Corvette vs FDL

1400dps if all pelets hit. Which is not happening, not even at 500m (at 2:07 you start firing at 1.1km and finish at 800m)
Anyway, if you have doubts fill a report and let FDev analyze it

And i do hope that you take as constructive whatever criticism floats in this thread
Thanks. I pride myself on having no pride (who else would post this vid?). I have reasons for this setup, testing out a paci in the huge HP. I've won my share of duels with it. Also, it melts Pirate Lords before they can jump away (which is what I was doing right before this recording). An evasive shield tank CMDR in a FDL is my blindspot (now I know). I posted the vid here to show the skills of a great pilot and ask questions how I can improve, knowing full well the insults would rain down on me, my build, my skills, all of it. I don't care. I know I can improve. I dont think its wrong to ask questions about stuff I don't understand, is it?
 
Nope. Silent running assumes no shields.

It was definitely that thermal vent beam causing issues.

1400dps if all pelets hit. Which is not happening, not even at 500m (at 2:07 you start firing at 1.1km and finish at 800m)

Yeah, effective range is heavily dependent on the profile of the ship one is fighting.

500m is like...almost full damage against the broad side of an Anaconda. ~1km away from the nose-on profile of an FDL is a lot of pellets missing the mark.

Just curious.... why personally do you prefer less drifty ships?

Addendum: also wondering whether your increased preference for FA on has anything to do with ship driftiness.

It's both a matter of personal preference for a tightness/responsiveness to my thruster inputs and because evasion while drifting is generally overly boost dependent. Not that I won't use boost to evade (or outright abuse the snot out of it in ships like the Krait), but I don't like it being the only way to rapidly shift movement vector without changing facing. I do a lot of my flying with my vertical and lateral thrusters; ships that have weak ones, and extensive FA off use, are things I avoid, all other things being equal. Of course, things aren't always equal.

Thanks. I pride myself on having no pride (who else would post this vid?). I have reasons for this setup, testing out a paci in the huge HP. I've won my share of duels with it. Also, it melts Pirate Lords before they can jump away (which is what I was doing right before this recording). An evasive shield tank CMDR in a FDL is my blindspot (now I know). I posted the vid here to show the skills of a great pilot and ask questions how I can improve, knowing full well the insults would rain down on me, my build, my skills, all of it. I don't care. I know I can improve. I dont think its wrong to ask questions about stuff I don't understand, is it?

Trial, error, and review. That's how we learn.

It took me a whole year to settle on a vette loadout I liked that didn't feel like it had a gaping hole in capabilities vs. smaller ships.
 
It was definitely that thermal vent beam causing issues.



Yeah, effective range is heavily dependent on the profile of the ship one is fighting.

500m is like...almost full damage against the broad side of an Anaconda. ~1km away from the nose-on profile of an FDL is a lot of pellets missing the mark.

I was looking at his icon on my dashboard when i got the best hits because it lit up all over, and it looked like it was in the 500m range. In similar duels I can discern some reduction in shield strength, but not here. Arai says his thermal resist is 40% on a prismatic shield build. That's pretty good. So like I said this is the perfect build vs my build. When a big ship pilot asks for a duel, I have a set of PAs on standby that I swap out.
 
Since my relatively recent experiences with more traditional collapsed-regen focused bi-weave setups against loadouts like your "melee FDL", I've pretty much tripled the raw MJ on all of my bi-weave equipped medium ships.

I used to run about 600-800MJ on a bi-weave FDL. I now run 1800-2000, still bi-weave.

Yeah, I've done similar when I run biweaves now. The problem here is that I encountered this kind of shield without seeing the shield boosters needed to get to those levels combined with the fact that when I took half of them away with plasma rams, they were topped back up in under 30 seconds with only one shield bank (that had to be class 4 since there's really no way he could have gotten those results with an undersized shield on an FDL) and no visual indication that he was banking. I know from experience that a class 5 (the highest possible on an FDL) engineered biweave can NOT recover like that in combat. We're talking at least 800-1k shield regen in a very short time.
 
Yeah, I've done similar when I run biweaves now. The problem here is that I encountered this kind of shield without seeing the shield boosters needed to get to those levels combined with the fact that when I took half of them away with plasma rams, they were topped back up in under 30 seconds with only one shield bank (that had to be class 4 since there's really no way he could have gotten those results with an undersized shield on an FDL) and no visual indication that he was banking. I know from experience that a class 5 (the highest possible on an FDL) engineered biweave can NOT recover like that in combat. We're talking at least 800-1k shield regen in a very short time.
Do you record your fights? Btw, we had some battles recently and your FDL shields react as I would expect to my frag blasts. Sorry if this makes you look bad coming from a horrible Scrublord like me :D
 
Do you record your fights? Btw, we had some battles recently and your FDL shields react as I would expect to my frag blasts. Sorry if this makes you look bad coming from a horrible Scrublord like me :D

Sadly, my video capture wasn't running like it usually is as I had run out of disk space earlier in the evening and hadn't had the chance to clear more room yet. And yes I remember the wing fights the other night (gg!) - your vette was doing significant damage to my FDL's 3k prismatic even with almost 70% kinetic resists. I had a lot of opportunity to notice since I was soaking up the fire while my wingmates focused. I could definitely see damage to my shield even during glancing blows as I would boost around you. Because of this recent experience, I was very surprised to see no damage done at ALL in the 1v1 video you posted here.
 
