The Star Citizen Thread V10

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CIG: Presenting out new even bigger carrier* ship with 32 bays and can be configured** for various roles such as mining*, combat*, or exploration**. Ship is currently in concept stage[/B][/B]. $3000. Warbond only!

* carrier mechanics not yet implemented
** to be implemented
*** tier 0!!!!
**** revised flight model, awaiting Item 3.0, dependent on SSOCS and server meshing as the ship is soooo big it crosses server boundaries! ITS ALPHA!!!
* ok, we admit it, we have no clue about this
** What? Another concept ship that still isn't developed? How long do you think these rubes will continue to fall for this? What do you mean i've got voice to text running? Oh for Chris' sake!

(Ugh, BB code automatically changing double asterisk into bold.... oh well, just roll with it)

You have some inside info on what is being released tomorrow??????? :)

https://robertsspaceindustries.com/...read/aug-24th-aegis-surprise-what-could-it-be
 
Who are you to tell me what I do and do not need?
Seriously Havvk...you're starting to lose me a bit with all the Chris Roberts fanboi speak here. At best he's a complete incompetent...clearly demonstrated by his history as a game developer and part time movie director.

Somehow, I don't go with the 'at best' explaination myself, I'd more go for sleazy snake oil salesman preying on others pointless dreaming to line his own pockets.
 
A 'catered' event (sandwiches?) and the opportunity for a Q&A for $275, really? The only people who will pay that are those who are already assimilated and will be a nice safe audience. An open forum type event which could be attended by anyone is obviously not something he would relish. What an utter coward.
Honestly, the guys a game industry version of a TV evangleist.
 
Seriously Havvk...you're starting to lose me a bit with all the Chris Roberts fanboi speak here. At best he's a complete incompetent...clearly demonstrated by his history as a game developer and part time movie director.

Somehow, I don't go with the 'at best' explaination myself, I'd more go for sleazy snake oil salesman preying on others pointless dreaming to line his own pockets.
I'm not a fanboi. I'm just not stupid is all
 
Personally, we need a game that doesn't hold anything back. I'm personally sick and tired of seeing games that only do "just enough" for what you can do in it and such. I want a game that's like a blend of Elite: Dangerous, Eve Online, and X4 but better than all of them combined at their best. SC, as of right now, is the only thing I ever heard of that's at least trying. Elite Dangerous can never get better graphics and other things because they have to "hold back" for the consoles. Know what I mean?

Sure do. We all want more. The scammers know that the best.....thats why they usually come up with a topic that we all yearn for. Star Citizen being a prime example for this. At first Star Citizen sounded ambitious but doable...exactly what the community wanted at the time. It provided a mouth-dropping trailer and CRoberts came across charismatic and honest on stage. Eventually the goalposts had to be moved because due to the delays competing games were able to creep closer and closer to what the original SC tried to accomplish and thats when it all truly landed in lala-land. I m pretty sure CRoberts had to realize at some point that he cannot deliver what he promised but that didnt stop him from keep running his own money-printing machine. Just deny or ignore all mistakes and shortcomings, lie your behind off in order to keep the backers on the hook and just keep going...regardless what it takes.

7 years later all that is shot to shreds. The game from the past is dead, replaced by a monstrosity that seems impossible to achieve, too bloated, too demanding on hardware and engine alike and even worse....the developers as well as the head honcho dont seem to have a firm grasp on how to proceed nor where they want to go to.

Sure the "dream" has kept evolving into an incredible version that the current PTU cannot keep nor provide. People have mostly moved away from "technical superiority" and trying to claim the title of BDSSE to simple "fun" instead which is cheap to use, doesnt take a lot to justify and can describe almost anything...including kicking each other into the genitals.

So you see...if a scammer recognizes what people wants he simply promises that and tries to make it appear like its possible. In Star Citizens case each factor reinforced the other. First the idea which lead to a successful kickstarter. And the level of success supported the original game even more because a game that only wanted 2 million dollars but got 65 instead.....what can possibly go wrong right? CIG rode on that success by touting funding and other big meaningless numbers around which helped em to gloss over the dire lack of results. There are results but they are neither very impressive nor did any of them arrive on time...many with YEARS of delay..plus what CIG created has a pricetag that makes it all an embarassment really. Thats what the SC project really come down to. A collosal waste of time and money that doesnt justify its results and throwing more money at it or having more patience wont change the facts we already have nor will it improve how things are handled.

