The Quest To Find Raxxla

[Churno]

Coma bernices is in the asterism called the great diamond (aka virgos diamond) could be the jewel we seek. Inside the asterism we find bernices hair. I have travelled to rr virginis and 32 coma bernices wich i found to be high above the bubble( nothing there).
However even higher up in this region is 24 coma bernices which seems to be difficult to plot to but doesnt seem imposibble to get to .
I ran out of jumpoinium mats before i could reach it(had 50 100% boosts was not enough). Also in this region we have the lich star neutron( could be used to boost ur range a bit. Another note edsm says someone has been to coma 24 bernices but theres no data a player named jsullivan (sci fi writer?)
May be easier to get there with 80ly range i tryed in my 64ly and was just short on a few crucial jumps with the 100% boost one in particular was something like 144ly

 

[Rudolphus]

This question I have asked Will in private mail several days ago, no answer,

The official novel And here the wheel written by John Harper for Frontier

In the book is a hidden outpost in asteroid field called Smuggler 's junction in system LTT 2771,
Not in de game in that system,
My question is Smuggler 's junction in game?

 

[Old Duck]

I found Raxxla, I found Raxxla!!!!!

I know I did, I just can't remember. Last thing I remember was waking up at Baker's Prospect in a Sidewinder left to me by "someone", along with a cryptic letter. It seems obvious to me now that I did indeed find Raxxla, but they destroyed my ship and wiped my memory. I guess someone there took pity on me and loaned me a ship at least.

 

[Thatchinho]

Middle of the 23rd century = mid 2200s, as Han_Zen & Thatchinho said.

If hyperdrive invented early 2100 that gives around 150 years for improvements to be made, so 140ish ly should have been quite practicable for Marlin Duval et al to move to Achenar.

Raxxla is a little more hazy; codex says (do we believe this? could be more obfuscation) earliest rumour around 2296, so say it was found circa 2250 to provide some 45 years for the rumour to spread bubble-wide. So 150 years- around the same time as Achenar was first colonised. Is this a hint that it’s in or close to Imperial space?

Am I misremembering because I thought the early jump drives were capable of 7 ly jumps, & once a week does ring a bell. IF (!!!) this is correct that means a dedicated exploration team could travel 52*7 = 364 ly per year of expedition time. 150 years total, so 75 out & 75 back could mean it was located anywhere up to 27,300 ly from Sol, if there was an organisation dedicated to explore for new mysteries (e.g. TDW).

I remember Jason Ryder was setting up an expedition to search for Raxxla based on his research but was first taking a break with his son when he was killed. How far does that imply for Raxxla location? Say 10 weeks of travel each way for an expedition of tough spacers? What was the jump range then??

edit: of course this discussion is just trying to explore where Raxxla might have been originally found based on lore; FD may not have felt constrained by lore when siting it, or Raxxla may have been moved as the bubble grew (depending on whatever it is!) - presumably by TDW since they are said to have lost it (pretty careless if you ask me, not like losing your car keys....unless Raxxla is the name of the key fob carrying DB’s ship keys ).

2296 is just the earliest reference to Raxxla on public record. The point in the Codex is that it's already a myth at that point. Swap 'Raxxla' in the quote for, say, El Dorado or King Solomon's Mines for example...

 

[Oaktree]

Could Raxxla, whatever it is, be something to be found like the generation ships? Like someone has to be in the right system, point at the right star and travel a certain number of Ls.
We may just need to find from where and to we need to point. And this is indeed something that could be in the game since gamma or beta.

 

[Six6VI]

I found Raxxla, I found Raxxla!!!!!

I know I did, I just can't remember. Last thing I remember was waking up at Baker's Prospect in a Sidewinder left to me by "someone", along with a cryptic letter. It seems obvious to me now that I did indeed find Raxxla, but they destroyed my ship and wiped my memory. I guess someone there took pity on me and loaned me a ship at least.

Aged salty duck crackers with onionhead dip anyone?

 

[Scytale]

..zzz.. mmmh wut?... Raxxla found?.. again? ...great.. .zzz..

