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Dutchman141

Dutchman141
Ian Doncaster said:
Another problem with lack of competition is that Elite Dangerous has to do all of it. I think there's way too much in the scope for it all to get the attention it needs - so everyone complains that their bit is neglected.

If someone brought out a game which really focused on the exploration side and did it very well, but had basically no combat or inhabited space activity beyond restock, refit, head out again ... probably a lot of ED's big exploration groups would head over there in an instant. That would reduce the demand for exploration features in ED, which would let them focus more on the rest. Both games would probably end up way better at the things they specialised in.

But obviously until the competitor is there Frontier doesn't know which bits it can afford not to focus on too much, and which bits are critical for distinctiveness.

At the moment it's a bit like there's only one FPS, and it has to appeal to the careful stealth and sniping players, the people who want a giant array of ever-more ridiculous weapons to mow down waves of enemies, and the "actually, the 1870 model had an eight-shot clip" hyper-realism fans. Regardless of the build and implementation quality, there aren't going to be many people entirely happy with the result...
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You're right in the sense that ED is trying to contain it all and that it's probably to much.
However.....
Perhaps they could've decided to flesh out the existing features like Thargoids, Guardians, Planetary activities, multicrew, etc. instead of starting this new "Era" which probably adds another new feature that won't be developed fully.
Only time will tell if ED is still viable by the end of 2020 or not, in the meantime I think only more people will become washed out by the lack of in-depth features and the multitude of persisting bugs.
Eighteen months is a long time for a playerbase waiting for something substantial, especially with the lack of communication Fdev is demonstrating and the way they handle the overal quality of the game.
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
IndigoWyrd said:
They’re going to disappoint enough people to keep the salt mines open indefinitely, so who cares?
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I care, well at least I cared a lot more then I do now, my enthousiasm is diminishing further with every update atm.
ED used to be my favorite game and I only wanted it to become better, when Horizons was introduced I was super excited, landing and driving around on planets heck yeah!!!, to bad that's all there was to it though and it never became much better, just like so many features.
 

IndigoWyrd

IndigoWyrd
Dutchman141 said:
I care, well at least I cared a lot more then I do now, my enthousiasm is diminishing further with every update atm.
ED used to be my favorite game and I only wanted it to become better, when Horizons was introduced I was super excited, landing and driving around on planets heck yeah!!!, to bad that's all there was to it though and it never became much better, just like so many features.
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That’s why I sold my Hype Train pass years ago. I still enjoy Elite, but it has a long way to go. There’s enough bile around here to poison several countries, so I tend to pay little attention to what most people post.

Frontier has their own inconceivable methodology for updating, both when and what is updated, and trying to make any sense of it is an exercise in futility, so I gave up on it. They’ll update what they update when they update it.

I just keep an eye open for posted release dates so I can be absolutely sure to play anything else on release day, because nothing good ever happens trying to play on release day.

My Quality of Life improved so much by simply relaxing and not worrying about what or when updates happen.*

* It would improve even more if Apple learned to make a more accurate touch interface and my phone stopped making up words I always have to go back and edit.
 

Nutter

Nutter
Whelp, I've gone through the entire thread an can officially announce that Fleet Carriers have not been canceled (YET)
No idea when or if they will ever make the game, or if FD will ever announce anything.

Now you can all sleep easy :)
 

Notwyn

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zimms said:
@Notwyn
But you could choose not to read it. Seems a bit unfair that everyone should do as you prefer.
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Alas, somewhat limits my reading. The ranting and raving on the forums would be epic so pretty hard to avoid.
I think your suggestion is overly simplistic and not properly thought out.
I must say their current communication plan suits me fine.
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
IndigoWyrd said:
My Quality of Life improved so much by simply relaxing and not worrying about what or when updates happen.*

* It would improve even more if Apple learned to make a more accurate touch interface and my phone stopped making up words I always have to go back and edit.
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Well I just arived at this point and am enjoying other games a lot more now that I don't focus on ED anymore.
Fdev is handling things in a quite incomprehensive way and it takes all the fun out of ED.
If others still have fun, good for them, I'm finding my fun elsewhere and plenty of others with me according to my Xbox live feed.
It's a shame though.

