The Bubble.
The Bubble is on fire.
We don’t need no water, let the ************ burn,
Burn, ************ burn.
The Bubble is on fire.
We don’t need no water, let the ************ burn,
Burn, ************ burn.
So, The Bubble Is Burning, And...
- Thread starter Ralph Vargr
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The Bubble.
The Bubble is on fire.
We don’t need no water, let the ************ burn,
Burn, ************ burn.
That was the song that came (ironically) to my mind too
Good point. After all, life is fair and we all know that warfare doesn’t have any consequences!
Indeed, it WOULD be annoying. Why don’t you get in there and fight! Or spread your stuff around. Don’t you know there’s a war on???
You'd be forgiven for thinking one wasn't on... based on how the galaxy acts on a day to day basis.
Lets take the current amount of activity, the currently damaged & repairing systems & consider those not (yet) affected. What should they be doing?
I'd like to see more NPC trader activity and a significant change in trade route trends that reflects the high, specific demand this BGS change has.
I'd like to see persistent news articles in supplying stations that act as counterparts to the (very useful) pinned "Emergency Commodities Needed" message in damaged & repairing stations.
I'd like to be able to pre-empt a strike in a system I'm interested in by bolstering supplies, or reinforcing defences etc so that if it is attacked (or attacked again) the repair list won't be so high.
It may be that some or all of these things are already in place & I'm just not noticing. What change would you like to see in how the galaxy acts on a day-to-day basis?
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I think they will burn until 2020, when the new updates comes out.
That's part of the reasons why AX activities feels quite dead in open, especially when AXI is outside of the bubble (maybe they don't engage against thargoids in open either but that's that).
I as a Far God cultist, have to use a specialized loadout if I want to take down an AX vessle before it escapes. And many of them did manage to escape. If a ship can survive a baslisk swarms kamikaze attack, it can survive most pvp encounter.
same
I think it took me 6 runs but the Threat 3 only has two scouts. I tried one of the big ones in a Threat 5 but could finish him off.
Actually my biggest disappointment was seeing someone who I just can't stand from the forums in-game (pledged to an opposing power even), but I only had AX weapons.
"o7 to CMDR [Expletive Deleted]. Carry on"
Yeah but even when you care, you can't realistically oppose.
When our sandcastles have been kicked over, it's because a group of someones has taken a personal thing against us.
And a punch up is a good thing.
But this is mechanical. No one is plotting against us specifically.
What is an AX CZ and why hasn't it spawned in the system I care about?
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There should be an incentive to repair the starports, so that not only some samaritans do it, but a broad number of CMDRs.
Make missions count, make special "deliver repair commodities missions", make it more obvious what is needed and how much you affect it,
make it obvious if salvage missions make a difference, make it obvious in supercruise there is a starport under repair.
Make these nonsensical C&P shenanigans go away (seriously Mr. flight operator, I just rescued your wife and kids of this starport and you give me a fine for loitering? To the airlock...)
There are so many options to make this better with imho little effort, but none is made, not even the most glaring bug (loss of commodities) is fixed.
For me, that means FD
- doesn't care or
- doesn't want the starports repaired or
- isn't able to fix it
I'm not sure which one I'd chose if I had to...
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They only show up in Incursion states, so the Thargoids have to destroy a starport first.
On the scale of the galaxy, there's not a war on. I imagine to most people it's like hurricanes in Florida - if you don't live in Florida, it's something you read about on the news but you don't step up your own hurricane preparations in the UK, or Estonia, or South Africa.
This is how I would fix it...
INCURSION STATE:
System with incursion states can display in the mission board of the stations the status of the incursion so you are aware of your progress.
During the incursion state, the target station has few thargoids scouts attacking in real time both station and departing ships so you can support and defend.
ATTACKED STATION:
If players fail and the incursion succeeds the station gets attacked by Interceptors and you can see the attack in real time and eventually defend (wings of players could make the difference if enough interceptors are destroyed).
STATION EVACUATION:
If Thargoids win then the station takes fire and you help to evacuate (current attacked stations gameplay), plus a few number of scouts still hanging around the burning station and attacking the ships (a few number to make the show and to add some challenge, not a real threat).
REPAIR STATION:
This should be a chained mission available from the mission board. You are given a list of missions with a total of:
- Deliver 3000 tons of commodities
- Transport 1000 workers, 250 doctors and 250 soldiers
- Defend hauling vessels by destroying 100 Thargoid scouts in the system USS's.
The time it takes to repair the mission depends on the number of players that complete these missions:
0 players: it takes 6 months to repair the station
1-10 players: 1 month
11-100 players: 3 weeks
101-1000 players: 2 weeks
> 1000: 1 week
So the station in the end gets repaired anyway. Yes because the federation got thousands of NPC pilots and enterprises so it makes sense that things happens in the background anyway.
The players contribution helps to reduce the repair time.
INCURSION STATE:
System with incursion states can display in the mission board of the stations the status of the incursion so you are aware of your progress.
During the incursion state, the target station has few thargoids scouts attacking in real time both station and departing ships so you can support and defend.
ATTACKED STATION:
If players fail and the incursion succeeds the station gets attacked by Interceptors and you can see the attack in real time and eventually defend (wings of players could make the difference if enough interceptors are destroyed).
STATION EVACUATION:
If Thargoids win then the station takes fire and you help to evacuate (current attacked stations gameplay), plus a few number of scouts still hanging around the burning station and attacking the ships (a few number to make the show and to add some challenge, not a real threat).
REPAIR STATION:
This should be a chained mission available from the mission board. You are given a list of missions with a total of:
- Deliver 3000 tons of commodities
- Transport 1000 workers, 250 doctors and 250 soldiers
- Defend hauling vessels by destroying 100 Thargoid scouts in the system USS's.
The time it takes to repair the mission depends on the number of players that complete these missions:
0 players: it takes 6 months to repair the station
1-10 players: 1 month
11-100 players: 3 weeks
101-1000 players: 2 weeks
> 1000: 1 week
So the station in the end gets repaired anyway. Yes because the federation got thousands of NPC pilots and enterprises so it makes sense that things happens in the background anyway.
The players contribution helps to reduce the repair time.
Since you asked
https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showt...ond-to-Thargoids-better?p=7477535#post7477535
tl;dr Treat pre-incursion/incursion/stations under repair just like any other BGS occurrance, and have systems within ~20Ly generate missions *which actually contribute to resolving the situation*. The BGS already does this for famine states (e.g agricultural economies within 20LY will have way more missions to deliver food to a faction in famine)
This takes the amount of populated systems with direct reaction to the Thargoids from 0.0025% up to 10% for 20Ly, or 25-33% for a 30LY radius.
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to the info: for some time there are apparently no systems with famine status.
so the bugs have managed to defeat the hunger.
so the bugs have managed to defeat the hunger.
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They're comestible
Permanent is temporary, and temporary is permanent.
They do say that eating bugs will allow us to defeat world hunger - maybe Soylent isn't people, it's tasty tasty Thargoid snacks...
