin: a clear disjunction. The presence of the grammatical copula "and" suggests that the two are a couple (such as "Tristan and Isolde" or "Romeo and Juliet"), which readers immediately realize is not the case. Even the names themselves, meaning "star-lover" and "star," describes a separation between the two: there will always be distance between the stars and those who love them.’

Scheria was where Ulysses was prior to returning home, but Scheria is a mythical location not actual (a place that isn't a place)?
 
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See, that's what I was asking about when some random fellow told me you all have no ideas or clues...

Being late to the party, I wonder if I'll make it 6 million and ONE ideas, or if I'll just rehash old ideas as I embark on a little detective work of my own... I suppose I can eventually make my way through these 6000+ posts, especially if I skip past all the weird "One-eye Thor shall lead the way" ideas [haha]
Jorki knows his stuff. He didn’t say we have no ideas, he said we have no idea and it was in terms of the question asked.

We have loads of ideas! But when it comes to the question of how we’re actually supposed to find it, i.e. what FD has in mind, then yeah the honest answer is that we have no idea, i.e. we don’t know in any factual manner! (Except that it’s a journey everyone has to travel for themselves. Whatever that means in the context!) :D
 
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Funny thing is it refers Astrophil as a princess and in plain english then Prince and describes Spiralling Stars without using any Latin/Greek phrases. Considering the book itself would of been pronounced in a different native language of the writer.

I would like to add that the word Spiralling Stars are a certain class of star Wolf-Rayet Star and not all spiral there are some that do.

The biggest highlighted discovery of a spiralling star is WR-104

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WR_104

Edit:

Looking through edsm there aren't many Wolf-Rayet Stars on the system there are actually very few in the galaxy that are currently discovered.

Edit Went to Gliese 293 looking for anything interesting ran into a Eagle which had one weird title called Private Security it was yellow and wasn't based on the system itself before it disappeared either completely stop out of super cruise or jumped.

Edit 2: Found a interesting Nav Beacon 26.6 LS away from the star Gliese 293 B which is funny how far that it is compared to most Nav Beacons but it just could be the fact on how huge the star is.

With all respect, I don’t see any relations between these two and I think people are disregarding the context. Those ideas have lost their credibility because they were similar to that children’s book. Even though some thought the writer hid clues in his book, noone has found Raxxla using those clues.
 
Hey,
im not much into the search for Raxxla,
just read you cheack systems and im in Eoch Pruae KY-I d9-2322 rigth now.. was on my way from colonia to sag A
VSS all, nothing special to see here. Im start mapping all Moons..

Something else i should to?
After that i will go to Wepua MV-Y d3028

Thanks for checking, CMDR Nemac! Sorry I missed your post until now. Did you find anything at Wepua MV-Y d3028?
 
Indeed. But what I mean is that almost every culture has some kind of myth/legend/history which can be related to ED "clues".
Are we going to try every one we know or are we presuming that the FD story-tellers put some of their preferences in it?
Then the "MB being fan of Norse, Lovecraft, etc.." thing. But he left, so.. ? Do we know DB's preferences in that matter ?

I dont expect FD will dare to hold on ANY religious reference. I prefer Nordic omens because of weird behavior of Galaxy Map (could be a bug).
As for Astrophil and Spiralling Stars is it only as a bait like "Attention explorers, Raxxla is a wormhole!". When the time come, Raxxla will be activated and we will receive some tiny hints - visuals like tourist beacon message "There be Raxxla!" or Ram Tah decoding message hidden in an audio signal and naming nearby system.

Kinda like hidden message here (disclaimer - what is seen cannot be unseen):
[video=youtube;IwLSrNu1ppI]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IwLSrNu1ppI[/video]
With respect for CMDR Panpiper's work
 
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If anyone is interested to join, I’m gonna intensify my search for TDW system within 100ly of Sol. It’s a lot of systems to cover by me onsies but I have, what I think, is good reason to do so.
As mentioned before our current FSD tech is quite new, only coming into use around 3300. MB said in an interview with truthsayer that before this they were using ion drives etc to move about, so travel was quite limited distance wise from sol.
Furthermore, it struck me that the empire, back in the 2400’s moved to Achenar (140ly from sol) in an attempt to get away from the federation, figuring that would be more than far enough. So this gives us two things. A distance that at that time was considered to be quite far from the then bubble AND since they moved that also gives us abandoned star ports, which sounds awful familiar. So if 140ly was considered far from the bubble at the time I think it would be safe to say looking for an abandoned empire starport, now inhabited by TDW, within 100ly of sol is generous.
 
I'm currently importing the latest dump of stellar body info since my database is a year out of date.
I'm hoping that there's more good candidates of red stars w/ gas giants w/ 8 moons within appropriate distance to create the screenshot.