And summer is coming so lots of stuff to do outside!
 

Wargfoot

Wargfoot
Dutchman141 said:
Well I just arived at this point and am enjoying other games a lot more now that I don't focus on ED anymore.
Fdev is handling things in a quite incomprehensive way and it takes all the fun out of ED.
If others still have fun, good for them, I'm finding my fun elsewhere and plenty of others with me according to my Xbox live feed.
It's a shame though.

And summer is coming so lots of stuff to do outside!
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I hate these kinds of posts where a person pretends to be leaving the game due to bugs.

You played for a couple of years, got bored, moved on.
End.

^----- There is absolutely nothing wrong with that being the case. It happens to all players, in all games, eventually.
 

Dutchman141

Dutchman141
Wargfoot said:
I hate these kinds of posts where a person pretends to be leaving the game due to bugs.

You played for a couple of years, got bored, moved on.
End.

^----- There is absolutely nothing wrong with that being the case. It happens to all players, in all games, eventually.
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You obviously didn't read my other posts.
If it was only bugs then yeah but the problem goes much further then that imho.
I've had more then my money's worth but that doesn't mean that I can't wish for a game improving even further, especially a game that has the intention to be evolving over a longer time span.
I'm sad about the way Fdev is handling things, sad because ED was my most favorite game, a game I had been waiting for for a long time since 1984.

I can live without ED, there's so much more fun to be had from so many activities but that doesn't mean that I think it's a pitty the way things go regarding ED and that I'll be moving on indefinitely if matters don't improve.
 

zimms

zimms
Nutter said:
Whelp, I've gone through the entire thread an can officially announce that Fleet Carriers have not been canceled (YET)
No idea when or if they will ever make the game, or if FD will ever announce anything.

Now you can all sleep easy :)
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Thanks for that nice and accurate prophecy, Agnes.
 

Boff'in

Boff'in
Paige Harvey said:
That’s a good question!

While we’d love to tell you everything as we find it out, the reality is that we need to show things when they’re ready, and in the best shape possible. Every single feature, in every single game, goes through multiple iterations, bug tests and redesigns before they’re released to the public. As such, if a company were to release all the information they have, you’d end up with a lot of convoluted and eventually incorrect content.

We know it’s exciting to get a sneak peek at things in development, but as mentioned, things change and when that has to happen, we wouldn’t want to let anyone down. You also have to understand that you can’t just speak about a feature, you have to show it. That requires development time to teach the feature, tech time to set up the build, creative services time to make images and videos and community time to design a release plan and get that information out.

To do all that for information which will change very quickly doesn’t make a lot of sense. So, in order to make sure that what we present to you is as correct as possible, sometimes we have to hold our secrets to our chest and ensure it’s right before we show it off to you all.

TL;DR – Games development is constantly in flux and features constantly change. Showing off information early leads to misinformation and potential disappointment. There’s also a lot more to releasing info than simply putting a post on the internet.

We hope this information helps explain the situation a little!
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Shut up and give me half life 2 episode 3 already!

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babelfisch

babelfisch
Gregg Rulz ok said:
You did keep replying though, and no that's not me getting personal, that's me being honest, in every discussion I've had with you, you forget what was said before constantly.
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Actually it seems like you forget what was said before. Your comment was completely unrelated to the discussion and now you want that Max makes a point about something he never discussed. Maybe you are the one who should see a doctor? :)
 

The Replicated Man

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babelfisch said:
Actually it seems like you forget what was said before. Your comment was completely unrelated to the discussion and now you want that Max makes a point about something he never discussed. Maybe you are the one who should see a doctor? :)
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Maybe Greg doesn't rule after all...
 

Riverside

Riverside
Wargfoot said:
Freakin' Forever Season Pass people got all of those.... I hate those guys.
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Lifetime pass doesn't (or hasn't so far) provided anything exclusive, it just means they've paid in advance for all future premium updates.

I'd appreciate it if you wouldn't perpetuate that particular rumour.
 
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