[Video] Open letter from community to Elite Dangerous
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That's an odd thing to say in thread about an influencers petition you say you support.
I clarified twice in my post it wasn't directed at you precisely to avoid you trying to reframe it as an attack. Its general commentary on the shift in communications.
However the petition with its "or else" factor definitely fits, and that reddit thread isn't exactly short on further examples.
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I’m very OPEN about my agenda. I have nothing to hide and ONLY have the best interests of the community at heart.
Its absolutely on point, video games are optional entertainment if it stops being fun you should stop doing it. Any other approach is doing it wrong. There's no such thing as the one game to rule them all variety is the spice of life and all that.
The reason they were willing to talk to you is that you are capable of communication. However there's a tiny subset of gamers who (unlike you) are actively driving devs away from communicating with players.
Have a look at this, its more extreme than anything we see here (thanks to the forums policies and the mods) but it explains a lot :
The topic every game dev is talking about behind closed doors : The cost of doing business
Content warning : I’ve embedded some tweets to various developers that show the sorts of comments that they receive every day. There’s some…medium.com
Read that before, its certainly scary to think about.
This part:
The funny thing is (if it can be called funny) is how on every forum its only those devs who are so bad, its only those devs who are lazy and incompetent, and its impled that so many other devs are better. But all it usually takes is a cursory dig through other devs forums to see the same sorts of comments there.
I understand its not what most people who support the petition are like, but again, it doesn't take much of a browse through the comments to see GIFT'ed individuals making posts, although the more extreme ones will be getting removed.
The future.
A petition to not listen to the other petition? Umm...
The future is here today!
I mean, we have buggy releases now, we will have buggy releases in the future, so technically speaking, i'm correct.
Anybody claiming to be surprised about that is lying. Its also the reason they leave us to it.
New buggies confirmed!
I hope the new buggy release is for a hover-buggy.
The reason we don't see that crap is because the mods are pretty fast at deleting it.
You are not wrong, but whenever I had an issue I did send Brett a PM and he responded within 24 hours. Frontier didn't make any money with that.
Yes.
Viajero
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This guy gets it.
And i would call that good business. I spoke with Brett several times myself. I also bought paint jobs and such afterwards. See the connection? It works both ways my friend. If people stopped financing companies who dont practice good customer service...they will change.
As i look across the gaming world, i see many developers and publsihers doing some pretty shady stuff. Loot boxes come to mind. People jump up and down and holler....but companies lime EA keep doing it. Why? Because players keeping buying their stuff! I quit buying ea proudcts long ago. Its the only thing that most understand.
PS:
If someone doesn't believe me regarding death threats and personal attacks against the devs, this is what a mod posted on reddit:
'double edit: I can't believe I have to even say this, but sending frontier employees personal attacks and death threats is super uncool and will get you an immediate ban from this community. Make your criticism as pointed and as loud as you want, but attack the problems you have, not the people.'
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/dbbxeb/community_requests_to_frontier_developments/f2010ev/
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Of course you can't blame the initiators of the petition for their company.
If someone doesn't believe me regarding death threats and personal attacks against the devs, this is what a mod posted on reddit:
'double edit: I can't believe I have to even say this, but sending frontier employees personal attacks and death threats is super uncool and will get you an immediate ban from this community. Make your criticism as pointed and as loud as you want, but attack the problems you have, not the people.'
Source: https://www.reddit.com/r/EliteDangerous/comments/dbbxeb/community_requests_to_frontier_developments/f2010ev/
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Of course you can't blame the initiators of the petition for their company.
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Couple of thoughts on this:
A) 'It's a video game.' is a poor argument I often hear. The hours of investment and the strong emotional ties created by games are important to us all I think (otherwise why are we here talking about this)? Elite might take place in an imaginary world, but the emotions/connections/time spent on it are very real, and using terms like 'its just a game' invalidates that.
A) Haven't followed all of Zac's twitter (as I don't generally use that horrible platform), but if a creator wants to remove a tool he's created 'in protest' - that's entirely their right. Yes, it sucks, but if they feel that strongly about how things are going, its their tool, their choice. Obviously, that is not a light decision for someone to make, but I respect at least that they are at the point of making it.
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True, but I'd say that's universal. Someone could claim that the only reason you are nice to your wife is because it's beneficial for you...
I aint married to Frontier. Lol....but no its not universal.....its just business. Capitalism. Service for payment.True, but I'd say that's universal. Someone could claim that the only reason you are nice to your wife is because it's beneficial for you...
Good on them for the perma bans.