Stupid Griefers are Everywhere!

Zieman

Zieman
Bloodsign said:
Precisely my point, a COMMANDER can play in Open and deal with the hazards, a child will play in Open and whine about the meanies. Children should play in Solo.
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There's truth behind that infantile rhetoric.
If you click open, you need to accept that anything can happen in game. You might not like all happenings, but complaining about them on the forums (or elsewhere) is not wise course of action.
 

M00ka

M00ka
CMDR Maylor Rom said:
Combat logging and Menu logging by griefers are certainly detectable by Frontier servers. Folks who play honestly do not take advantage of this exploit. Frontier should monitor these events and if an account is flagged for excessive disconnects, this account would then be placed into a special "Private Group" mode called "Frontier Restricted" for a period of time and are not allowed to play in Open or any other established Private Group until the player has completed a tour of service in this restricted PG group and then agreed (in some form of digital signature) to an "Acknowledgment of Frontier's Terms of Service". Violations beyond this would result in an account suspension for a period of time.

Until Frontier takes a more aggressive posture on griefing, players will be forced to use Solo or PG for the sake of safe gameplay, or just put up with these events. Frankly, I am dismayed at having to use Solo or PG because of the actions of a few who feel entitled to ruin the gaming experience of the larger community and the new player base.

Yes, I have heard the arguments for the "get gud" positon, but no matter how gud you are, griefers are just a nucience to all, especially the new players Frontier wants to engage.

The new player experience should also include a training video produced by Frontier advising new players of what actions to expect from griefers and how to report them if a new player experiences such actions while learning the game.
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Just a question on being penalised for 'excessive disconnects', what about when someone is menu logging? I was at Dave's Hope the other day and probably menu logged every two minutes there for a while to generate new mats. Not very sporting I know, but reading up on Dave's Hope here in the forums that is what was recommended. (Must admit, not something I would do again, found the whole process rather tedious and eventually went back to hunting USS's - much more fun).

Just food for thought, if disconnects are recorded then a lot of activities would have to change in this game, not just griefing ......
 

Schmack

Schmack
Old Duck said:
I have found them to be very predictable. A bunch are hanging around Wyrd this morning, obvious as can be. If I see them when I jump into the system, I just drop out of SC and either high wake back out of the system or switch to Solo to get my work done.

What I ought to do is get a cheap E Sidewinder and let them blow me up over and over for the Arx :p
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Wyrd up
 

Saltyseadog

Saltyseadog
Where do these griefers get the ships you cannot lock onto to or see what if any damage your weapons are doing to them, shields that appear to never go down and system security ships that are out of range for 1 minute and 30 secs etc etc?. I was attacked by such a Cmdr today while going to an engineer for some upgrades. I am in a heavily shielded and armoured Corvette and not afraid of combat. I jumped out of the system to escape when I went down to a fading final ring went into a nearby starport to recharge and had to do more or less exactly the same thing to exactly the same Cmdr again the second time. Put my ship in the garage and came here to find out if this is normal gameplay or not?. I play in Open all the time, have played for over 5yrs have had my share of mishaps but never anything like today.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Saltyseadog said:
Where do these griefers get the ships you cannot lock onto to or see what if any damage your weapons are doing to them, shields that appear to never go down and system security ships that are out of range for 1 minute and 30 secs etc etc?. I was attacked by such a Cmdr today while going to an engineer for some upgrades. I am in a heavily shielded and armoured Corvette and not afraid of combat. I jumped out of the system to escape when I went down to a fading final ring went into a nearby starport to recharge and had to do more or less exactly the same thing to exactly the same Cmdr again the second time. Put my ship in the garage and came here to find out if this is normal gameplay or not?. I play in Open all the time, have played for over 5yrs have had my share of mishaps but never anything like today.
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Video evidence would be nice, but it sounds like one of the cheaters.
 

Dillon Fallon

Dillon Fallon
Saltyseadog said:
Where do these griefers get the ships you cannot lock onto to or see what if any damage your weapons are doing to them, shields that appear to never go down and system security ships that are out of range for 1 minute and 30 secs etc etc?. I was attacked by such a Cmdr today while going to an engineer for some upgrades. I am in a heavily shielded and armoured Corvette and not afraid of combat. I jumped out of the system to escape when I went down to a fading final ring went into a nearby starport to recharge and had to do more or less exactly the same thing to exactly the same Cmdr again the second time. Put my ship in the garage and came here to find out if this is normal gameplay or not?. I play in Open all the time, have played for over 5yrs have had my share of mishaps but never anything like today.
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Target lock breaker plasma accelerator with a g5 reinforced prismatic seems like a possibility here. 90 second security response time probably means a low security system.
 

JohnRoberts

JohnRoberts
Midian Cabal said:
Another one that plays a team game without a team...
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Kind of a harsh way to say it, but yes, that's the issue. It's abundantly clear by now that if you put a random group of people into a situation that is anonymous and largely without consequence, there will also be a significant number who will take every opportunity to derive their fun at the expense of others. The solution, as in the real world, is to take some control of who you associate with.

(No point lecturing the d-bags on manners or ethics or common decency - at best they aren't listening, and at worst you're just feeding the trolls).
 
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jasonbarron

jasonbarron
Saltyseadog said:
Where do these griefers get the ships you cannot lock onto to or see what if any damage your weapons are doing to them, shields that appear to never go down and system security ships that are out of range for 1 minute and 30 secs etc etc?. I was attacked by such a Cmdr today while going to an engineer for some upgrades. I am in a heavily shielded and armoured Corvette and not afraid of combat. I jumped out of the system to escape when I went down to a fading final ring went into a nearby starport to recharge and had to do more or less exactly the same thing to exactly the same Cmdr again the second time. Put my ship in the garage and came here to find out if this is normal gameplay or not?. I play in Open all the time, have played for over 5yrs have had my share of mishaps but never anything like today.
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This post means absolutely squat without details. Lots of details.

For starters, what's your experience level with being attacked and under sustained fire by human players in the first place? If the answer is "A bunch, and this encounter was way different than all the others!" we'll know there is potentially a problem. On the other hand, if you haven't been the subject of serious attack it can often seem like a storm of cheats because so much stuff you don't understand is happening all at once.
 
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