Could Raxxla, whatever it is, be something to be found like the generation ships? Like someone has to be in the right system, point at the right star and travel a certain number of Ls..

We may just need to find from where and to we need to point. And this is indeed something that could be in the game since gamma or beta.

Already done several times in several systems. The thing is, how to point with perfect accuracy to the aimed star? After a MLs the deviation may be huge...
But why not to try, again ? Starting point best bet, imho, Tau Ceti.

 

[MrMarkusCZ]

I fail to find it by search on this forum so I will ask directly. Was there ever activity to check skybox - map every star in the sky to systems registered in galaxy map? I'm really thinking about traveling to Tionisla and starting do it. But why to do it if that was already done.

 

[Thatchinho]

I fail to find it by search on this forum so I will ask directly. Was there ever activity to check skybox - map every star in the sky to systems registered in galaxy map? I'm really thinking about traveling to Tionisla and starting do it. But why to do it if that was already done.

I don't know of one. Anyone else?

Though tbh it sounds like a bit of a no-go to me, far too many to be practical. Plus unless I'm mistaken, you can adjust the amount of stars that appear in the skybox.

A better approach might be to do a series of skybox comparisons. Here's what I mean:

- Go to Sol, and fly far enough out to get a clear view of the skybox.
- Take screenshots looking in various directions (you would need fixed points for this, so Andromeda would be a good centre point for one of the screenshot directions. Beagle Point, and similar would work as well.)
- Highlight system bodies so they can be disregarded for the comparison
- Jump to another system, and fly far enough out to get a clear view of the skybox
- Take a set of screeshots again, matching the directions and orientations of the previous sets. (And highlight system bodies so they can be disregarded)
- Look at stars that have changed position, and compare those to the Galmap and look for discrepancies.

 

[Scytale]

Searching my notes, found this. Might be interesting for our excellent new Chymerae Hunters fellows who aren't aware of it

Specially the Cmdr Allin comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange..._missing_raxxla_link_please_just_hear_me_out/

If ever interested by the "Sirius Connection" , just ask Herr Professor-Doktor Han_Zen !
(.. but make sure you got your maths updated before !)

 

[Garand1987]

This sort of info should be documented so it’s a little more obvious, thanks! But the Raxxla rumour has been around since before that date so it can’t be an Orbis.

However it might be an early Ocellus. Wiki says “Modern Coriolis stations are cuboctahedrons with a 2-kilometer diameter. When it was first introduced by GalCop, the design had a much smaller diameter of 1 kilometer, but beginning in the 3200's the size was increased.” Galcop was the era of the original game, so way back; I’m sure someone else can put a date to it. “Modern Coriolis” implies there was at least one earlier version. This might fit the design shown in the Raxxla codex entry.

I think TDW hidden station is an orbis “having originated during the early years of the Federation and persisted over the centuries with minimal changes”. It is clearly a wheel shape

Oh yeah Raxxla is much older than that for sure. Jason Ryder was told of it by his dad and even then it was a fabled mystery that seemed old. So the story of it predates the formation of TDW by a bit. But, TDW was originally formed in the station, that’s no earlier than 3100. So either they moved into the station later or they formed later than the 22nd century and the historian quoted in the codex is incorrect.

 

[Eckee]

Searching my notes, found this. Might be interesting for our excellent new Chymerae Hunters fellows who aren't aware of it

Specially the Cmdr Allin comments:

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange..._missing_raxxla_link_please_just_hear_me_out/

If ever interested by the "Sirius Connection" , just ask Herr Professor-Doktor Han_Zen !
(.. but make sure you got your maths updated before !)

That’s obsolete.

1. Raxxla is not a portal
2. Polaris is reserved for Thargs
3. “As David Braben said it is in range of a stock Cobra III” Did he?

 

[Thatchinho]

That’s obsolete.

1. Raxxla is not a portal
2. Polaris is reserved for Thargs
3. “As David Braben said it is in range of a stock Cobra III” Did he?

