The Quest To Find Raxxla

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
PeteACarter said:
This thread and our collective efforts MUST work on the following principles:

Raxxla exists (confirmed)
Raxxla can be discovered
Raxxla is a complex, multi-step puzzle, there is not just a random planet in the middle of the void that can be stumbled across by accident, on somebody 3 weeks into the game.

Otherwise, whats the point?
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I have to agree with the penguin on this. Points 2 and 3 can hardly be taken as a given.

And yet there are plenty of reasons for this thread to exist that go beyond those principles. For one, several regular contributors to this thread (myself included) began other threads related to Raxxla that had a slightly different focus but we all kind of agreed to consolidate the discussion into this one. Not all of us are searching for Raxxla for the same reasons.

I, for one, suspect that Raxxla does exist in the game but that there must be reasons why it simply cannot be found right now. I think it is either permit locked or otherwise obfuscated from the galaxy map. Possibly a system that can only be seen in the Nav panel and doesn't get displayed on the map. Much like the Zurara, which was originally just a derelict Anaconda, Raxxla will be more impressive down the road when the game is more mature. If Raxxla turns out to be an Earth-like world I certainly don't want to find it until I can land on it and explore the surface.

Meanwhile there is still plenty of value in discussing Raxxla. Current speculation regarding what little we do know will likely apply toward actually finding Raxxla later on ... and, of course, I could be 100% wrong about my assumptions. Maybe Raxxla is already out there, fully realized, and just waiting for one of us to finally crack the code and find it. And so we dutifully hop into the thread and post our latest musings.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
yelboc said:
I had wondered before if "spiralling stars" was some sort of hint at a Fibonacci sequence, which fdev are so fond of. But you need start values and a stop point to run the sequence to - got stuck there.

Given that mythology has been beaten to death and not revealed one extra clue, I figure a different tack is needed. May as well start with codes, but if you can figure the "mother of galaxies" out without reaching for Larousse' Mythology then I think that'd be a good start.

As they say - start at the beginning :) ( and it's consistent across languages)
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I think the most fitting for the spiraling stars, would be the different pole stars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star

If you pick any one of them and watch it for 25,770 years, you will see it spiral slowly out to about 40° declination and back in to the center of earth's axis at 90° declination(The Ophalos point / Axis Mundi). All of them will move in this extremely slow spiral.

This would also fit nicely with Vega as princess Astrophel, as Vega is a historical north pole star.
 

PeteACarter

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Jaiotu said:
I have to agree with the penguin on this. Points 2 and 3 can hardly be taken as a given.

And yet there are plenty of reasons for this thread to exist that go beyond those principles. For one, several regular contributors to this thread (myself included) began other threads related to Raxxla that had a slightly different focus but we all kind of agreed to consolidate the discussion into this one. Not all of us are searching for Raxxla for the same reasons.

I, for one, suspect that Raxxla does exist in the game but that there must be reasons why it simply cannot be found right now. I think it is either permit locked or otherwise obfuscated from the galaxy map. Possibly a system that can only be seen in the Nav panel and doesn't get displayed on the map. Much like the Zurara, which was originally just a derelict Anaconda, Raxxla will be more impressive down the road when the game is more mature. If Raxxla turns out to be an Earth-like world I certainly don't want to find it until I can land on it and explore the surface.

Meanwhile there is still plenty of value in discussing Raxxla. Current speculation regarding what little we do know will likely apply toward actually finding Raxxla later on ... and, of course, I could be 100% wrong about my assumptions. Maybe Raxxla is already out there, fully realized, and just waiting for one of us to finally crack the code and find it. And so we dutifully hop into the thread and post our latest musings.
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I know there is a good chance you are right here....I hope your not! :)

There is part of me that still thinks it's on New Thebes, which has an atmosphere, and that's why we cant fund it.

I have no problem with different opinions, including we might not be able to get there yet.

My frustration came from the fact that, on this thread, we are all working hard, sharing ideas, having fun, playing with everything from Greek myths to ciphers, and I personally don't believe that "your all wasting your time" style comments would arise from people who are using this thread in the spirit in which it was intended, or had any goals other than spoiling other people's enjoyment :)
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
DrewCarnegie said:
It's true, I'm actually Drew Wagar and I got David drunk one night on peach schnapps and he told me where Raxxla is. When you find it you'll see it tagged by Cmdr Salome.

Honestly, I'm glad I've finally admitted it. Things all got a bit meta when I was talking about writing about myself in the third (fourth?) person on a livestream a while ago.

And at least I can get rid of this stupid penguin avatar.



Disclaimer:
Some of the above may not be entirely accurate.
But the penguin is definitely stupid.
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Aww
The penguin has character!
(Or is that fernweh I see in its eye?)
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
PeteACarter said:
I know there is a good chance you are right here....I hope your not! :)

There is part of me that still thinks it's on New Thebes, which has an atmosphere, and that's why we cant fund it.

I have no problem with different opinions, including we might not be able to get there yet.

My frustration came from the fact that, on this thread, we are all working hard, sharing ideas, having fun, playing with everything from Greek myths to ciphers, and I personally don't believe that "your all wasting your time" style comments would arise from people who are using this thread in the spirit in which it was intended, or had any goals other than spoiling other people's enjoyment :)
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Yeah ... I just had someone post a comment on my YouTube channel the other day blabbing about how Raxxla is a fake, blah, blah, blah. I usually react the same way each time I encounter this: I ignore and don't respond.
 

