The only info we know about the player base is that the majority by a long way, play in Open. Which was stated by Sandro I think.
So over half not wanting it, is total hearsay. We do know that the people that don't want it, are much more likely to state that on this forum.
I would certainly agree that WAY over half of this forum doesn't want PVP.
If the majority of people wanted it, why isn't there any cohesive push to attain it, unless the different "factions" have such different outlooks on what they want from PvP that it's chaos to try to formulate a unified message?
If this forum isn't representative of the player base, then either PvPers avoid this place or PvEers flock here (or both).
IF the game ever changed and forced playing in a single-mode, you have to understand that the game we have now, WOULD NOT BE THAT GAME.
Sure, but it has nothing to do with emergent PvP.
The current game we have doesn't work and if you were to flip a forced mode on people it still wouldn't work.
I wouldn't want it flipped. I like having the options to play in any mode. I was only pointing out that this great panacea of PvP wouldn't do anything for PvE'ers who don't care. Would a PvPer really care if different alien life was found 25K LY from Sol, except to perhaps gank the explorers going to carebear them back into hiding?
However, IF ( and its a monumentally huge IF ) the game was changed to give PVP more of a place and force players into an environment where PVP was likely. The game would be changed in an incredible way to support it. Even FDEV would not be that nieve.
Then you'd all be still shooting each other because the PvE'ers wouldn't put up with it. They'd find other things to do. That's why they are called PvE'ers. If they wanted to PvP, they'd PvP. It's right there and always has been. They want to PvE, and even the "V" part is questionable. It's more like PiE or "Player Investigating Environment". The "vs" part doesn't appeal to a good number of ED'ers.
We are looking at
Career roles both legal and criminal.
Real risks for both sides but with rewards to counter.
Proper clan management.
Economy balance and player assets.
Balancing of ships for both trade and war. Trade ships would become tougher and warships ( PVP builds ) would be nerfed to reduce the incredible delta that currently exists.
Instancing and matchmaking.
Exploits.
Combat logging.
The list is so big, that I have no illusion it is going to happen anytime soon. Maybe in 2020 if this patch is as big as they want us to believe.
People in their mind want EVE with an ED cockpit ( or StarCitizen ).
Done right, a non PVP player could exist in a world where they were protected by Lawful PVPers.
What we have no is just so full of holes and issues that its too late to fix PVP in this build of ED.
All of this is IMHO but im also totally right.
Powderpanic
The Voice of Griefing
That's all cool stuff to someone like me, but I can also see the viewpoint of those who believe the game is not about what you can fight over in the tiny region of the bubble, but what you can share from your time in uncharted space. I can see the appeal of both groups, but I don't think they are compatible.