In fairness here;

1. We don't know that.
2. We don't know that either, it's just the most obvious thing given FFE - the thing with that though is that it being the obvious thing also makes it a prime candidate for not actually being the obvious thing, if you see what I mean.
3. Yeah... that bit does have a certain bovine excrement whiff about it doesn't it!

Anyone ever seen a source for that alleged DB statement?

 

[Scytale]

That’s obsolete.

1. Raxxla is not a portal

So you know what Raxxla is ? Tell us tell us !

 

[Thatchinho]

Something I just noticed that may give is a better idea where or how far to look for TDW, and therefore Raxxla. There’s an Ad at the stations for Brewer, apparently the manufacturers of the Orbis style stations, and it says “Brewer, Looking down on worlds since 3100” with a very odd,possibly early Orbis station as the picture (looks much like the one in TDW codex entry). So if they’re in an Orbis style station left disused by someone else, as seems to be the case, that would mean they couldn’t have been in it before 3100 yeah?

This sort of info should be documented so it’s a little more obvious, thanks! But the Raxxla rumour has been around since before that date so it can’t be an Orbis.

However it might be an early Ocellus. Wiki says “Modern Coriolis stations are cuboctahedrons with a 2-kilometer diameter. When it was first introduced by GalCop, the design had a much smaller diameter of 1 kilometer, but beginning in the 3200's the size was increased.” Galcop was the era of the original game, so way back; I’m sure someone else can put a date to it. “Modern Coriolis” implies there was at least one earlier version. This might fit the design shown in the Raxxla codex entry.

I think TDW hidden station is an orbis “having originated during the early years of the Federation and persisted over the centuries with minimal changes”. It is clearly a wheel shape

Oh yeah Raxxla is much older than that for sure. Jason Ryder was told of it by his dad and even then it was a fabled mystery that seemed old. So the story of it predates the formation of TDW by a bit. But, TDW was originally formed in the station, that’s no earlier than 3100. So either they moved into the station later or they formed later than the 22nd century and the historian quoted in the codex is incorrect.

I don't think you can take the date of Brewer's incorporation / start of starport manufacture as a limiting date.

The TDW station is just said to be a Toroid.

In the no-artificial gravity ED universe, the Toroid is pretty much the most effective station design if it's intended for long term habitation:

- The spin is stable
- No contrarotating parts are needed to maintain the stability of the spin
- Much less wear and tear as a consequence.
- Full effective gravity at the habitation sections
- Zero grav docking, and zero/very low grav loading/unloading
- Day/night can be created via the spin and orientation

It'd be very surprising if Toroid stations weren't in use from very early times.

(Just going to add for clarity that it's not the optimal design for all types of station. The optimal design will change depending on what a station's purposes are.)

 

[GralAntilles]

Ra ( system Ra ) xx ( Roman Numerals =20 ) La ( Lagrange cloud )? This went through my mind last night. I also thought Ra might mean Right Ascension but there is not enough numerical data. The system Ra was interesting and Rahas ( related to Ra ) came up with nothing. I read ( again ) the Dark Wheel Novella buy Rob Holstock ( a wonderful story from my childhood ) this morning, noted all characters and places mentioned. We also did a data dump ( live on youtube ) a while back looking for all systems ( 2048 of them ) from the original game that are in E.D. There were not many but Ra was in there.

https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDange...xla_theory_drifter_planets/eiaf0q9/?context=3

that's a great coincidence i post this tought in reddit 4 days before you...

 

[Garand1987]

So you know what Raxxla is ? Tell us tell us !

I think what they were getting at is that according to all the books and the codex Raxxla *contains* a portal, not that Raxxla is the portal itself.

