What to do about Griefers
- Thread starter Cmdr Green Skin
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Why didn't you block him?
Because I don't want to crap up instancing for others. That's why my block list is empty and has been since it was confirmed to do more than block chat several years back.
In the example I mentioned, if some ally were to drop in to that CZ, I could have been using out-of-character means (the block) to separate them from myself (if the the matchmaking mechanisms had greater affinity for the abuser), and if they didn't know what they were doing, the very heavily engineered corvette my loggy opponent was using would have torn them to shreds.
If I read the patch note supplied by Babelfish right its just a blanket block now, the friends list no longer overrides it.
Ditto, I was on a well deserved forum holiday for naming and shaming cheats when I found them elsewhere crying salty tears at getting perma'd from the game.
That does sound like what it implies, but I'll have to test it at some point as FDev often has no idea how their game is actually working.
If true, then it's going to be comically simple to abuse and will quickly become an offensive griefer tool to undermine what little protection CMDRs can provide for each other (or just annoy people via the wing breaking it will be capable of).
I once gave him a good fight in my bubble taxiLOL, I think I've seen the incident the OP was complaining about in a video.
The evil™ psychopath® ganker in question was most probably a well known pvper whose name I cannot type here but in all likelihood there must be some exotic fruit in it.
He's literally one of the very best pilots in this game, so good luck with that training.
He can 1v1 me in one of my proper ships ANY time. 
And here's me thinking SC fan bois were obsessive compulsive types.......
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I dare say the logical option for the block would be that the game automatically merges all block lists when in a wing, and then in splits them when the wing breaks up.
I am sure someone will spot a hole in that plan but I think that sounds fairly robust and I don't think it is unreasonable for players in a wing be expected to respect others block lists for that session. If they are not then they probably should not wing with a player with a block list
Griefers already use block if you do things like fly a speed build courier at CG's, the most obvious approach would be isolate a player for attack by blocking his wingmates.
I've unblocked you in game, still can't remember why I did it in the first place so I'm assuming I just thought it was funny.
That fella was still moaning about offline whilst complaining about being perma'd years later, so obsessive is the right word.
Even though I recommend "block" as a post-encounter remedy for gankers, or pretty much anyone whose name you don't like, I think it's a poopy mechanic.
So many examples of how to handle pvp and pve in the mmo world were just ignored by FDEV. Blocking is the laziest, cheapest response to the issue.
This is kind of a tired debate at this point isn't it guys?
Noobs now have "safe zones", the only reason the OP got popped is because VOs let him get trade elite before he learned about the true nature of the community in this fiasco.
An actually useful tutorial in noobland would be a list of the ways players can be trolled in Open once they've left the cradle.
So many examples of how to handle pvp and pve in the mmo world were just ignored by FDEV. Blocking is the laziest, cheapest response to the issue.
This is kind of a tired debate at this point isn't it guys?
Noobs now have "safe zones", the only reason the OP got popped is because VOs let him get trade elite before he learned about the true nature of the community in this fiasco.
An actually useful tutorial in noobland would be a list of the ways players can be trolled in Open once they've left the cradle.
What a nice port Majida is.
Can't always be familiar with who you're winging with. I frequently group up with complete strangers, or am invited into a wing by someone I'm acquainted with and become acquainted with new people in the process.
Anyway, a hard/infinite weight block wouldn't need to be used from within a wing to be troublesome. For example, I could just go mining in a popular RES, and block half the people of all the wings I see and ruin the day for a dozen players when they couldn't properly group up after rearming, because some were placed with me. It may never even occur to them what was happening.
Are you sure you even had my CMDR?
Robert Maynard
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One element of a fix for that might be to extend the length of the menu exit delay while instanced with a CMDR that one has shot at and hit, possibly increasing it for every shot that lands.
I gave up on open for over a year when I was flying out of Lave station, as it was the only place you could cash alliance bounties it was the go to place for station rammers. I got so bored of bypassing them I stopped bothering.
Once block got adjusted to be more than comms I binned the lot of them and always play open, except for shinrarta because its a silly place.
Open is the most fun, just be prepared for PVP.
My formulation is, "Don't look to Wil Wheaton for guidance."
personally I'd like it disabled when someone is interdicted and drops out and re-enabled when they engage a jump
Might help in some circumstances, but certainly not all.
If someone who was hostile shows up again, my CMDR rather has to put pressure on them so he's not jumped at a disadvantageous moment (CMDRs are so vastly superior to NPCs in general that I'd consider any CMDR in a venue like a CZ who is pledged to the opposite side, or who was and then refuses to pick a side, to be the most threatening vessel in the instance), and they don't have to shoot my CMDR to cost my side a victory in a CZ.
You know if the pvp community are forced to leave the game a lot of people will be wanting their money back. ED and less players = Bad for EDIs the corollary true?
If FDev does indeed perma-banhammer griefers, then will all the PvP gankers retreat to PG or leave the game?
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