Allow use of pre 3.3 Advanced Discovery Scanner
- Thread starter ThatSmileyGuy
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Stating the obvious...
Everyone got an FSS to stop all the actual explorers already out in the black having to return and refit. FDEV avoided breaking the game for them by making it standard.
It benefitted everyone. People that didn't have an ADS were likely hanging around the bubble, they needed it to find stuff, the people that had an ADS received a free slot to use as they wish.
Nothing wrong with that.
The FSS is not magically invisible and weightless, it's built into every ship. The weight is part of the ships basic weight. It should have a power supply though, like any other module.
But you seem to not have an issue with the system map and galaxy map which is the same. The Nave computer doesn't have any weight either if we go by the same logic. What about the codex? Maybe that should weigh something too.
Except there in lies the flaw in your argument, your assumption that they are (or should be) completely separate systems. The xDS could have been preserved but mutated in function in essence. Effectively changing them in function and name to Discovery Computers as opposed to scanners as such. Removing said module(s) mid-flight benefits very few people (just a small rebuy reduction) since the only time the free slot would be of value would be the next time they docked for a refit - at which point the CMDR in question could have chosen to remove the now optional module.
While this thread is referring to re-adding the legacy ADS we are more talking about allowing for the legacy mechanics as opposed to being pedantic about the module itself being called a discovery scanner.
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Sounds like an overcomplicated way of doing exactly what they've already done since all the ADS's functionality is already in the FSS.
False, the xDS and FSS may have overlap in purpose but they are sufficiently different to debunk your claim - and no, FD did not do what they should have done (c/f what I described). You call it over-complicated, but it is not that complicated in actual fact.
Ultimately, what is done is done - what FD should or should not have done is rather moot - the proposal being put forward by this thread is pretty sound and has current precedent - essentially the addition of an optional module that allows the automatic population of the topological map in unexplored systems (no details, labels, discovery tags, nor in-game credit gains - just the level of data that is displayed in explored systems with the nominal FSS honk) thereby allowing for system scanning using the near body scan approach with FSS scanning being still an option with or without the unit fitted.
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Really, the free slot is more likely a bonus to smooth the waters of dissension adding weight to the scales of acceptance.
As for your personal opinion, that should be a factor, your feelings are what drive you to play the game or drive you away, I have some 2000 hours logged and I thoroughly enjoyed that time, since the disruption to my game with the new 'Ronco/K-Tel' scanner I play far less, the enthusiasm has been drained from me and I cannot see myself investing in any expansions for a game I simply don't enjoy anywhere near as much as any investment would warrant... so yes, I'd say personal opinions matter very much, very much indeed.
They have their hands full with the roadmap moving forwards to the new DLC. No need to waste time and effort on players refusing to use the improved in game mechanics.
There is no roadmap. At least no published one.
Second, they did find time to implement improved game mechanics of self-piloting ships right?
Noob-friendliness is part of the roadmap.
No Max, that's factually incorrect because the designs that didn't have an ADS didn't lose a slot. Everone means everyone and not everyone wants to explore.
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And that has nothing to do with what I said.
It's OK to make the customers happy.
That's why they ignore the inevitable edge cases and go with what's popular.
What has exploration got to do with it. Combat ships need the FSS to search for USS's to gather materials. People need the FSS to find scenarios for combat missions. People need the FSS to find mission objectives.
It's a benefit to everyone, some more then other and to say otherwise is factually incorrect and possibly dishonest.
Personally, I would still prefer it to be an optional module as it was originally intended. But as there was a bug that allowed people to use the FSS whether you had the ADS installed or not (it's was still called the ADS), I assume it was probably easier for them to just make it a built in module.
Yes. The FSS reveals them all though, which makes finding a specific type easier. There is no downside to the way the USS discovery mechanism was implemented, in all cases (AFAIK) it is the same as or better than before.
Yes, they still spawn randomly as you fly around as well if dropping into them whilst going A-B is your thing.