While that's going, I took 1 each of 8 goods (Lavian brandy, Waters of Shintara, HIP 7442 Wheat, terra mater blood bores, basic beer, wine, grain and 1 more thing I forget right now) and sold them at The Oracle @ Delphi in an Eagle.
Nothing happened, but I have 2-3 sets of more rare goods to try.
 
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Ive read, reread and read again Astrophil and Stella. I have come to the conclusion Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars needs to be revisited as a clue for the following reasons:

A) Astrophil is a dude so while he could be a princess in 2019 that wasnt possible back in the 1500s.

B)Astrophel is misspelled

C)The book name is 'Astrophil and Stella' not 'Astrophel and the spiralling stars'

D) Stella is singular and spiralling Stars is plural.

In order for there to be an actual connect between this line and the book you have to explain away these inconsistencies and to be honest thats going to be difficult.

I think the clue here is the simplest interpretation of this line

Princess ________ (A star lover) and the spiralling stars.

Princess Astronomers are out there, such as:

Princess Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen

Alternatively it could be referencing an actual childs book about an astronomer princess.


-Void
 
Ive read, reread and read again Astrophil and Stella. I have come to the conclusion Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars needs to be revisited as a clue for the following reasons:

A) Astrophil is a dude so while he could be a princess in 2019 that wasnt possible back in the 1500s.

B)Astrophel is misspelled

C)The book name is 'Astrophil and Stella' not 'Astrophel and the spiralling stars'

D) Stella is singular and spiralling Stars is plural.

In order for there to be an actual connect between this line and the book you have to explain away these inconsistencies and to be honest thats going to be difficult.

I think the clue here is the simplest interpretation of this line

Princess ________ (A star lover) and the spiralling stars.

Princess Astronomers are out there, such as:

Princess Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen

Alternatively it could be referencing an actual childs book about an astronomer princess.


-Void

It could be that Astrophel is being used just as a name and it’s meaning is the clue alone and not connected to the sonnets. But, it should be noted, that Astrophel vs Astrophil isn’t really an issue here. It was either or back when it was written, but was codified later by an editor as Astrophil officially for the sonnets. But Astrophel is technically equally valid.
 
Kinda like hidden message here (disclaimer - what is seen cannot be unseen):
With respect for CMDR Panpiper's work

I thought you might have supplied this link instead...
[video=youtube;_43knLIOT_g]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_43knLIOT_g&t=10745s[/video]

;)
 
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Over six THOUSAND posts in this thread and you have no ideas or clues? Well that's a sad commentary, LOL.
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Everything we know is on the first page of the thread, It’s precious little. Everything else is speculation in attempts to find an avenue of investigation which might lead to a solution/resolution.
 
Summary document updated up to post #6686 in this thread and #88 in Codex Picture thread.

CMDR Old Duck and CMDR Dr. Nagi, you may be interested to read this since it contains most of what people have already speculated about (Polaris, Triple Elite required, Dark Wheel faction, etc).

Thank you! This is exactly the kind of thing (based on description, I haven't gone there yet) I was looking for.

If anyone is interested to join, I’m gonna intensify my search for TDW system within 100ly of Sol. It’s a lot of systems to cover by me onsies but I have, what I think, is good reason to do so.
As mentioned before our current FSD tech is quite new, only coming into use around 3300. MB said in an interview with truthsayer that before this they were using ion drives etc to move about, so travel was quite limited distance wise from sol.
Furthermore, it struck me that the empire, back in the 2400’s moved to Achenar (140ly from sol) in an attempt to get away from the federation, figuring that would be more than far enough. So this gives us two things. A distance that at that time was considered to be quite far from the then bubble AND since they moved that also gives us abandoned star ports, which sounds awful familiar. So if 140ly was considered far from the bubble at the time I think it would be safe to say looking for an abandoned empire starport, now inhabited by TDW, within 100ly of sol is generous.

Hey, that's what I'm doing :D

I'm starting at Sol and just visiting all the various systems around it with the purpose of scanning all the various unregistered beacons, crashed ships, tourist beacons, whatever, along with the 8th moon of any unnamed gas giant, just to see what there is to see. If nothing else, it'll be a fun road trip. Perhaps that's part of the personal journey - we have to scan all these clues ourselves IN THE GAME instead just reading it second-hand via the forums, and then TDW will contact us.

Speaking of TDW, I realized pretty quickly that I'm going to be "bending" the law and encountering less-than-friendly forces during this little jaunt, so my explorer Dolphin won't do. I whipped up an "exploration" Vulture with some thick skin and teeth, called her "The Dark Wheel" with TDW as the callsign, just for fun (supposedly impersonating them gets their attention). Sadly I'm stuck in Solo on PS4, so we probably won't cross paths, but we can compare notes!
 
