Was the Codex entry about Dark wheel altered with 8th moon info at some point, or it was the same from the beta?
I am curios on urban myth about leaked tweet from the dev about 8th moon.

On the other hand, if some "people's journalist" would publish to billions of its followers true infos about my hidden station and organization, I would take steps to invalidate that info. If the infos are false, I would encourage them.
 
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Was the Codex entry about Dark wheel altered with 8th moon info at some point, or it was the same from the beta?

The codex was only added a few months ago, it wasn't in beta. FDev has barely talked about Raxxla before, except to say they think the way to get to it is "a tiny bit obvious".
 
Hello all....
Hope this is the right kind of Tin hat colony... :)
i have along shot theory about an ED puzzle solution & location... just need some more info... thanks

The riddle from Tionisla Orbital Graveyard....
Given the details; "year 3302" or before, a "Cobra Mklll" & the Name "Rebecca" i am looking for a common theme....

Rebecca died or faked her death on the way to Tionisla.... Is this before 3302 or after and could this be her ship.. ?

If Rebecca had something to hide not in the Form-rift... Given the complex of the puzzle hopefully a big secret... Any ideas what that would be & sort of location...???

If by chance the message was intended for "Rebecca" for her only... Then " Tionisla Graveyard"... "Cobra mklll" and "Secret location" have many things in common.... what would interest "Rebecca"..?

Cheers Stu
 
All this Greek mythology people are spewing... to date has there been a puzzle of ED that was solved by knowledge of Greek mythology? Thargoid Sensor, Probe, Link, Data and Maps all unraveled with math and science, stop trying to push Greek myths.

It's a bit early for science. There are no numbers to calculate or objects to investigate. We have nothing to listen to, nothing that point anywhere and no maps.

Brute force is the only alternative to the myths.
 
That's a valid point. The codex entries could be 100% garbage.

However, I think it's safe to assign all knowledge/speculation about Raxxla with a confidence score based on how close to "official statement" it is.

David Braben telling Drew Wager (presumably a friend) that Raxxla is "definitely in the game and we know where it is" = 100% confidence (assuming DB & DW aren't known liars/trolls, and he was telling DW this on purpose knowing he'd tell others as a master trolling plan)

The other official statements made by FDev on the topic = 100% also.

Now the codex... we know that at one point, FDev considered clues to Raxxla to be a "tiny bit obvious", and yet nobody has found anything that seemed to point in a definite direction in like 5 years.
If FDev wanted to continue their policy of being unhelpful, they could just have not said anything. There was no reason to add Raxxla/TDW entries to the codex.

The only reason to mention any specific names, people, places or topics is either;
  • To give hints to the people searching, because they are ready for it to be found soon
  • More trolling at their own fans/customers expense
  • Hoping fans get distracted by this search for a nonexistent thing in hopes they will continue playing more until FDev can come out with some actual compelling content to distract them

When we ask "what could cause FDev to create these codex entries", this is the differental diagnosis. We can assign probabilities to these possibilities.
  • Distracting fans: 10% chance - FDev seems content to slowly add minor features to the game, and then yearly or so release a big feature. By now their fans expect this. They don't really have subscribers to keep happy and they don't seem to be trying to attract new casual markets
  • Trolling - 5% Ok, I don't think they seem like the kind of company to purposefully troll customers, they're a business after all, but I'll give it 5% anyway
  • Giving hints - 85% The remainder

So now I think the codex is 85% chance meant as a hint.
Assuming they don't want only English-speaking players to find Raxxla, we can see what information in the codex is conserved across translations.
For each thing, you can assign a chance based on how likely it is that you think it's a hint. If there's any other reason you can think of for including this element, try to guess what the odds are that it was chosen deliberately vs randomly.

