Griefing

[pookeyhead]

Huh?

Nav beacons are located near the primary star… the one you'll drop out next to. Siting near a nav beacon allows you to see arrivals in the system... scan then, and ultimately in my case... gank them. In my case, one particular miscreant was camped there for hours.

If I'd known my RHETORICAL question was going to prompt so much bickering and nerd rage, I'd have not bothered.. I just wanted to vent.

Why is everyone being such an ? Calm down. 5 pages of posts..... (sigh).

 

[Bigmaec]

Nav beacons are located near the primary star… the one you'll drop out next to. Siting near a nav beacon allows you to see arrivals in the system... scan then, and ultimately in my case... gank them. In my case, one particular miscreant was camped there for hours.

If I'd known my RHETORICAL question was going to prompt so much bickering and nerd rage, I'd have not bothered.. I just wanted to vent.

Why is everyone being such an ? Calm down. 5 pages of posts..... (sigh).

Ah ok, I understood it as you were dropping in the nav beacon repeatedly and were ganked there.

Generally when entering a system in open you should follow those steps:

1) open bandwith meter with ctrl+b. Everything over 600 kb indicates another player in your instance
2) turn your rear towards the sun throttled down
3) select a star nearby from galmap as target in case of attack.
4) make sure to have the button mapped which allows you to quickselect this target
5) see if there are hollow blips on your sensors close to you, scan them to if they have an interdictor fitted
6) if yes, fly a big detour and never the direct way to your destination
7) if attacked proceed with the "Rinzler protocol" to escape the gank.

 

[pookeyhead]

While I didn't do exactly that.. did the essentials: Targeted a star ASAP upon arrival... submitted to interdiction ASAP.... tried to high wake. The guy could one shot me though, so kind of an unfair fight.

I'm in solo mode while engineering my ship, so I'll leave everyone in here to carry on arguing now I seem to have triggered them.

Thanks for the tips though.

 

[Screemonster]

also if they're near the nav beacon that's pretty poor as they'll get caught in the star's gravity well trying to chase you. The only reason you'd want to be that close to the star to ambush someone is if the person you're trying to catch is going to immediately jump to another system as soon as the star goes from red to orange on their scanner rather than visiting something in the system you're in.

 

[pookeyhead]

(shrug)…. no idea why he was doing what he was doing... just as I've no idea why there seems to be so many triggered people in this thread.

 

[Screemonster]

probably because you keep calling them "triggered" when they try to explain things to you.

 

[Deleted member 38366]

Maybe if you all stopped being such easy marks the gankers would really have a harder time. But no. Beeline to Farseer, Shinrarta, and whatever CG is active at the moment like the drones you are. Don't bother learning to fly your big ship. Don't bother learning to outfit. Heck, why even consider choosing Solo or PG when you're not in the mood for PvP.

Nope, just click Open. Take that five days of exploration data and head straight to Shinrarta. Maybe you won't get ganked this time. But hey, if you do, there's plenty of people ready to hold your hand and make you some chicken soup.

Meanwhile, all the folks you decry as gankers be like:

Spoiler

Dunno, the last time I met Gankers they literally got demonstrated. I merely toyed with them. So I take it I didn't do anything wrong and did "my homework" well on outfitting.

But - and you know better than that - a Ganker will be a Ganker, no matter what. The GIF is how they love to see themselves after seal clubbing.
I take it folks would look forward to you taking a Cargo Type-9 and defeating Gankers using your Weapons. I mean it only takes a bit outfitting as you said, right?

So show us your Recordings of you killing a Wing of Gankers in an unengineered Type-7 or Type-9 somewhere in Deciat for its first FSD modification.

Oh wait.... you didn't speak the truth anyway and only tried to defend the usual "Ganker PR" of the victims of Ganking being the true criminals and doing something wrong
Same old.... same old. Always the same.

 

[pookeyhead]

probably because you keep calling them "triggered" when they try to explain things to you.

uhuh…. I only ever used the word 5 pages in to this ridiculous thread, so you really think it's that? I'm not talking about the ones who are explaining things to me, I'm on about the ones who somehow think my post warranted pejorative responses, and the ones so triggered they are even referencing this thread in other threads as if I've made some massive kind of community transgression.

 

[[PS4 Pro - PC] earthtone99]

Hmmm.... If you gonna gank, I reckon this should incur the wrath of negative Arx as a punishment.

If I ever did this, then I would expect to lose some goodie points for being a baddie. Basically it’s like playing as a UK thing called ‘white van man’.

 

[pookeyhead]

Yes, 100%
Basically, to join the club, grind out a PvP ship with MAX engineering, totally useless for playing the game in any format apart from PvP.
Then go into open and attack anyone without a PvP ship at a popular location.

A) I've no interest in pew pew.... that's not what Elite is for me.
B) If I did that, I'd be doing what I'm complaining about, which makes me a hypocrite.

Nope... I'll just play in solo mode.

 

[pookeyhead]

Hmmm.... If you gonna gank, I reckon this should incur the wrath of negative Arx as a punishment.

Agreed.. absolutely.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

I mean... You could probably take a ship and load it up with HRP and MRP's only, make it to Farseer in that, and pin the FSD recipe and engineer your non combat ships remotely (and apply the experimental effect at Elvira's).

