Cobra Mk 4: open it up for everyone to buy this Xmas during Special Effect Livestream

you have been saying this over and over. people want the moon. and i want a small mamba already!

Except this is quite achievable with whats about.

exclusivity might or might not have been wrong but your idea doesn't make it any better, but worse. how is modifying the exclusivity parameters ex post any better? you realize it would still be exclusive? that all those who wouldn't be able (or bother) to attend the livestream would still whine? "final chance"? what final chance? final chance was in 2016 when the exclusive was announced! you want another final chance in 2019? but only for good samaritans (that's supposed to be a plus and make things right i guess)?. what about the next final chance in 2022? will that really be final final?

Some chance that is well communicated is enough. Then you can legitimately say you missed the boat. If its on the launcher window like the festive countdown skins then there is no excuse is there?

if you at least advocated to make it available for all that could even make sense. but thus you're just jumping into a rabbit hole here.

But it is for everyone, whoever donates gets access.

because there is no path out, except completely voiding exclusivity and making it free for all. see above.

Or make it count for something- LEP holders threw money at FD to get the CM4, now you ask for a nominal donation to a good cause and get the same.

that's only your (very respectable) opinion. people will (very respectably) disagree and there's your drama again. besides 2 wrongs don't make 1 right.

Like that makes a difference in this place?

there is one other sensible option: do nothing about it, keep it exclusive.

You could, which would be a shame and a waste.

again, what about the next day, when the whining becomes again unbearable?

Then you can say "you missed it", but having a chance is better than not having one at all. Some people did not get a say in it first time round.

and, actually, i really doubt this is a real problem for frontier. some there might regret the exclusive, some not. personally i bet many there are laughing their arxes off with this, but it is definitely not hurting them. i speculate the opposite is the case. people moaning about the damn cobra4 is definitely still people keeping talking about things elite, right? it fills the long wait, maybe it's just the kind of oddity that someone might find to be more inciting than anything else.

Its never a problem for FD because they can sit and do nothing. I thought it would be a nice opportunity to get something good out of it.
 
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Let me know if you do, and I'll be sure to follow you.
No chance at all if you weren't an original backer.
Unless FDev change that and release it to others. Which is the point that's being gone over and over and over on all these threads. "No chance at all" is one point of view, but it doesn't seem to have ended the debate, strangely.
 
i speculate the opposite is the case. people moaning about the damn cobra4 is definitely still people keeping talking about things elite, right? it fills the long wait, maybe it's just the kind of oddity that someone might find to be more inciting than anything else.
I get the impession it is the forum community management team laying down salt for the winter. :giggle:
 
Let me know if you do, and I'll be sure to follow you.

Unless FDev change that and release it to others. Which is the point that's being gone over and over and over on all these threads. "No chance at all" is one point of view, but it doesn't seem to have ended the debate, strangely.
There is no debate.
It's one "I WANT" thread after another.
 
I think I'm the only person who is being reasonable here so for that reason fdev should let me fly the ship only. I will then feed back my experiences. We'll take it in turns. An hour each.
You need at least a day to properly engineer it. And then you'd still have no time to use it.
No chance at all if you weren't an original backer.
I noticed a few times already that you got that bit wrong. Being an original backer has nothing to do with the Cobra IV at all, it was for preordering Horizons within a certain timeframe.
 
And I said that's not enough to judge it :D
Haha, I'm only playing.

Fdev should just unlock it. They'll survive the faux outcry that, evidently from these threads, will happen.

I stand by my OG opinion. Just a ship. I really dont get why the people who pre ordered the DLC care too much because it was so long ago it came out. So much life and change happens in all that time.
 
I really dont get why the people who pre ordered the DLC care too much because it was so long ago it came out. So much life and change happens in all that time.
The argument is that because Frontier said a thing several years ago that thing represents a binding contract, a mandate that cannot be overridden even by the parties who initially signed the contract. Whether or not the offer that was made and the act of taking up the offer actually constitute a 'contract' of any meaningful sort is another issue.

But the main thrust is that it doesn't matter if conditions have changed over the last three years, or whatever; it doesn't matter whether the parties involved have now changed their minds. What was said then is now and forever inviolable writ and, no matter what the changes or disadvantages that have since or may still come to light, the original terms cannot and must not be altered lest the entire concept of trust itself is irrevocably destroyed.

Actually, that...

Hmmm. :unsure:

No, sorry. Carry on.
 
The argument is that because Frontier said a thing several years ago that thing represents a binding contract, a mandate that cannot be overridden even by the parties who initially signed the contract. Whether or not the offer that was made and the act of taking up the offer actually constitute a 'contract' of any meaningful sort is another issue.

But the main thrust is that it doesn't matter if conditions have changed over the last three years, or whatever; it doesn't matter whether the parties involved have now changed their minds. What was said then is now and forever inviolable writ and, no matter what the changes or disadvantages that have since or may still come to light, the original terms cannot and must not be altered lest the entire concept of trust itself is irrevocably destroyed.

Actually, that...

Hmmm. :unsure:

No, sorry. Carry on.
Because of my experiences with the internet, I cant tell if you're joking?
 
Because of my experiences with the internet, I cant tell if you're joking?
My apologies. I'll try to do better. You asked:
I really dont get why the people who pre ordered the DLC care too much because it was so long ago it came out. So much life and change happens in all that time.
The argument I have seen most often is that the ship cannot be unlocked for everyone because FDev initially provided it as an incentive and stated it would be exclusive to those who qualified. Those who object to the release of the ship assert that removing that exclusivity at this stage would render the initial incentive meaningless and completely undermine FDev's reputation for trustworthiness and honesty.

I hope that reply is less ambiguous.
 
The argument is that because Frontier said a thing several years ago that thing represents a binding contract, a mandate that cannot be overridden even by the parties who initially signed the contract. Whether or not the offer that was made and the act of taking up the offer actually constitute a 'contract' of any meaningful sort is another issue.

But the main thrust is that it doesn't matter if conditions have changed over the last three years, or whatever; it doesn't matter whether the parties involved have now changed their minds. What was said then is now and forever inviolable writ and, no matter what the changes or disadvantages that have since or may still come to light, the original terms cannot and must not be altered lest the entire concept of trust itself is irrevocably destroyed.

Actually, that...

Hmmm. :unsure:

No, sorry. Carry on.

Because of my experiences with the internet, I cant tell if you're joking?

The above facts, have been pointed out, a number of times; in all of these Cobra IV threads. Just because people don't like, or choose to ignore, said facts. Does not make them any less valid.

That said: Someone pointed out that probably none of us who agreed to said contract, can find any written evidence, of said contract.
 
My apologies. I'll try to do better. You asked:

The argument I have seen most often is that the ship cannot be unlocked for everyone because FDev initially provided it as an incentive and stated it would be exclusive to those who qualified. Those who object to the release of the ship assert that removing that exclusivity at this stage would render the initial incentive meaningless and completely undermine FDev's reputation for trustworthiness and honesty.

I hope that reply is less ambiguous.

Thank you. You was serious.

What I dont understand is it's importance after such a long time.
 
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