Watching Star Citizens development today is like watching the developers in real time discovering what SC is and what is possible with the tools they were given years ago when these things should ve been the starting point in 2012...back when development started. We understand that development sometimes needs to change and that an active development can throw spanners into the works but those are exceptions and unwelcome, avoiding such things has top priority because its extremely costly and can stop a project in its tracks but sadly it seems like any of these things has become the norm for Star Citizens development Like there hasnt been a masterplan all this time except for "keep it running and bring in the moolah". It doesnt instill trust and it opens a can of very uncomfortable questions to events that happened in the past, now that we know more in hindsight.

Every scam in history is "trying" and going for the impossible or very impressive. What sets em apart is how long they are running and how much money they are able to waste before they collapse. In this regard Star Citizen certainly is in the elite club regarding duration buit when it comes to monetary value its not even in the top 20. Yes...scams are able to consume and waste BILLIONS all while appearing to be legit until they are revealed.

There hasnt been proof or evidence yet that Star Citizen actually is a scam but there have been a ton of red flags and suspicions and it appears more and more probable that this is exactly what it has turned into or is turning into.

I can see the allure of Star Citizen and understand why people are drawn to its potential. Its just that I personally am able to see through all the shine and pomp (while most people are blinded by tzhe pixels) and see the utter ruins that lie beneath the surface. Star Citizen wont be able to fulfill its expectations nor its promises. CIG is currently hard at work to at least avoid legal ramifications by checking off as many boxes as they can to avoid lawsuits once they go under or release a buggy unfinished game. Thats my own take but at least I m willing to voice my opinion clearly while the usual SC defender cowers and speaks vaguely of ideas and estimates all the while attacking skeptical voices as haters and other nonsense instead of addressing the accusations. Usual retorts like "its alpha" and other nonsene come across like copy-paste excuses and mostly it boils down to having "faith" and "trusting" in CIG to deliver on their promises...something that no other company (with a much better track record btw) enjoys from its fanbase.

Its very possible that all the "haters" and "SC bashers" as you call em are simply people who woke up earlier then the rest of the flock...I m pretty sure you ll be one of them once the general press and forensic investigations determine that SC was on a dead track since 2015 basically selling you an illusion and preying on your goodwill..even if you might not be able to admit that openly.

If we really NEED a game like Star Citizen I think we should make sure to trust a company that is capable of delivering it to us. That means keep asking the tough questions and remain skeptical, putting results under the magnifying glass and constantly challenge the developers to come true on their announcements...in time and in full. Since 2012 CIG has only proven that they are not the right company for the job. None of the others you name might be either but that doesnt mean that we should continue to feed CIG but look elsewhere.

Investors all around the world invest their money in new and groundbreaking projects. Some would call em "impossible" but most of them have one thing in common. Most of them fail and never come to fruitition because they simply promise more then they can deliver. Only in those cases the investors usually cut em short by withdrawing their money after a certain period of time in which the company failed to prove itself thus only the most capable and most promising projects survive the culling and keep on going. Usually by results.

Star Citizen is a project that feeds on private people who have no rights and no say in its development. CIG cuts out the required results completely by going full-bore hype and lies, ignopring obvious flaws and worries. The worst part is that a lot of those abused folks cannot help themselves but keep on defending a project that has turned bad refusing to face reality and seeing the facts instead making up a fantasy that doesnt reflect the real world. If you stand here and claim that Star Citizen already provides more then ED, NMS and X4 combined...trust me....it says far more about you as a person then it does about those games or Star Citizen :)
 
I don't think the Star Citizen project is a scam. It has a lot of parallels with NMS, Theranos, and Fyre Festival,

Theranos was a scam....The technology the company was "producing" never existed and the prototypes used to secure funding were all faked. The company went international with more employees then CIG worldwide yet almost nobody except for a small ring of people knew they were working for an active scam.
 
Who are you to tell me what I do and do not need?

Its quite easy because we are not talking about lifesaving medicine here but a luxury. Apart from your counterquestion can you answer the question because you avoided that I notice. When confronted with the distinction he listed...are you still claiming to "need" it or is he correct in assuming you "want" it only?

....asking for a friend :)
 
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