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Indeed. But what I mean is that almost every culture has some kind of myth/legend/history which can be related to ED "clues".
Are we going to try every one we know or are we presuming that the FD story-tellers put some of their preferences in it?
Then the "MB being fan of Norse, Lovecraft, etc.." thing. But he left, so.. ? Do we know DB's preferences in that matter ?

This is the problem I have with the mythological approach. The ED universe is vast, so not surprisingly FD have used mythology, real people/places, etc as the source for place names. Now that does not indicate the myths are at all relevant. We know that Raxxla has been in-game since the start; anything related to the Codex is new, it might be additional information/hints or it may be obfuscation.
 
I think the personal journey thing is still valid. The Codex points us to get personal in the way of being invited by TDW.
No brute force will do it. Now, the question is how to actually attract their attention ?

Except I have a vague recollection of DB or MB saying that it was possible that someone might find it by accident. Hence any personal journey (which may be Elite ranking, providing access to SD, but in the original game there was only combat Elite. There might also be some clues that are not obvious, e.g. NPC names) might be the planned way to find it, but there might be other ways.
 
Thank you! This is exactly the kind of thing (based on description, I haven't gone there yet) I was looking for.



Hey, that's what I'm doing :D

I'm starting at Sol and just visiting all the various systems around it with the purpose of scanning all the various unregistered beacons, crashed ships, tourist beacons, whatever, along with the 8th moon of any unnamed gas giant, just to see what there is to see. If nothing else, it'll be a fun road trip. Perhaps that's part of the personal journey - we have to scan all these clues ourselves IN THE GAME instead just reading it second-hand via the forums, and then TDW will contact us.

Speaking of TDW, I realized pretty quickly that I'm going to be "bending" the law and encountering less-than-friendly forces during this little jaunt, so my explorer Dolphin won't do. I whipped up an "exploration" Vulture with some thick skin and teeth, called her "The Dark Wheel" with TDW as the callsign, just for fun (supposedly impersonating them gets their attention). Sadly I'm stuck in Solo on PS4, so we probably won't cross paths, but we can compare notes!

Oh for sure yeah, if I come across anything of note I’ll be sure to chime in. Or if you’re mentioning of going somewhere I’ve checked allready I’ll let ya know. What I’m doing is setting my route to hop only Stars I’ve not visited, and plot economy courses (that way 100ly takes like 15 jumps) from sol to 100ly out. Then turn around and repeat.
 
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Summary document updated up to post #6686 in this thread and #88 in Codex Picture thread.

CMDR Old Duck and CMDR Dr. Nagi, you may be interested to read this since it contains most of what people have already speculated about (Polaris, Triple Elite required, Dark Wheel faction, etc).

Gratitude expressed in previous post. I have since given this a quick look-over, and now my head hurts! :O
 
Ive read, reread and read again Astrophil and Stella. I have come to the conclusion Princess Astrophel and the Spiralling Stars needs to be revisited as a clue for the following reasons:

A) Astrophil is a dude so while he could be a princess in 2019 that wasnt possible back in the 1500s.

B)Astrophel is misspelled

C)The book name is 'Astrophil and Stella' not 'Astrophel and the spiralling stars'

D) Stella is singular and spiralling Stars is plural.

In order for there to be an actual connect between this line and the book you have to explain away these inconsistencies and to be honest thats going to be difficult.

I think the clue here is the simplest interpretation of this line

Princess ________ (A star lover) and the spiralling stars.

Princess Astronomers are out there, such as:

Princess Charlotte of Saxe-Meiningen

Alternatively it could be referencing an actual childs book about an astronomer princess.


-Void

I think there are significant problems with the hypothesis that Philip Sidney's “Astrophil and Stella” sonnets relates to “Princess Astrophel and Spiralling Stars” in the Codex reference.

I suspect this “clue” has been overthought & wondered about the etymology. “Phil” as either a prefix or suffix implies having an attraction or affinity ( https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/-phil-), while “astro” means “relating to stars or celestial objects”. So “Astrophil” means having an attraction to stars &/or celestial objects. I think the “spiralling stars” is relevant. “Phel” is uncommon in English, but might derive from the Celtic, meaning “beauty”, which could imply “beautiful star”. Omphalos means the centre or hub of something, & refers to a hollow conical stone regarded by the ancient greeks as being the centre of things. So the Omphalos Rift (“described as a gateway or tunnel through which a parallel universe can be accessed”, which ties in with the Raxxla lore as a gateway to other universes) is a Rift related to something conical. It all sounds to me reminiscent of a Black Hole, which may have stars spiralling around it, the cone is the matter spiralling & falling into the event horizon. There is a theory that a Black Hole in one universe may be a White Hole in another and so the BH represents a Rift. Black Holes have, I believe, been in-game from the outset.

so I am pondering the hypothesis that Raxxla is a black hole that could transport a ship to another universe, though this might be a one-way trip, or the parallel universe might be very limited in scope. So that might be what Raxxla is, don’t have a clue where it is...
 
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