But most players are new, and wouldn't have the faintest about this being an option. I mean, in my early days I took a non engineered Vulture to Maia to buy Meta Alloys for Felicia. 35 jumps each way and a melting cargo bay, losing the goodies twice on the way back.

Plus, the gankers in Deciat run such specialist builds that it's challenging enough to escape even in a sensible build, let alone having the flying experience to do so.

So for the real noob is probably best to switch to Solo at the beginning. Still, fair play to those who still try it in Open. I know I didn't have the 'balls' when I was at that stage in the game, although progress was a lot slower as well, so each rebuy really did hurt and set you back much further.

 

[pookeyhead]

But most players are new, and wouldn't have the faintest about this being an option. I mean, in my early days I took a non engineered Vulture to Maia to buy Meta Alloys for Felicia. 35 jumps each way and a melting cargo bay, losing the goodies twice on the way back.

Plus, the gankers in Deciat run such specialist builds that it's challenging enough to escape even in a sensible build, let alone having the flying experience to do so.

So for the real noob is probably best to switch to Solo at the beginning. Still, fair play to those who still try it in Open. I know I didn't have the 'balls' when I was at that stage in the game, although progress was a lot slower as well, so each rebuy really did hurt and set you back much further.

Already switched to solo.

I have to say, I'm, surpised by the negative responses in this thread... just shows the true nature of the type who actually do the ganking, doesn; it?

I've only been playing for 2 weeks. I played over 5 years ago when it was first on beta, but stoped shortly afterwards.. I've forgotten everything... I'm literally starting again.

"You could probably take a ship and load it up with HRP and MRP's only, make it to Farseer in that, and pin the FSD recipe and engineer your non combat ships remotely (and apply the experimental effect at Elvira's)."

I have no idea what any of that means, but I shall go and find out.

I know I can play solo.... but kind of goes against the ethos of the game for me. It's a shame I have to.

 

[Bigmaec]

Already switched to solo.

I have to say, I'm, surpised by the negative responses in this thread... just shows the true nature of the type who actually do the ganking, doesn; it?

I've only been playing for 2 weeks. I played over 5 years ago when it was first on beta, but stoped shortly afterwards.. I've forgotten everything... I'm literally starting again.

"You could probably take a ship and load it up with HRP and MRP's only, make it to Farseer in that, and pin the FSD recipe and engineer your non combat ships remotely (and apply the experimental effect at Elvira's)."

I have no idea what any of that means, but I shall go and find out.

I know I can play solo.... but kind of goes against the ethos of the game for me. It's a shame I have to.

Totally ok to relearn everthing, play in solo, engineer stuff and later come back to open.
That's the genius design, you're never committed to one mode...

 

[Deleted member 182079]

Totally ok to relearn everthing, play in solo, engineer stuff and later come back to open.
That's the genius design, you're never committed to one mode...

Exactly. I played exclusively in Solo for at least the first couple of years. Now I'm playing almost exclusively in Open, and I welcome gankers antics as I've pretty much unlocked everything in the game and they do add some excitement and challenge for me (tried to combat them in Deciat with limited success, was still fun though).

If I don't feel like bumping into them (I live in Shin Dez so it's inevitable) I switch to Solo, do what I want to do in peace, then switch back when I feel like playing cat and mouse again. No drama.

 

[MickyG1982]

What do players get from camping by a nav beacon and constantly attacking an unarmed ship with no cargo, or no bounty? Is it just the pleasure of ruining the game for someone else, or what?

So someone will create threads like this, and you did.

Griefer won.

 

[Deleted member 182079]

I've only been playing for 2 weeks. I played over 5 years ago when it was first on beta, but stoped shortly afterwards.. I've forgotten everything... I'm literally starting again.

I wish I could do this, Men in Black style reset...

 

[pookeyhead]

I wish I could do this, Men in Black style reset...

I'd much rather I remembered everything. I had cash and ships, but just nuked everything and started again.

If you actually are experienced though... seems silly to reset... surely you'd be bored? Everything I am am doing is like the first time again though, so made sense for me.

 

[pookeyhead]

So someone will create threads like this, and you did.

Griefer won.

I rest my case. That IS why they do it then... to try and ruin the game for others. Anyone who derives pleasure from that is just a child.

 

[Dillon Fallon]

I feel like I'm very much in the minority with this. When I got the game I did a bit of internet searching to find out what was what and quickly found out that you've no protection in open (aside from your own ability) and that some areas are dangerous. I took the decision to stay in solo to start with as I wasn't ready for that. Perhaps I'm just old, but anyone who has played any multiplayer game should be aware that unless the game hard codes a stop to it, people will be s to each other. Nowhere does it say that ganking is prevented.

I'm not someone who supports blowing up new players by any means, but some of the threads such as one I've seen about it being unfair that a player got one-shotted because they went into a DW2 start point system in a ship with no shields or armour in open make me wonder if there's even an attempt to understand how this game currently works in some areas.

I wouldn't want to have my ship blown up by a ganker so I modify how I play the game to suit the environment. You can't modify an environment to suit your behaviour. Frontier allow ganking in open, that's how the game is.