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Para Handy

Para Handy
SiriusStrider said:
Yes, mapping the starting area requires planning. You only get the DSS outside, so you need to earn the money without gaining rank first. Ignore missions, and collect combat bonds in a HiRes, while careful to let the police do the killing.
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I am sure you meant to say bounties. However, I don't think you can earn enough for a DSS without being promoted as the "kill count" isn't based on money but the relative "rating" of the destroyed scum criminal.

I would suggest that a more sure way of getting the credits would be by someone dropping Palladium for you to scoop but maybe the selling of enough of that (you would need over 18 cannisters) at a station outside the zone would stop you going back as it would promote you. (Selling it inside would surely promote you? - I can't remember how much the first trade promo kicks-in at.)
 

Para Handy

Para Handy
Ashnak said:
According to https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Trader , you'll be promoted for 5,000 Cr. profit - the DSS costs 250,000. The first exploration promotion would be at 40,000. Only way is combat So, how do you get profits from combat without gaining experience?
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Yes exactly - I don't see how you could gain enough in bounties without being promoted.

My musing was merely that if you could take 18 cannisters of donated Palladium into a station, sell them and buy the DSS you would of course be promoted but will you lose the permit right away as it says if you dock outside AFTER you are promoted - so maybe you could get away with it. Since the max cargo in a sidewinder is now 16t you probably couldn't do it with Palladium anyway so a more convoluted fiddling would be required.

I am not minded to experiment to find out as apparently I am too busy having a tantrum over an eyebrow. LOL
 

wAsh67

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Made a big mistake.

Looking to unlock a few more engineers, I balked at the trip to Colonia to get what I need. I've done Sagitarrius A and visited Jaques on the way back to the bubble and that was not an enjoyable trip. Then I noticed that Selene Jean could G5 what I needed so ignoring all the invites to Colonia to get modded, I figured I'd unlock her to get my Challenger up to combat spec. All I needed was to do a bit of mining, which is uncharted territory for me. 500 tonnes. How hard could it be?

Turns out mining is pretty easy, but boy is it a drag. 2 weeks I've been plugging away and I'm only up to 305 tonnes refined. Just managed to get 30 tonnes done in one sitting ( limited to short stints due to lifestyle) and I just don't want to do it any more. The grind has ground me down.

My mistake was not going to Colonia as the thought of mining another 195 tonnes of ore is making me look at the PS4 with eyes filled with hatred and loathing.

Gah!
 

Ashnak

Ashnak
Ah - if you can take donated goods from outside, there is some stuff that sells much higher than P/P/P. Assuming you can sell VOs or LTDs, one or two tons would do the job - worst sales price for VOs is ~180 k per ton, LTDs sell for at least 280 k per ton.
 

WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
wAsh67 said:
Made a big mistake.

Looking to unlock a few more engineers, I balked at the trip to Colonia to get what I need. I've done Sagitarrius A and visited Jaques on the way back to the bubble and that was not an enjoyable trip. Then I noticed that Selene Jean could G5 what I needed so ignoring all the invites to Colonia to get modded, I figured I'd unlock her to get my Challenger up to combat spec. All I needed was to do a bit of mining, which is uncharted territory for me. 500 tonnes. How hard could it be?

Turns out mining is pretty easy, but boy is it a drag. 2 weeks I've been plugging away and I'm only up to 305 tonnes refined. Just managed to get 30 tonnes done in one sitting ( limited to short stints due to lifestyle) and I just don't want to do it any more. The grind has ground me down.

My mistake was not going to Colonia as the thought of mining another 195 tonnes of ore is making me look at the PS4 with eyes filled with hatred and loathing.

Gah!
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You should easily be able to cash in 100 million credits per hour doing core mining. Don't know if EDDB has been nerfed with the latest update, but it sounds as if you're doing something wrong, or maybe being too impatient. Getting to the hotspot and selling the minerals take time, so if you get impatient too quickly while mining you reduce efficiency.

Try this one:

Miner's Tool

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Choose LTD or Opals depending on whether you want to blow up rocks or just burn them with lasers.

Feel free to ask about core mining. I've done a little of that.


Edit: A few tricks to make core mining more entertaining and prosperous:

Bring as many collector limpet controllers as you can. Get rid of SCA and ADC if you use them, and use the slots for collector limpet controllers. This will reduce boring waiting time while limpets collect.

Learn which minerals are expensive and which are not. Make a rhyme like Grand-Void-Alex-Diamonds to memorize it. Skip bromelite, but pick up anything valuable.

Use a smaller ship, preferably a Python, and fit it with good thrusters (dirty drag) to orbit the rocks with more agility while firing seismic charges.

A small shield is enough to stay very close to the rock while it blows up. That makes the travel time for your collectors shorter (faster).

Using a centered hardpoint for the seismic charge launcher makes it much easier to hit the fissures.

Learn how the core containing rocks spawn. When a new one pops up, look behind you. Most rocks spawn after you have passed them.

