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Basically the development of this game has been halved since 2016: I still remember when Fd were working on Horizon expansion and they didn't fear anything to shows us how and what they were doing.

if you have something to discuss of course...

Why? I've already pointed out that you are factually wrong. Do I need to share the links to their announcement streams? You could easily check yourself.
 
FDEV didn't show anything from Horizons up until a few months before release.

Ummm. Wrong. They showed the Hell0me thing almost 15 months before it was actually released. And they most certainly talked-up Horizons and showed off lots of Buggy video many months before release especially in the Aug timeframe that year - but YOU don't remember which is fine I guess... You are certainty one of the most prolific posters that tries to rewrite history to fit YOUR narrative...
 
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FDev have stated pretty clearly that the 'New Era' DLC will be an 'in-game' release, not a new title. So both y'all's thinking must have a kink in it somewhere ;)

Right, trying to twist the wording by Will for a new ED2 entity is out of left field [wacko].The wording specifically said it was a DLC to improve the game as the overall new era & milestones coming, presumably as part of the 10-year plan goal. It will be in a similar vein to No Man's Sky: Next except ED was already an excellent and improved game up to now instead of a misinformed marketing debacle NMS was on release. Even if much of the game was revamped, there's no sign it won't be a seamless transfer of player assets and game progress no matter if it looks like a future generation ED2 in 2020.

Why wouldn't a company take a measured punt on this proposition?:
Good links to the facts. Why wouldn't there be investment on ED where there is future bankable potential as there are still new generations and untapped player segments who still have no idea of the massive scale spacesim world ED has accomplished. When spacelegs and atmospherics arrive, man there will be a stampeding of gamers wanting to try ED as the real meat of a working outer and inner spacesim, that other publishers and competitors only pretended to achieve. And fortunately ED's server infrastructure continues to be worked on (as there were job positions listed early last year to work on the server coding for ED as well as mentioned work done).
 
Ummm. Wrong. They showed the Hell0me thing almost 15 months before it was actually released. And they most certainly talked-up Horizons and showed off lots of Buggy video many months before release especially in the Aug timeframe that year - but YOU don't remember which is fine I guess... You are certainty one of the most prolific posters that tries to rewrite history to fit YOUR narrative...

Horizons was only announced 4 months before release and they only showed a teaser trailer.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/172167-ANNOUNCING-ELITE-DANGEROUS-HORIZONS

In the months after that they shared a few short videos, screenshots and live streams. I expect the same will happen with the 2020 update.

Stop creating alternative facts and don't accuse me of rewriting history when it's YOU who is doing it.
 
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Horizons was only announced 4 months before release and they only showed a teaser trailer.

https://forums.frontier.co.uk/showthread.php/172167-ANNOUNCING-ELITE-DANGEROUS-HORIZONS

In the months after that they shared a few short videos, screenshots and live streams. I expect the same will happen with the 2020 update.

Stop creating alternative facts and don't accuse me of rewriting history when it's YOU who is doing it.

Come on now, you're not supposed to say what actually happened AND back it up with sources - that spoils the doom narrative :D
 
Sadly I`m not surprised, and I`m far away from being happy about being right. Despite not playing I still see Elite Dangerous as one of a kind with a potential of dominating space game market. And I really really would love to see the game being around for years in the future. But if things will keep like now, more folks will loose interest and leave. Hope FD will also see the massive potential that they have in their hands.
 
Sadly I`m not surprised, and I`m far away from being happy about being right. Despite not playing I still see Elite Dangerous as one of a kind with a potential of dominating space game market. And I really really would love to see the game being around for years in the future. But if things will keep like now, more folks will loose interest and leave. Hope FD will also see the massive potential that they have in their hands.

That doesn't make much sense, shouldn't you be happy that they are dedicating two years of 100 people to the next big Elite expansion and also release content updates in between?

The only sad part is that we have to wait for so long, but unless we want the expansion to become worse there is not much anyone could do about it.
 
they are dedicating two years of 100 people to the next big Elite expansion and also release content updates in between?

Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha.

Hahahahahahaa.


I mean, it's a compelling argument. But I'm gonna go with...


PixelBandits said:
Regarding staffing, It really can't be stressed enough. I am lucky enough to be an ambassador for both JWE and ED and see a lot of people saying that one development is taking away from the other but this couldn't be further form the mark. the elite team is sizable, and still growing through an already expansive office (where they are very good at hiding their screens!) (source)

For the record, yes, the numbers of people working JUST on ED are what they say, their other games were on other floors and no, jobs like HR and finance etc staff weren't part of that number,.It was all people actively working on Elite. Compared to my last visit, they arent kidding when they say the team has never been bigger.

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I can completely echo what others have said about the staffing levels. There is half a floor, exclusive to ED. I can also confirm that many of them came to say hi and were genuinely interested in our reactions. (source)

The Elite Dangerous devroom has 100 people (+- 5) for gameplay/content creation; this excludes QA, audio recording, trailer team, website, etc who were in a different area.

ObsidianAnt said:
We did get to see the floor for Elite, and it's pretty much an entire half a floor is dedicated just to Elite developers.... there's that many desks... They're dedicated to Elite Dangerous, at least that's what we were told. Got no reason personally to doubt them. It doesn't include QA testers. Not HR, nothing like that. (source)


That and it just being a really dumb idea for a listed company to lie about a project's resourcing ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
 
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That doesn't make much sense, shouldn't you be happy that they are dedicating two years of 100 people to the next big Elite expansion and also release content updates in between?

The only sad part is that we have to wait for so long, but unless we want the expansion to become worse there is not much anyone could do about it.
They spent two years of 100 people on Horizons. I think all in all Horizons turned out pretty bad and fell way short of what it was supposed to be. They either need four years, 200 people, or 100 different people to deliver something worth waiting for.
 
Im over it now who cares. It doesn't really matter when or what they do looking forward to it.

From experience just back up 3 steps, forget that frontier developments exists and you can go back to enjoying the game.

EDIT: For what its worth im guessing frontier are flexible in terms of moving developers around between projects, even if on a temporary basis. They have the advantage of being able to do that from sharing the same engine and the output simply doesn't match even a wild guess at what people can do without assuming negative things. So they must go crunch on other projects as needed. Simple as that.
 
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They spent two years of 100 people on Horizons. I think all in all Horizons turned out pretty bad and fell way short of what it was supposed to be. They either need four years, 200 people, or 100 different people to deliver something worth waiting for.

That's what I find worrying. If we consider the past 2-3yrs, why would something released in another 2yrs be fundamentally better/different?

I of course hope for a fundamental change in ethos and desire to raise the bar for this new development, but going by the past 2-3yrs there's not much to support that hope :(
 
Discuss this:

Basically the development of this game has been halved since 2016: I still remember when Fd were working on Horizon expansion and they didn't fear anything to shows us how and what they were doing.

if you have something to discuss of course...

You want me to discuss something you pulled out of your postierier?

I'll pass thanks.

If you want a discusson, please use those pesky little things called facts.
 
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