No, that's not what's going to happen. Your comment is the very defnition of a slippy slope fallacous argument (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope ). Thanks for the excellent example, though.
ANNOUNCEMENT April Update - Coming 23 April 2019
No, that's not what's going to happen. Your comment is the very defnition of a slippy slope fallacous argument (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slippery_slope ). Thanks for the excellent example, though.
Oh god, I just thought of a new challenge: get a conda into the new starter systems
Hardmode: get a cutter or corvette in there
Hardmode: get a cutter or corvette in there
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Botting is my main reason. If players want to use it then fine, however botting is easy enough as it is AND goes largely unpunished (not gonna supply links but there are websites which detail such things). My concern is these new features will make it so easy to bot that even I could do it... And regardless of what you believe Bots DO affect the game for everyone. Now, if FD can categorically state that they have systems in place and that all botters can and will be dealt with then great bit I am not feeling it
That said TBH all the updates coming next are the least of concerns . IF FD can fix the elite ranking problem in trade and exploration in next patch then all is forgiven. I want to earn elite not get handed if for in bubble flying so can't really even play now and haven't since 3.3 came out of beta. I was hoping for a fix before I hope it is coming in this
Got lots of answers.
Rank and time are not the issues. Player retention is.
Hardcores, in my context here, are the forum cheerleaders for a level of difficulty of play that they think is required for this game.
Many combat flying simulators dwindle their playerbases down to a literally elite core, then just become seal club camps for those who enter unaware. The hardcores fit that description.
Frontier, at the end of the day, needs new sales.
Maybe Frontier is a bot...
Powerplay wont die from botting. Powerplay's bots bring in new sales....
Oh no, not a shed load more bugs to contend with
I wonder if it will be like the AP from the earlier games with maybe a 1 in 10 chance of destruction whilst docking?
It seems incredibly unlikely that the game will ever play itself and I doubt a single post from a new player would be enough to convince Frontier to remove docking from the game, so your fears seem a little unfounded, if I'm totally honest.
Then there's no reason to worry about adding these features, is there? Unless we're now expected to be worried about an influx of mediocre bot-writers as well as mediocre players. :V
I would imagine the docking part of things is going to work in a very similar way to the current docking computer as it exists in game. Just a hunch.
I have no idea what player retention in ED is. If you have data or a link, show!Got lots of answers.
Rank and time are not the issues. Player retention is.
Hardcores, in my context here, are the forum cheerleaders for a level of difficulty of play that they think is required for this game.
Many combat flying simulators dwindle their playerbases down to a literally elite core, then just become seal club camps for those who enter unaware. The hardcores fit that description.
Frontier, at the end of the day, needs new sales.
I think we don't share the definition of hardcore. There's always a niche of players who consider any change bad. If you consider them hardcores, well... OK I guess? The bitter vets (whom I, on the other hand, consider hardcore players) I know have thousands of hours logged into the game and have pretty much graduated to combat and BGS. They're very vocal about balancing issues inherent in the current game system and wouldn't mind scrapping immense parts of the game for exchange of several things, most of which would enhance gameplay. Hence, when you say something about "hardcore gamers" I take it to mean people who actually spend a lot of time in the game and hence know it inside out. Different meanings I guess.
WW2 sims are often only populated by experienced players, but many of them share a key difference to Elite: you can be new in the game, but if you're skilled, you have a fighting chance. In ED this is not possible due to timesink engineering etc. - you will lose, no matter your skill. This cannot be solved by limiting new and old player interactions, but requires actual, dramatic changes to how the ships are built and just what can be done with them. The current system does not satisfy any Open player and trickles to Solo as well.
Just aside, considering ED a niche game is also deceptive. Just two weeks ago I popped to Stem to check the 100 most played games of the moment, and ED was sitting there at #98 or so. For a five year old spaceship pew pew pew game that's a lot.
Although I had the disk version so I can't vouch for this, I'm told the docking computer of the original BBC Micro Elite cassette version had exactly this 'feature' - as soon as you engaged the DC you were docked. The disk version was much more 'fun' - most of the time it splatted you into the front of the Dodo station.
Yes I am sure docking will be the same as it is now, I was just trying to inject some humour, silly me.
As for, there are already some botters therefore no problem making it easier and getting some more.... I disagree. There is some logic to it , but I would rather FD made cheating harder not easier.
I don't do PP btw so whilst I am sure bots are a problem there that was not what I had in mind, I was more thinking about efforts against the BGS and game factions.
Yeah, I was just being a bit of a nose tweaker and railing against the consensus that this is a brilliant new feature. I believe its called trolling????
I'm just waiting for someone to post it so I can say 'told you so'. I promise not to create an Alt forum account and do it myself.....
In reality it would be unworkable as you'd hit the docking computer button and immediately disappear off the scanner.
Man there are some silly arguments in here.
Looking forward to the new content and trying out the new modules.
Looking forward to the new content and trying out the new modules.
Keeps ppl busy.
I for one cant wait for the new update to come and can try out the new features.
Also, the FSS, anyone notices something diferent about it? Seens to me they messed with it a bit.
I for one cant wait for the new update to come and can try out the new features.
Also, the FSS, anyone notices something diferent about it? Seens to me they messed with it a bit.
I think the "idea" of the gankers is to create a new account that they'll always wipe after gaining first combat rank. Experienced gankers will still wreck havoc in these systems, even in low level, unengineered ships. That's what I've gathered, not that I get the mindset behind it...
...pssst, this update is sponsored by twitch tv
At least the difference between gankers/griefers and proper PvPers will be more obvious. At the moment they can cruise around in engineered FdLs and blow stuff up, claiming they didn't realise they were hitting new players (in Eravate... oh well). Deliberately making a new CMDR and doing it in the starter area in a Sidewinder rather gives the game away. FD could even identify the behaviour using algorithms (e.g. detecting very combat-fitted Sidewinders) and hand out bans or other penalties.
Data from PS4 achievement rates:
Barely more than half of all players have bought a new ship.
Less than half have turned in a single bounty or cashed in a single cartographic scan.
Just checked out the other achievements.
Win 25 CQC matches: <1%
Oof.
Edit: looks like less than 70% have even created their commander. I'm curious how many owners of the game have never even played it?
... not that I'm one to talk given the state of my steam library.
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