  • The toast (more or less) - My guess is 99% hint, never been in lore before, oddly specific concepts are mentioned, vague but has hints of a deeper meaning
  • Princess Astrophel and the Spiraling Stars - 99%, again- why mention this story otherwise?
  • Art & Cora Tornqvist - I'd give it like 50% that these names are hints, it's plausible that they just made up a random name to tell the story of the 1st mention of raxxla
  • Atlantis, El Dorado, Prester John - I'd say like 25% hint, good chance it's just to add filler to the codex entry
  • Fernweh - I'd say like 75%, this is a shady AF word to use and it's translated as-is, quoted, into all other languages including German
  • The Dark Wheel logo & codex picture - Logo is like 99% hint, codex pic 60% since they could have just photoshopped some visual elements together for a pic, like the menu
  • Stated facts about Raxxla: it's a celestial body, etc - 99% hint, codex seems really definite
  • Stated facts about the dark wheel, getting invited, 8th moon of a gas giant - Either 99% hint, or the codex is 100% trolling

But for me, it gets less reliable the farther out you go.
The poem "Astrophel and Stella"? Well that's based on a name similarity to a possible hint, and it's only accessible in 1 language really. I'd give it 50% tops.
Leaping from vague descriptions of someone's face in the poem to astronomical features? Well, at best like 10% of the poem is a clue, and interpreting it correctly is like another 10% chance.
So poem analysis seems risky: 10% * 10% * 50% * 99% * 80%= 0.4% chance

Etc. I mean, assuming Raxxla is out there, you can always just explore aimlessly without purpose, like a vagabond, or you can use the codex for inspiration on places to go.

Repped. Good to see some logic applied to the problem instead of fanciful mythology!
though might take issue with some of your estimates, think they’re a little on the high side
but then, I’m an old sceptic :rolleyes:
 
I'm sure someone has made this observation but the home base of TDW is on the 8th moon of an unnamed gas giant in Shinrarta Dezhra, AB 2. Of course SD can only be reached after following your own path to Elite...

I'm working on my rep with TDW and I've made it to friendly. As I approached their moon, TDW contacted me with a mission. It's a pretty standard type mission but it is a chain mission. I can't take the second piece because I'm not friendly with the next mission giver. The second mission is piracy.

SD system has been searched extensively, especially since the Codex arrived. There is no reason to believe TDW have anything to do with any celestial body within it (other than Jameson Orbital)
 
Hello all....
Hope this is the right kind of Tin hat colony... :)
i have along shot theory about an ED puzzle solution & location... just need some more info... thanks

The riddle from Tionisla Orbital Graveyard....
Given the details; "year 3302" or before, a "Cobra Mklll" & the Name "Rebecca" i am looking for a common theme....

Rebecca died or faked her death on the way to Tionisla.... Is this before 3302 or after and could this be her ship.. ?

If Rebecca had something to hide not in the Form-rift... Given the complex of the puzzle hopefully a big secret... Any ideas what that would be & sort of location...???

If by chance the message was intended for "Rebecca" for her only... Then " Tionisla Graveyard"... "Cobra mklll" and "Secret location" have many things in common.... what would interest "Rebecca"..?

Cheers Stu

This is related to Drew Wagar’s Salomé character and storyline. Read his two FD-sponsored books Elite Reclamation and Elite Premonition (in that order).
 
Frontier have a business to run and trolling your customers is bad for profits..

I expect they feel our frustration, and theirs too - if you set a puzzle and everyone misses the 'obvious' clue, that will drive them nuts.

Art and Cora - the codex is short and thats a large paragraph. There is a journalist in Galnet call Tornquist, and a Cora runs the palin institute. Also the year is quite significant in the ED timeline, as was Tau Ceti in the ED lore. Loads of info in that section. And their's Brown Beard's pirate stash idea..

It's crossed my mind that passenger missions might be a mechanism - people mentioned in the codex, like Lyta Crane (in DW codex) - do they ever appear and want flying somewhere interesting? Maybe if you hang around the right starports etc.

YB
 
Frontier have a business to run and trolling your customers is bad for profits..

So is leaving bad bugs in the game for over a year, yet here we are.... And one might argue that "trolling" is Frontier's speciality:

iu

That said, I don't think Raxxla and The Dark Wheel would be in the Codex unless there were at least something to find, even if it's a clue pointing towards future content.
 
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Partly out of curiosity but also for amusement, I bought a copy of "The Alien world: the complete illustrated guide" by Steven Eisler. Thats a pen name for Robert Holdstock (deceased btw..) . It's very - how can I put it? - of its time (published in 1980) . The pictures are awful and the text not much better.Thankfully it wasn't expensive :)

I know some people know this book , in fact some pictures have been borrowed from time to time to post here ..

