Ah, the joys of membership in an extralegal organization like the Pilots Federation.
Ah, the joys of membership in an extralegal organization like the Pilots Federation.
. . . As he says to the most accurate pilot in the game.
Wait I did'nt think deZpe was in this thread?...
Oh yeah, getting your plant shot out by deZpe is a special form of art
Oh yeah, getting your plant shot out by deZpe is a special form of art
Yeah, his reverski, railgun aim has downed many a pilot. Credit to the pilots who have taken his bait and chased him without deflection.
You're welcome.
Wait don't you use an SLF aimbot?
Hey, gotta' give it to me for making my haters come out of the crack to rejuvenate it with their anger!
So, yes. You're welcome.
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Why? They were dumb.
Hey, gotta' give it to me for making my haters come out of the crack to rejuvenate it with their anger!
So, yes. You're welcome.
No hate matey.
ED is plenty choc a block of good pilots on every platform, just pointing out that you aint all that.
Aww come on Falter, just because I said deZpe is good with rails that doesn't mean I somehow question your flying skills.
Didn't have the fun of getting owned by you yet, so I can't really compare, but you running around telling everyone you're the best isn't helping either
Wait don't you use an SLF aimbot?
Aww come on Falter, just because I said deZpe is good with rails that doesn't mean I somehow question your flying skills.
Didn't have the fun of getting owned by you yet, so I can't really compare, but you running around telling everyone you're the best isn't helping either
No hate matey.
ED is plenty choc a block of good pilots on every platform, just pointing out that you aint all that.
Wouldn't say it if I couldn't prove it / has been proven / is easily proven/ IS why I get hated on.
Wait haven't I run into you though? I could have sworn I have. Or... am I confusing you for another CMDR with a similar name? (Probably the latter.)
Hitscan being "good aim" from a reverski pilot does sound like a bad joke though. Hitscan being considered "good aim" at all, a really, really bad joke!
Besides, "like reactions" kinda' tell the story. Same with who showed up, and why.
Baron Von Richthofen was well known for being an excellent marksman and tactician but only a competent pilot. Just 'cause someone's a reverski scrub doesn't make the shot any less impressive when they delete your plant from 5km out.
No hate matey.
ED is plenty choc a block of good pilots on every platform, just pointing out that you aint all that.
'Nuff said. Wouldn't want to say the obvious, so I must imply the obvious.
This just in : META considers reverski high skill and how to gauge "accuracy."
Wait!!!!
We already all knew that. That's why they have to use FDL's and ban modules / weapons / effects to do their "legit PVP tournaments"
(Which, is an even bigger joke unto itself.)
Shield crutch, reverski crutch, hitscan "accuracy," flying in a straight line in 4/0/2 says what?
When did META become 13th Leg---oh! I forgot, it already was. Silly me, tee hee.
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you know though that the more the distance is the easier it is.
the minigimbal effect which strikes in on the module is totally overpowered and should be deleted on rails completely imho. then module sniping would be a question of skill.
Maybe I don't get out enough, but I don't see many people confusing a demonstration of some superior ability in some aspect of piloting to be reason to hate someone.
In your particular case, an acerbic manner and making hypocritically inaccurate claims about others is almost certainly why you perceive you're 'hated on' in retaliation, not anything your CMDR does that doesn't involve comms.
Not that I think reverski is generally a sound tactic, because the easiest counter is to simiply stop chasing, but if something is working, it's working.
Anyway, I don't think I've ever lost a ship in PvP to powerplant damage, and it's getting harder to imagine it happening as the game evolves. That new class 1 module slot they gave every ship means that essentially all of my CMDR's vessels have ~50% thermic and kinetic hull resistances...combined with ~300 PP integrity on most mediums and MRPs, this is a whole lot of railgun hits.
Well, at long range, it would become more of a question of luck than anything, but it would still improve the game by reigning in engagement distances and making shields-down combat more viable in general.
I'd remove it on everything...the microgimbal ranges from annoying at short range (it can actually interfere with aim) to comically overpowered at extreme ranges. A fixed weapon should fire where it's pointed.
Im starting to think you percieve critisicim as hate because it stings your ego there my dear..
Oh I agree, banning stuff in PvP tourneys is a little stupid, though healies should definatly not be allowed. To be honest though I do think a fair PvP league would disallow the prismo FDL given that is the very essence of imbalance in this game at the moment.
But also, a small aimbot that has near on 100% accuracy flying round whilst kicking out near C4 hardpoint DPS is also a crutch, but apples and oranges at this point innit.
So he reverse i stop chasing, then he stop reverse i start boosting, he start reversing again so i reverse too, at some point we are out of each other sensors range, amazing gameplay! To win just take same rails or LR APA or (best) take ship with class 7 distributor with those weapons or some 4000mj behemoth, oh wait he is in phantom.