2nd Edit: I'm missed the point that you weren't in it for the money. In that case Codger's advice is spot on.(y)
 
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Para Handy

Para Handy
WeComeInPeace said:
@Para Handy and Ashnak

Your avatars are blinking in sync. Very groovy baby! :cool:
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Ashnak

Ashnak
wAsh67 said:
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Turns out mining is pretty easy, but boy is it a drag. 2 weeks I've been plugging away and I'm only up to 305 tonnes refined. Just managed to get 30 tonnes done in one sitting ( limited to short stints due to lifestyle) and I just don't want to do it any more. The grind has ground me down.
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I usually make >30 tons of core minerals (VOs or LTDs) in one sitting, one to two hours, including prep and sale. I.e. I load up my DBX to the brim, which is 42 tons (32 + 4 cargo + 6 in the refinery) with usually 3, sometimes 4, cores. However, that's for making money.
If you're simply after quantity, take that DBX (or your Challenger, at least it has thee PD for it), equip two medium mining lasers and ~6 collector limpets, fill her up with limpets and simply start shooting everything. If you just waltz through a ring and collect and refine everything that you can get in front of your lasers, I would estimate you could get one ton every 5 seconds (very conservative), so 500 tons in 2500 seconds - less than one hour. Just fill up your hold and dump it when full.
Remember - the requirement is 500 tons refined, not 500 tons sold.

Of course, if you want to discriminate, you could take a ship with >50 tons cargo capacity and keep the Painite, as that is the next thing Selene wants from you.

P.S: Don't dump the limpets!
 

Codger

Codger
Ashnak said:
If you're simply after quantity, take that DBX (or your Challenger, at least it has thee PD for it), equip two medium mining lasers and ~6 collector limpets, fill her up with limpets and simply start shooting everything. If you just waltz through a ring and collect and refine everything that you can get in front of your lasers, I would estimate you could get one ton every 5 seconds (very conservative), so 500 tons in 2500 seconds - less than one hour. Just fill up your hold and dump it when full.
Remember - the requirement is 500 tons refined, not 500 tons sold.
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This is an important point. If you're just trying to unlock Selene Jean, then there's no need to do specialist mining of any kind. Core mining would be too slow.

Back when I unlocked her was before the mining changes, so all I did was fit a couple mining lasers, a refinery, and a bunch of collector limpets. Then I hoovered up anything and everything from every rock until my hold was full. Then I jettisoned it all and continued. Repeat until 500 tons refined. Try to keep 10 painite for later donation to Selene.

It took me maybe 3 hours total.
 

wAsh67

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Thanks for the replies. It is just for the unlock rather than the cash so I have been refining and selling locally ( 5 minute round trip from orbital to hotspot in Lulua system) rather than dumping, but I just found it agonizingly tedious. I've been fighting off pirates just to break the monotony but I need a break from the grind just to restore my sanity. My problem is, I suspect, just that I find mining a total drag and thus have lost patience sooner than usual. Or I'm getting more like Victor Meldrew as I age.....

Question to the knowledgeable - does equipping multiple mining lasers increase the rate of yield from a rock? And is there a foolproof way of locating this elusive painite? I've equipped prospector limpets and shot the bejesus out of every rock in sight in a painite hotspot but never yet located a gramme of the stuff. Shedloads of gold, silver, samarium etc but never anything that the hotspot says should be there.

Again, thanks for the replies. I bow down to the regulars here in respectful worship.
 

aRJay

aRJay
wAsh67 said:
Thanks for the replies. It is just for the unlock rather than the cash so I have been refining and selling locally ( 5 minute round trip from orbital to hotspot in Lulua system) rather than dumping, but I just found it agonizingly tedious. I've been fighting off pirates just to break the monotony but I need a break from the grind just to restore my sanity. My problem is, I suspect, just that I find mining a total drag and thus have lost patience sooner than usual. Or I'm getting more like Victor Meldrew as I age.....

Question to the knowledgeable - does equipping multiple mining lasers increase the rate of yield from a rock? And is there a foolproof way of locating this elusive painite? I've equipped prospector limpets and shot the bejesus out of every rock in sight in a painite hotspot but never yet located a gramme of the stuff. Shedloads of gold, silver, samarium etc but never anything that the hotspot says should be there.

Again, thanks for the replies. I bow down to the regulars here in respectful worship.
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As others have said for the unlock all you have to do is refine the 500 tonnes you can dump it as soon as it becomes cargo, a prospector limpet boosts the quantity available from a rock while having a large A rated refinery and six or more collectors running at once will get you the fastest throughput speed limitations will be down to limpets available and possibly the lasers draining the distributor.
 

Codger

Codger
I decided to jump into my iEagle for a bit of easy bounty hunting today. I don't often get into my small ships for battle, but I had a good time with it today. It has a trio of multicannons on it, and it does very well for RES site work.

I call the ship "Yambo." Now there's a reference I really doubt anyone will get.

Here's a screenie from today's adventure.

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WeComeInPeace

WeComeInPeace
Palin's new crib is pretty cool

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In all my excitement about the Vulture I had forgotten than the Mamba is also fun for bounty hunting. The Vulture is exceptionally maneuverable and even without much use of thrusters getting slightly above / behind even smaller ships is easy, making it perfect for frags that need a large surface to hit. The Mamba on the other hand is fitted with a huge long range beam to zap shields making way for a follow up with rapid fire seeker misiles. It takes a little more patience than the brutal Vulture, but it's classical EVE:Valkyrie style.

Earlier I filled the cargo of my Corvette and took it for a spin to collect HGEs. When that got "boring" I went to a Haz Res and parked it as a turret, waited for a "Scan detected", pitched 180 degrees and opened fire, with the cargo hatch open and limpets buzzing around. It didn't lose a single ring of shield and multicannons uses the ammo at less absurd rates than the frags. A lazy way of hunting pirates (mats), and afterwords it was laid back SCA and ADC on the way home, giving me a chance to enjoy the view. I like both big and smaller ships, and the more you play the game, the more specialized your ship builds become. What a great game it is!
 
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