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As decreed by Max Factor, Grand Ruler of the Universe.
What a joke.
I'll be the judge of what's most important to me, thank you very much.
Allow use of pre 3.3 Advanced Discovery Scanner
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As decreed by Max Factor, Grand Ruler of the Universe.
What a joke.
I'll be the judge of what's most important to me, thank you very much.
Forced compromises are more destructive than having options - if particular individuals have issues with particular options being available then the problem is with them not the options.
picommander I get what you are saying but to be fair paralax by eyeball really was place holder. A decent ships computer of the elite universe ought to be able to spot the entire system by paralax in short order. You might even be able to stretch to the (old) ADS being a representation of that. And you can still do it by eye now if you really want to.
Iv never said i wanted to take the FSS away from anybody. Even tho i detest auto discover. I just said they should have been ignored in the first place
Iv never said i wanted to take the FSS away from anybody. Even tho i detest auto discover. I just said they should have been ignored in the first place
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I can't believe you said that. I care about getting tags, and could see any further until i completely removed this from any sort of relevance. The mapped tag is the biggest insult to injury of fss regime. Its completely redundant, and the fact that any tag is given without doing any in game activity of meaning wasnt positive. If they changed the label to something like "first explored" if you got both that would have been better, but seeing your name twice on a body is immensely stupid. Pretend you care about tagging and try it.
Well cause eyeballing is like looking out of the ships window. Seems obvious to me that wasnt right in the setting. Parallax being place holder cause basicly there is nothing there at all. Just you looking. Dont we use super computers today to spot parallax ?
Edit: ok well google says its used to measure distance to near by stars.
Install one one one drive, disable that port. Install another on another drive. Enable both and change boot order as needed.
The joke is on you. This thread gets more absurd is it goes on.
Funny joke.
I detest that with so much venom it's giving me acid... damn I hate that, really I really really... Nurse Nurse.. Morphine!
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If there were a 'switch' an 'option' to disable Auto-discover I would turn it off and unbind that key never to be used again, I would not take it away from anyone else, simply not get the 'advantage' of getting the 'system welcome bag' would return much of the enjoyment Exploration has lost for me, the return of the 'Map' as an 'option' should equally not bother anyone else were I to use it...
As for those rocks out as far as Hutton... yup I'd go right on out there because (subjective) I'd want to.
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Just to be different, I love auto discover. Unexpectedly it really adds to flight / in ship first experiences. Or beggars can’t be choosers and even doing nothing is better than the fss?
I never thought I’d be begging for relief from exploration mechanics
In the old days, you wouldn't find so much as a sweet wrapper from me in a system if I didn't scan it all (out in the black...not talking about bubble dregs here) now I leave this foul trail and to add insult to the Exploration System as a whole I cherry pick and blow my nose on my sleeveJust to be different, I love auto discover. Unexpectedly it really adds to flight / in ship first experiences. Or beggars can’t be choosers and even doing nothing is better than the fss?
I never thought I’d be begging for relief from exploration mechanics
Yeah me too. I was not common and got offended at the “scan the star while scooping” thing, never touched anything unless I was going to 100%. That’s not compatible anymore. Unhealthy to go there
I’ve detatched from tagging a bit... very content with getting a bunch of systems in the bubble 100% first mapped and no discovered tags.
Everything about it is a little dumb. Discovered tags are meaningless. Mapping tags add dupes and look stupid when you actually do it. You can’t not pollute the tags on the way through. You don’t know if someone cheesed it or actually went to discover the body. Yeah I think about my private empire in the bubble and leave it at that.
Yeah, i know. We all jump into the game to pilot the ship. It's fun after all. But i see the issue being adressed for the same reason. It's space. So most of the time You will be travelling in straight lines. And it's hardly any gameplay going for half an hour to a certain place in a straight line while ship holds its course.
This of course could have been handled differently rather than making discovery available straight from entry point.
Super Cruise boosting for example comes to mind. or maybe in-system jumping but those seem a little too overpowered(Interdictions become unavailable if not handled properly).
I love piloting the ship and i did go on long supercruse flights just to see what's what. Seeing systems unveil in front of my eyes was a great experience whenever i found something extraordinary. One might argue that "it takes more time than FSS scanning does" but no. Since to see where i want to stay i have cumulative time of scanning every system along the way to decide where i would like to hang around as opposed to previously being able to at a glance check if i want to. Then I'd spend time in a system i found worth staying in. But as stated before finding one is very rare in 400 billion star system galaxy with low chances of Stellar Forge producing something trully astonishing.
On the PC I mentioned I have two hard drives and just swap the boot drive in the bios if I want to change the OS. It's not the most elegant solution but it works.
But the point is I can still use it.
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Good for you... enjoy your game!
I'm not interested in the gas giants (usually, there are always exceptions), but I may be interested in it's moons or whatever. Any player that already has the tools they want isn't going to be affected by putting the old tools back in again for other players to use, and you may decide you want to carry them too, it would be optional.
I get why the pro-ADS people are still active all these months later, but I'm not sure why the anti-ADS folks keep tossing the salad. My contribution to this "debate" is to make sure Frontier doesn't change the FSS by merging ADS features into it (keep the ADS a separate, optional module). Otherwise I don't care how other players explorer / vacation. It's not like they can use the ADS to gank me in Deciat 
I think you answered your own question. Different people have different views on what they want from the game, and if they think the proposal will adversely affect them they can raise the concern.I get why the pro-ADS people are still active all these months later, but I'm not sure why the anti-ADS folks keep tossing the salad. My contribution to this "debate" is to make sure Frontier doesn't change the FSS by merging ADS features into it (keep the ADS a separate, optional module). Otherwise I don't care how other players explorer / vacation. It's not like they can use the ADS to gank me in Deciat
Even if it's not being actively discussed the problem remains. Fortunately this is an easy one to solve, just by putting the old discovery modules back into outfitting.
And add some new ones! We've got dozens of weapons to chose from, half-a-dozen mining tools to chose from, yet we only have one optional exploration-specific module, the DSS. While I do very much like the FSS, Exploration still seems to lag other professions regarding flexibility and "things to do".