PvP THE END OF THE GRIEFER OF WYRD AFTER 2000 VICTIMS

[ryan_m]

The amount of heat vented scales with the amount heat generated by the laser. A lightweight mod will generate more heat than an efficient so therefore it will dispel more heat from your ship than the efficient. The lightweight mod is also better because you get more speed. I'm too lazy to engineer so I kept my efficient mod instead of lightweight. Efficient works well enough for me.... but then I am comparatively a "bad" pvper. lmao

The critical part about lightweight is it has a distro bonus of 35%.

Thanks for the reply. What do you run then? Is it a 4 rail 1 beam fdl too? Gotta say it's fun, I like rails.

This is the build I use

 

[Sethiest]

Is that a meta build in terms of optionals? Because I see people use two 4 SCBs as well?

 

[ryan_m]

Is that a meta build in terms of optionals? Because I see people use two 4 SCBs as well?

Can't really run this build with SCBs because of the plant (LE5). I have a build that runs SCBs with an armored plant but it runs way hotter.

 

[Sethiest]

Yeah with the normal 3 PA 2 Rails combo Ive seen SCB running a lot. I think. Could you maybe a 1 4HR and 1 SCB hybrid? I wonder if the beam laser can negate a SCB charge lol.

 

[Slange Lands]

Thanks for the reply. What do you run then? Is it a 4 rail 1 beam fdl too? Gotta say it's fun, I like rails.

Yup, It's a rail de lance. But I am simply not good enough yet to fly it in real PvP because the build is very squishy. I still a lot of stuff to learn, but that's okay! It's fun!

o7

 

[Sethiest]

Same boat. Maybe one day we can dual and hit none of our rail shots.

 

[ryan_m]

Yeah with the normal 3 PA 2 Rails combo Ive seen SCB running a lot. I think. Could you maybe a 1 4HR and 1 SCB hybrid? I wonder if the beam laser can negate a SCB charge lol.

It can, actually, but you have to single bank and be REALLY careful with your heat before you bank. Have to bleed off some heat before starting and have 100% ToT with the beam while it's charging.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

You normally use the SCBs before shields collapse.

That's an ideal case yes though I've often droped shields before I can regenerate them.

 

[ryan_m]

That's an ideal case yes though I've often droped shields before I can regenerate them.

Bank earlier. In most builds, your SCBs won't be replacing more than half your shields, so you prep your banks at 2 rings and fire at 50% or higher.

 

[cmdr Ramius007]

It can, actually, but you have to single bank and be REALLY careful with your heat before you bank. Have to bleed off some heat before starting and have 100% ToT with the beam while it's charging.

i tried this in pvp, it never work if somebody have cascade rail, and i used to cook myself with less than 100% ToT with beam

 

[Sethiest]

i tried this in pvp, it never work if somebody have cascade rail, and i used to cook myself with less than 100% ToT with beam

I think if I ran this build https://s.orbis.zone/3q7p I wouldn't pull people that have rails and/or I felt I couldn't out manoeuvre them. I like the build because its super easy to switch out the SCB for another HR.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Bank earlier. In most builds, your SCBs won't be replacing more than half your shields, so you prep your banks at 2 rings and fire at 50% or higher.

I deploy two in a row.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

That's an ideal case yes though I've often droped shields before I can regenerate them.

I deploy two in a row.

If your shields are dropping your SCB strategy clearly isn't optimal. Perhaps it's time to find a way to deploy one at a time?

 

[Shinji Ikari]

If your shields are dropping your SCB strategy clearly isn't optimal. Perhaps it's time to find a way to deploy one at a time?

I deploy two at once to use a single heatsink. In 1v1 they didn't drop, the issue was in wing attacks.

 

[CMDR Cknarf]

Not gonna lie I’m kinda drunk right now

But I’m super interested in helping Greg figure out what’s up or whatever r

Let me get like, a synopsis real quick

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

I deploy two at once to use a single heatsink.

Ever tried hot banking? That's banking without a heat sink.

Not gonna lie I’m kinda drunk right now

But I’m super interested in helping Greg figure out what’s up or whatever r

Let me get like, a synopsis real quick

See above. I think that may be the issue?

 

[Sethiest]

I deploy two at once to use a single heatsink.

Do you pop one, then heat sync, then when heat reaches 0, pop the 2nd one? That's what I did on the corvette to go from 50% up to 100% with one heat synce and two SCBs.

 

[CMDR Cknarf]

I double bank successfully all the time l.

He might just be banking too late.

That’s cost me a fight or two before.

 

[Morbad]

Do you pop one, then heat sync, then when heat reaches 0, pop the 2nd one? That's what I did on the corvette to go from 50% up to 100% with one heat synce and two SCBs.

That will control the heat load of SCBs most effectively, but it also telegraphs the second SCB, which will be feedback cascaded into near nothingness, even if they are too slow to catch the first one.

Unless I know I'm not facing feedback cascade, I'll either make sure I've got enough sinks for each charge, or simply take some heat damage...dumping both charges simultaneously and being sent to ~200% heat is usually much safer than losing the second charge.

 

[Shinji Ikari]

Ever tried hot banking? That's banking without a heat sink.

No, I presume you need a couple of MRPs to absorb the damage.