Sadly, my video capture wasn't running like it usually is as I had run out of disk space earlier in the evening and hadn't had the chance to clear more room yet. And yes I remember the wing fights the other night (gg!) - your vette was doing significant damage to my FDL's 3k prismatic even with almost 70% kinetic resists. I had a lot of opportunity to notice since I was soaking up the fire while my wingmates focused. I could definitely see damage to my shield even during glancing blows as I would boost around you. Because of this recent experience, I was very surprised to see no damage done at ALL in the 1v1 video you posted here.
I'm uploading that fight now. "Fine art of Friendship" one of my favorite songs from days of old.
 
Sadly, my video capture wasn't running like it usually is as I had run out of disk space earlier in the evening and hadn't had the chance to clear more room yet. And yes I remember the wing fights the other night (gg!) - your vette was doing significant damage to my FDL's 3k prismatic even with almost 70% kinetic resists. I had a lot of opportunity to notice since I was soaking up the fire while my wingmates focused. I could definitely see damage to my shield even during glancing blows as I would boost around you. Because of this recent experience, I was very surprised to see no damage done at ALL in the 1v1 video you posted here.
very convenient you don’t have the recording lol.

and of course he’s gonna be doing damage to ur 70% kinetic resist shields, he’s firing incendiary rounds. he only got 3 decent hits on me where 25% of the pellets hit me an i had 4 pips in sys, you can clearly see when this happens the outer ring darkens a bit.
 
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very convenient you don’t have the recording lol.

and of course he’s gonna be doing damage to ur 70% kinetic resist shields, he’s firing incendiary rounds. he only got 3 decent hits on me where 25% of the pellets hit me an i had 4 pips in sys, you can clearly see when this happens the outer ring darkens a bit.

I never noticed your outer ring darken. But anyway, here's the fight with Starmony's crew:
 
Yeah, I've done similar when I run biweaves now. The problem here is that I encountered this kind of shield without seeing the shield boosters needed to get to those levels combined with the fact that when I took half of them away with plasma rams, they were topped back up in under 30 seconds with only one shield bank (that had to be class 4 since there's really no way he could have gotten those results with an undersized shield on an FDL) and no visual indication that he was banking. I know from experience that a class 5 (the highest possible on an FDL) engineered biweave can NOT recover like that in combat. We're talking at least 800-1k shield regen in a very short time.

Could your opponent have been shutting down boosters?

I have three HD boosters on my FDL and I turn them off as shield fall to increase damage resistances as well as to make sure I have a quick collapsed recharge if and when they do fail. This has confused people in the past.
 
shutting off shield boosters only really works when the shields are down
 
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I always feel these shield rings on the hud are so stupid. Why can't I see a goddamn percentage even approximate? It is so hard to discern if you are doing any significant damage or not.
ikr? and it can’t be for balancing reasons as you can see the % in contacts tab...
 
Yeah I was running small lightweight rails and a thermal vent beam. Not sure about effectiveness yet but it sure is fun.
sure, i was running a prismatic build with high kinetic resistance and lightweight rails and a efficient thermal vent beam. also near the end of the video you can see that my shields have actually taken some damage, albeit not much. i can understand why this might be fishy but i’ll definitely be recording all my fights from now on.

that’s literally what i did hahah, which is why later in the fight he almost one shots my shields


edit: wrong fight, i didn’t shut off my shield booster in that fight with starmony. what’s funny though is i WAS running a class 4 biweave and a class 5 bank.



So just to be clear, you're talking about two different builds here?
Small rails?
Against who are you running the prismatics?
I'd be interested in seeing a coriolis link.
 
yeah
So just to be clear, you're talking about two different builds here?
Small rails?
Against who are you running the prismatics?
I'd be interested in seeing a coriolis link.
yeah those were two different fights, Starmony was the one talking about my biweaves. i’ll drop a coriolis link when i get home. Also, definitely misspoke, I wasn’t using prismatics in either of those fights, the first one i was using regular shields with high resistances.
 
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yeah

yeah those were two different fights, Starmony was the one talking about my biweaves. i’ll drop a coriolis link when i get home. Also, definitely misspoke, I wasn’t using prismatics in either of those fights, the first one i was using regular shields with high resistances.


Those sorts of inconsistencies cast further doubt on your story, ftr.
And to be clear, that's a c4 biweave in both?
 
Those sorts of inconsistencies cast further doubt on your story, ftr.
And to be clear, that's a c4 biweave in both?
cool, you’re not frontier, this isn’t an investigation. if OP thinks i’m hacking he should report it to frontier. i’m answering questions because people are curious about my build.

no, c5 regular shield in the fight in the video, c4 biweave in the second fight.
 
cool, you’re not frontier, this isn’t an investigation. if OP thinks i’m hacking he should report it to frontier. i’m answering questions because people are curious about my build.

no, c5 regular shield in the fight in the video, c4 biweave in the second fight.

Actually, if you staged a different performance, or not visit the thread at all, some people would likely report you. It’s almost miraculous that you showed up, explained yourself so well and as such evaded most damage to your rep. Well done, good move.
 
cool, you’re not frontier, this isn’t an investigation. if OP thinks i’m hacking he should report it to frontier. i’m answering questions because people are curious about my build.

no, c5 regular shield in the fight in the video, c4 biweave in the second fight.

Lol
I'm just stating the obvious.
When your story shifts all over the place, that's just what happens.

So now you've introduced yet another option?


I'd be very curious to see both builds.
 
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