 

[Edelgard von Rhein]

I've been considering taking another trip to Colonia and maybe then onto The Void, so I thought I'd visit one or two highlights around the Bubble I hadn't yet seen - the Jameson Crash Site (HIP 12099 1b) and the INRA base on the adjacent moon (1a). It revealed a couple of difficulties searching for hidden things that might be relevant and an odd symbol (see in the spoiler below).
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The Jameson Crash Site and the INRA base do not appear in the nav panel until you have left orbital cruise. The Jameson crash showed only as Other (1) after the FSS scan and mapping the planet did not reveal the location. I happened to drop out within 25km because I had made a note of the co-ordinates first, so I don't know how far away you might see it. The INRA base showed as Human (1) without their being any settlements on the moon but mapping did not reveal its location either. I hadn't made a note of its co-ordinates but when I dropped out of orbital cruise it was shown on the nav panel as being about 415km away (it remained when I jumped back to orbital cruise to get closer). It was dark at the INRA base and without night vision I could have flown right over the base without seeing it!
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This INRA base is called Stack and has logs about procuring a live Thargoid specimen for experimentation, so perhaps the mycoid was developed into a weapon here prior to being deployed on Jameson's Cobra - crashed on the next moon. There is an octagonal 'loading bay' that looks large enough to accommodate a Thargoid Scout, with strange corrosion and cranes overhead for manipulation and a symbol that looks remarkably similar to the Raxxla Codex symbol in the centre. This symbol also appears on containers around the base but it is not the Biohazard symbol, although it does seem to represent a hazard symbol of some kind.

Spoiler

Maybe this is just a red herring but it makes me wonder about the origin of the Raxxla symbol in the Codex. Is it really part of a clue to the nature or location of Raxxla - or is it something else, like a hazard warning or even a symbol of ownership!? It is only the scarcity of information that makes me want to think it is a clue (I had been thinking that, in Guardian system description format, it was referring to a moon ABCDEF 1a, where planet ABCDEF 1 had three rings). If I ignore that wishful thinking, it seems more like a logo of sorts.

 

[Spaceman Si]

Oddly enough, I was at the Jameson Cobra last night.

It did appear for me as a listed PoI in the nav panel after I mapped the planet though, and I was able to select it and glide down to it. It was even labelled “Jameson Cobra Crash” or something equally helpful.

There is a bug at the moment (I know, who would have thought it?!) whereby a targetted planet PoI is not shown on the HUD after entering glide, and has to be deselected / reselected again from the nav panel, which causes some difficulty when trying to find stuff.

 

[Han_Zen]

I've been considering taking another trip to Colonia and maybe then onto The Void, so I thought I'd visit one or two highlights around the Bubble I hadn't yet seen - the Jameson Crash Site (HIP 12099 1b) and the INRA base on the adjacent moon (1a). It revealed a couple of difficulties searching for hidden things that might be relevant and an odd symbol (see in the spoiler below).
.
The Jameson Crash Site and the INRA base do not appear in the nav panel until you have left orbital cruise. The Jameson crash showed only as Other (1) after the FSS scan and mapping the planet did not reveal the location. I happened to drop out within 25km because I had made a note of the co-ordinates first, so I don't know how far away you might see it. The INRA base showed as Human (1) without their being any settlements on the moon but mapping did not reveal its location either. I hadn't made a note of its co-ordinates but when I dropped out of orbital cruise it was shown on the nav panel as being about 415km away (it remained when I jumped back to orbital cruise to get closer). It was dark at the INRA base and without night vision I could have flown right over the base without seeing it!
.
This INRA base is called Stack and has logs about procuring a live Thargoid specimen for experimentation, so perhaps the mycoid was developed into a weapon here prior to being deployed on Jameson's Cobra - crashed on the next moon. There is an octagonal 'loading bay' that looks large enough to accommodate a Thargoid Scout, with strange corrosion and cranes overhead for manipulation and a symbol that looks remarkably similar to the Raxxla Codex symbol in the centre. This symbol also appears on containers around the base but it is not the Biohazard symbol, although it does seem to represent a hazard symbol of some kind.
Maybe this is just a red herring but it makes me wonder about the origin of the Raxxla symbol in the Codex. Is it really part of a clue to the nature or location of Raxxla - or is it something else, like a hazard warning or even a symbol of ownership!? It is only the scarcity of information that makes me want to think it is a clue (I had been thinking that, in Guardian system description format, it was referring to a moon ABCDEF 1a, where planet ABCDEF 1 had three rings). If I ignore that wishful thinking, it seems more like a logo of sorts.

Good comparison!

I’m pretty sure that it is the symbol for Mycoid.