Could Frontier please demonstrate how to use the FSS enjoyably?

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Statement 1: Sucks to be the one of the 10 people who don't like the FSS.

Statement 2: We read the same 10 people posting the same thing over and over for months and we've decided that it sucks to be you 10 people.

I guess you're stuck with EBL then, and that FDev are okay with a thousand people stopping playing the game.

Since we're apparently such a small proportion of the playerbase, I'm impressed that FDev identified us 'traveling explorers' as one of their categories.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

You get a tag from it like you did before, its just a different name. The information in the old DSS is neither here or there as it doesn't hold any valuable in-game meaning. I suppose the only meaningful information it gave was whether the planet was volcanic, but as the process for finding anything on the surface was so tedious I pretty much ignored that anyway.


It is entirely up to you what you do. FDev give you the tools, use them how you want to. If you want to parallax, go for it. Its why its called a sandbox.

The tag I got was First Discovered. Now I get that from the FSS. The new DSS gives me the new FIrst Mapped tag.

So the FSS encapsulates all the old DSS behavior. The new DSS adds new behavior. Once again, that's not 'a bit of both'.

So you agree, I have fun by not using the tool the way it was intended.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

The tag I got was First Discovered. Now I get that from the FSS. The new DSS gives me the new FIrst Mapped tag.

Yes I said that. But at the end of the day they are both tags.

So the FSS encapsulates all the old DSS behavior. The new DSS adds new behavior. Once again, that's not 'a bit of both'.

Not the behavoir, but it does give the same pointless information as the old DSS. So what.

So you agree, I have fun by not using the tool the way it was intended.

How is it not as intended. You have fun using the tools the way you want to use them, which I am sure is FDev's intention.

 

[Spaceman Si]

Statement 1: Sucks to be the one of the 10 people who don't like the FSS.

Statement 2: We read the same 10 people posting the same thing over and over for months and we've decided that it sucks to be you 10 people.

Probably sucks to be the 1 person that gets stuck with EBL as well

The <x> number of people might be the ones that continue to express their displeasure with the situation, even if some of them have adapted to it (albeit reluctantly), but there are always others who put in a single post and then disappear. Just because 1 or 10 people are the only visible ones that complain does not make them the entire subset.

 

[WR3ND]

Probably sucks to be the 1 person that gets stuck with EBL as well

The <x> number of people might be the ones that continue to express their displeasure with the situation, even if some of them have adapted to it (albeit reluctantly), but there are always others who put in a single post and then disappear. Just because 1 or 10 people are the only visible ones that complain does not make them the entire subset.

How does that help denigrate anyone? You're missing the point. ☺

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Yes I said that. But at the end of the day they are both tags.

This is in no way relevant to whether the FSS subsumed the old DSS

How is it not as intended. You have fun using the tools the way you want to use them, which I am sure is FDev's intention.

If FDev wanted me to have fun using the tools the way I want to use them, then we'd still have the ADS.

 

[Old Duck]

Probably sucks to be the 1 person that gets stuck with EBL as well

It does! It really, really does. Though there are more than one of us, we they are just not as vocal about it as you lot.

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

It does! It really, really does. Though there are more than one of us, we they are just not as vocal about it as you lot.

On the plus side, you at least still have hope to cling to

 

[Spaceman Si]

Though there are more than one of us, we they are just not as vocal about it as you lot.

Q.E.D

The corollary specious statement is that "It is the same 5 people that pop up to tell everyone that doesn't like it that they are wrong and that the FSS is unassailably magnificent". I'm sure there are more than 5 really, they just aren't as vocal

 

[Old Duck]

I guess you're stuck with EBL then,

I have no doubt. There's not even a PS4 team anymore - they all went to work on Planet Coaster, which isn't even a PS4 title! I gave up all hope when 3.3 dropped and it wasn't fixed despite the patch notes. Still, I will remind Frontier on occasion about their colossal failure in this regard.

and that FDev are okay with a thousand people stopping playing the game.

Frontier is a scattered, leaderless mess of a company these days. I don't think they even know what they are okay with anymore. As long as Braben has gas for his yacht, that's all that matters.

That said, I still think the FSS is great

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Frontier is a scattered, leaderless mess of a company these days. I don't think they even know what they are okay with anymore.

Gives one such high hopes for the 'new era' doesn't it?

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

That said, I still think the FSS is great

Only because you can't see the EBL

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

This is in no way relevant to whether the FSS subsumed the old DSS

Of course it is. The main reason to fly to a planet and scan it was for tags and credits, just like the current DSS, except the current DSS can give you something useful unlike the old one, so it now has even more purpose.

If FDev wanted me to have fun using the tools the way I want to use them, then we'd still have the ADS.

Those tools don't exist anymore. I am talking about the tools that are currently in the game. Use them how you want to in a manner that you enjoy. I am sure FDev intended that.

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Frontier is a scattered, leaderless mess of a company these days. I don't think they even know what they are okay with anymore. As long as Braben has gas for his yacht, that's all that matters.

They seem to be doing rather well for a scattered, leaderless mess of a company.

 

[WR3ND]

Only because you can't see the EBL

I'm still trying to wrap my head around why people generally seem to like to go "exploring" (in game terms) in bloatatoes in the first place. Maybe just the convenience of faster travel and ambitions of discovering something better, further out than the last guy on the fringes.

While I wouldn't care for this to turn into a "survival" (resource and time micromanagement) game, I do get the feeling that exploration is perhaps expected too much to be a passive, inconsequential affair instead of being something that takes place in a dynamic and somewhat unpredictable environment.

First-person action exploration as apposed to dialing in the same bits and bobs thousands and thousands of times over again is more my speed.

YMMV

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

Of course it is. The main reason to fly to a planet and scan it was for tags and credits, just like the current DSS, except the current DSS can give you something useful unlike the old one, so it now has even more purpose.

You're talking about reasons, I'm talking about the functionality.

 

[Hanerib]

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[-VR- Max Factor]

You're talking about reasons, I'm talking about the functionality.

And what was the function of an old style DSS scan in ED, to get tags, credits and some useless information. The function of the new DSS is to get tags, credit and some useful information.

You said they don't have the same function, well I am sorry, but they do.

Maybe we are using the word for different meaning, mine is: an activity that is natural to or the purpose of a person or thing. i.e: "bridges perform the function of providing access across water", it's purpose. (noun)

I think you are meaning: work or operate in a proper or particular way. (verb)

Both are correct, so that could be where the confusion lies.

 

[WR3ND]

Where did I put that... Ah, here we go...

Spoiler

 

[-VR- Max Factor]

Where did I put that... Ah, here we go...

Spoiler

I would, but I am at work.