Jaiotu

Jaiotu
Han_Zen said:
I think the most fitting for the spiraling stars, would be the different pole stars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star

If you pick any one of them and watch it for 25,770 years, you will see it spiral slowly out to about 40° declination and back in to the center of earth's axis at 90° declination(The Ophalos point / Axis Mundi). All of them will move in this extremely slow spiral.

This would also fit nicely with Vega as princess Astrophel, as Vega is a historical north pole star.
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Spiraling stars? North star? Just point your camera at Polaris and set it for timelapse:
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Of course the ultimate spiraling stars orbit around Sagittarius A*:
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Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jaiotu said:
Spiraling stars? North star? Just point your camera at Polaris and set it for timelapse:
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Of course the ultimate spiraling stars orbit around Sagittarius A*:
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All stars move in circles seen from a defined view point. Spiraling on the other hand suggests a movement where the next revolution is larger or smaler, depending on the direction. Either that or a movement perpendicular to the rotational direction.

The Cambridge dictionary defines a spiral as: "a shape made up of curves, each one above or wider than the one before"

In earths sky, only the stars that are on the 'pole star circle', will make a complete spiral that reaches the axis mundi. All the others will have a smaller and a larger circle, but they never become stationary in the sky.

The northern pole star circle.
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Jaiotu

Jaiotu
“Every star in the night sky exists in Elite: Dangerous” — Braben

... I may have found something interesting but I won't have a chance to get into the game for several hours to verify it for myself. I'll have to fire up my frame shift drive and Hiciacet's python script and find out if there is a star sitting where I think it is. I can't find it in EDSM by its real-world name(s) but maybe Frontier has just given it a different name. Its part of the Teapot asterism: Alnasl AKA Gamma 2 Sagittarii, 10 Sgr, LTT 7181, HD 165135, HIP 88635, 2MASS J18054848-3025265. The Teapot asterism is also home to Tau Sagittarii which is the closest visible star to the source of the Wow! Signal (which you've heard me opine about tracing the signal as a possible beacon for Raxxla).

Edit: And, lo and behold, there is Alnasl in the lower left quarter of the image yelboc just posted!
 
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PeteACarter

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PeteACarter said:
I know there is a good chance you are right here....I hope your not! :)

There is part of me that still thinks it's on New Thebes, which has an atmosphere, and that's why we cant fund it.

I have no problem with different opinions, including we might not be able to get there yet.

My frustration came from the fact that, on this thread, we are all working hard, sharing ideas, having fun, playing with everything from Greek myths to ciphers, and I personally don't believe that "your all wasting your time" style comments would arise from people who are using this thread in the spirit in which it was intended, or had any goals other than spoiling other people's enjoyment :)
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Yeah. I should have done. I now have an ignore list, with the Penguin and one other user, who started at the same time.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
Jaiotu said:
“Every star in the night sky exists in Elite: Dangerous” — Braben

... I may have found something interesting but I won't have a chance to get into the game for several hours to verify it for myself. I'll have to fire up my frame shift drive and Hiciacet's python script and find out if there is a star sitting where I think it is. I can't find it in EDSM by its real-world name(s) but maybe Frontier has just given it a different name. Its part of the Teapot asterism: Alnasl AKA Gamma 2 Sagittarii, 10 Sgr, LTT 7181, HD 165135, HIP 88635, 2MASS J18054848-3025265. The Teapot asterism is also home to Tau Sagittarii which is the closest visible star to the source of the Wow! Signal (which you've heard me opine about tracing the signal as a possible beacon for Raxxla).

Edit: And, lo and behold, there is Alnasl in the lower left quarter of the image yelboc just posted!
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In ED it's called 'Nash'.
https://www.edsm.net/en/system/id/34103/name/Nash

Single star. No planets or stations.
 

PeteACarter

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Jaiotu said:
“Every star in the night sky exists in Elite: Dangerous” — Braben

... I may have found something interesting but I won't have a chance to get into the game for several hours to verify it for myself. I'll have to fire up my frame shift drive and Hiciacet's python script and find out if there is a star sitting where I think it is. I can't find it in EDSM by its real-world name(s) but maybe Frontier has just given it a different name. Its part of the Teapot asterism: Alnasl AKA Gamma 2 Sagittarii, 10 Sgr, LTT 7181, HD 165135, HIP 88635, 2MASS J18054848-3025265. The Teapot asterism is also home to Tau Sagittarii which is the closest visible star to the source of the Wow! Signal (which you've heard me opine about tracing the signal as a possible beacon for Raxxla).

Edit: And, lo and behold, there is Alnasl in the lower left quarter of the image yelboc just posted!
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Good work
 

[Diplomacy] Carnegie

[Diplomacy] Carnegie
Han_Zen said:
I think the most fitting for the spiraling stars, would be the different pole stars: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pole_star

If you pick any one of them and watch it for 25,770 years, you will see it spiral slowly out to about 40° declination and back in to the center of earth's axis at 90° declination(The Ophalos point / Axis Mundi). All of them will move in this extremely slow spiral.

This would also fit nicely with Vega as princess Astrophel, as Vega is a historical north pole star.
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I think it just means the galaxy. 'Spiraling stars' being stars arranged in a spiral, rather than moving in spirals.

However, an example of a star which does follow an actual spiral would be one gradually falling into a black hole. A decaying orbit forms a spiral path.

stares hard a Source 2 again
 
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