In it is the very first reference to Raxxla - In fact there is a whole chapter devoted to the Oisir-Raxxla sector - a section of space dominated by Reptillian Aliens, the Oisir-Raxxlans. The sector is separated from the 'Human Sector' by "The Urgenirk Darks, a straggling line of vast black holes lined up along 40 million Aeons". There is a chapter on Talmor lenses (oh!- that's where that comes from!...) which in turn is related to the building of the pyramids on Earth and the inspiration of the gods Osiris and Ra. It describes how they found the world of Jodethum where they learnt the secrets of controlling time from the derelict civilization there. There are also the Sirens of Ivixor B and the tale of the great explorer Chesowaya Samarandara who is destroyed by them.

There is also a section in the Naranthu sector entitled 'The Tale of the Dark Wheel' - allegedly a myth of the 'Great Ship' that lives in the 'Dark Wheel', a galaxy named because 'it is shrouded in black clouds of intergalactic dust and gas' and the occupants are 'indisputably Human' who came from a generation ship that mis-jumped into their sector..

Now, of course, none of this is canon, but given its date of publication, it may have inspired DB & IB with some concepts - how did Mr Holdstock get the job of writing 'The Dark Wheel' novella? Presumably DB & IB knew of his writings or possibly knew him personally (his background is somewhat different though..).

In galnet there is an article by a conspiracy theorist:

14 AUG 3301 – Aliens Kidnapped the President
original article

Aliens Kidnapped the President

The spectre of President Halsey’s disappearance in Starship One refuses to die down. Despite the findings of the official report some claim that the matter is far from closed. One such person is self-proclaimed conspiracy expert Ricardo Bentonio on his investigative show ‘The Hidden World’:

“They took her for their own purposes. Not the lizard people from Andromeda, that’s the Imperial Dynasty. She’s been taken somewhere different.”

Federal Navy officials refused to comment on this allegation. One Congressman was overheard joking “Does anyone listen to that loon’s shows? Except his precious lizard people from Andromeda, of course!”

<now back to our usual program>

YB

PS - the man who coined the phrase 'Fernweh' was buried in a 'sea pyramid' according to wikipedia..
 
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The codex was only added a few months ago, it wasn't in beta. FDev has barely talked about Raxxla before, except to say they think the way to get to it is "a tiny bit obvious".

Thanks. There are some art concepts where 5-spoke station in asteroid field is pointing towards a star with a smaller star in-front of it (and not towards the planet), and FD delivers content based on long-term planning (they do not stray from visual design concept) I have my doubts on 8th moon hint.
 
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Partly out of curiosity but also for amusement, I bought a copy of "The Alien world: the complete illustrated guide" by Steven Eisler. Thats a pen name for Robert Holdstock (deceased btw..) . It's very - how can I put it? - of its time (published in 1980) . The pictures are awful and the text not much better.Thankfully it wasn't expensive :)

I know some people know this book , in fact some pictures have been borrowed from time to time to post here ..

In it is the very first reference to Raxxla - In fact there is a whole chapter devoted to the Oisir-Raxxla sector - a section of space dominated by Reptillian Aliens, the Oisir-Raxxlans. The sector is separated from the 'Human Sector' by "The Urgenirk Darks, a straggling line of vast black holes lined up along 40 million Aeons". There is a chapter on Talmor lenses (oh!- that's where that comes from!...) which in turn is related to the building of the pyramids on Earth and the inspiration of the gods Osiris and Ra. It describes how they found the world of Jodethum where they learnt the secrets of controlling time from the derelict civilization there. There are also the Sirens of Ivixor B and the tale of the great explorer Chesowaya Samarandara who is destroyed by them.

There is also a section in the Naranthu sector entitled 'The Tale of the Dark Wheel' - allegedly a myth of the 'Great Ship' that lives in the 'Dark Wheel', a galaxy named because 'it is shrouded in black clouds of intergalactic dust and gas' and the occupants are 'indisputably Human' who came from a generation ship that mis-jumped into their sector..

Now, of course, none of this is canon, but given its date of publication, it may have inspired DB & IB with some concepts - how did Mr Holdstock get the job of writing 'The Dark Wheel' novella? Presumably DB & IB knew of his writings or possibly knew him personally (his background is somewhat different though..).

In galnet there is an article by a conspiracy theorist:



<now back to our usual program>

YB

PS - the man who coined the phrase 'Fernweh' was buried in a 'sea pyramid' according to wikipedia..
Ah, I miss Ricardo Betonio, haven’t seen anything from him for a long while.

Maybe he’s gone back to goalkeeping.
 
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