So we have 300 power plant integrity and 5d mrp for another 350 in ship that have 4000+ armour, now sipmle question, at what hull integrity i no longer have power plant? And this is hulltank, in i m in bi-weave FDL or other ship that cant really take big mrp and i had to delay banking for some time, maybe cause i was under cascade rails fire from reversky cmdr?
I agree reverski is not a problem, reverse speed is and it make 0 reason even in very simplified space flight mechanic, cause we see that ships have worse reverse thrust. And it's absurdly bad gameplay that take away viability to use turrets on large ships and make fights boring and or force 1 side to run away in a lot of cases(like seekers against current pd and ecm), not mentioned but reverski flying is actually another rock paper scissors bulll**** in this game, just take a build that can counter reverski or low wake.
Didn't say I liked the gameplay, just that it's possible not to play into reverski.
Depends on a lot of factors. For most of my hull focused ships, the hull is going to run out before the PP is destroyed, unless I just let myself be kited around and take completely unevaded shots to the plant the whole time.
It's even less an issue with something like a hybrid FDL that tops out around 2-2.5k hull, but can have similar resistances and PP integrity.
Don't need reverse thrust to reverski.
Reverski will exist as long as FA off exists, because any thrust vector can easily be used to move opposite the direction the ship is facing.
Are you going to tell me that you can evade hitscan weapons, maybe i can dodge hitscan weapon used on reversing ship too?
Sorry but i would love to know who are your opponents, my experience in FAS with normal weapons against experienced cmdrs in rails builds like dengerous.com or dezpe is that i had no power plant, FSD, distributor, shields and some other modules with more than 50+% hull left, i know they are top pilots, but against average reverski you still lose modules loooong before you lose all hull integrity, and i m giving b--weave FAS as example, not dropship or pvp big ship.
PS. I volunteer to duel you and make videos on all topics we clash our opinions, i'm on pc, i can take reverski 4rails phantom vs your favorite hybrid or hull tank, i can also test your anti seeker tactics with heat sinks, tlb or whatever light defence you like that is not triple ecm or double point defence with good arcs vs my small ship with single small seeker launcher, or even test your favorite ship with shock cannons to prove that they are not competitive against engineered alternatives. If i m wrong i admit i m not only worse poster on this forum but also lackluster pvper at best
In general, if I'm not spending protracted periods of time in that 2.5-6km range where the microgimbal effect outdoes manuver, I can make enough rail hits miss the module they are pointed at to push the hull back to being the limiting factor, yes.
I know some people do very well with the FAS, but I've never really liked it and it's probably one of the vessels most vulnerable to the tactics you mention because it doesn't accelerate particularly well and, fully loaded, isn't that fast. I consider it an outlier though.
PS. I volunteer to duel you and make videos on all topics we clash our opinions, i'm on pc, i can take reverski 4rails phantom vs your favorite hybrid or hull tank, i can also test your anti seeker tactics with heat sinks, tlb or whatever light defence you like that is not triple ecm or double point defence with good arcs vs my small ship with single small seeker launcher, or even test your favorite ship with shock cannons to prove that they are not competitive against engineered alternatives. If i m wrong i admit i m not only worse poster on this forum but also lackluster pvper at best
I'm willing to attempt to demonstrate my points, though any fight against a rail phantom would be extremely protracted as I unless I'm in a faster vessel, I absolutely would not chase it. Also, I never claimed that shock cannon were competitive with Engineered alternatives...I said they shouldn't be; I'm willing to try to include them in a PvP build, however. A single seeker rack is easily countered by a single PDT and that can certainly be demonstrated without much difficulty.
Anyway, my CMDR is frequently in the LHS 20 or Eranin areas. I'll add you.
Edit: I'm going to build a FAS for this as that's the vessel you seem to prefer and the debate is largely over how practical it is to withstand module damage from rails and seekers on vessels that either have no shields, or that lose shielding early and often. It's also been too long since I've flown the thing and it sounds like an interesting challenge.
Added you to my CMDR's friend's list (probably the only Backer # pending). Should be free sometime Saturday or Sunday.
Edit2: Ha, had completely forgotten that all the FASes utilities were on the underside...that will make things interesting. Also reminds me why I never liked the ship.
Edit3: Have a usable build going now. PDT coverage is actually pretty good and I'm pretty confident in the module protection area. Only major concerns I have are with the basic flight model of the ship and it's the reason I've generally avoided using the FAS and Cheiftain variants...too focused on rotationals, but not enough vertical/lateral thrust. I understand why KBM users like these ships, but they aren't suited to my controls or preferences. Yaw is far too sensive and I feel severely handicapped without being able to effectively sidestep without boost. Anyway, none of that should be a problem with regard to this demonstration. Best thing about the FAS is that it's completely turned me off of building another chieftain because I know I had the same complaints...then again that's what I said about the FAS the last time I built a chief.
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