Lol, you used the word "forced" about a video game.
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Lol, you used the word "forced" about a video game.
News at 11, somebody has used "forced" to describe a videogame.
I just said a few posts up. It breaks the games lore, it doesn't make logical sense to have them both. That is important to me. Having them both will have a negative effect on the game for me. It may not be important to you, but to be frank, I don't really care.
I am not arguing, I am making a statement. You can care about how I feel or not. But don't expect me to care about yours if you disregard mine.
Which is exactly what you have been doing from the word go.
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Game lore is very much a matter of personal opinion, given how inconsistent much of the game is.
Having two scanners that do different things is very logical.
One focused on location, the other focused on type.
Don't cofuse the game lore with your lore.
Not when one makes the other make no sense at all.
I okay for two different scanners as long as they do two completely different things. They do not. They both focus on location anyone focuses on type as well. There is no logical sense to have both.
I'm not. The FSS is game lore. If the ADS is included it will be game lore and make no sense.
Clearly there is a logical sense when there is a group of explorers saying that the FSS does not meet their needs.
Your needs are different, so you don’t see the logic.
But then, as you clearly don’t need it, don’t fit it, and console yourself that the rest of us are just beng illogical.
The logic of the FSS remains unchanged - it keeps on being a visualization of a scan result that you can browse at your leisure.
Never denied that.
Nope, it's your needs are different and it is you that cannot see the logic.
No it doesn't.
Are you really claiming that the existence of the ADS changes the nature of the FSS?
It is a 360 spherical projection of the view outside your ship.
That view is a rendering of the scan results of the FSS honk.
You have some controls to navigate the view.
You have a tuning feature with which to focus on specific body types.
You have a zoom function to scan tuned body types.
FSS usage:
Honk - Pan/Tune - Zoom - Scan
Given that you wouldn’t fit an ADS, what changes?
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Ah, Marx, coming in throwing around sensible points. That’s not the done thing round here you know.
But given some of the points you’re making what would probably be useful in aid to that would be if the issues people have could be summarised concisely, coherently and impartially, in a non-emotive way, so that they can be clearly understood without anyone getting antagonised.
Also, it’d be good if issues with having both old and new mechanisms could be explained so that those arguing for the return of the old ones could understand the consequences of what they’re asking for, and perhaps suggest possible mitigations, or make alternative proposals with less consequences.
Not like ARX was a wase of dev time.
But anyway at least you are being honest and you are not the only one to express this view. The bit where it starts to get unseemsly is that fdev is siding with people who basicly admit they are just trolling and spreading bad feeling. When the FSS first arrived i said at the time it looked like a nasty troll against explorers...All i see is a gang of bullies with fdev standing behind them. Its a terrible way for a company to behave.
Well... i didnt call them god modded either. Not my fault if you think they are that powerful
The fact that you have 60 ships worth just proves the point. Why is it ok for you to have that stuff but im not allowed to keep my old ADS? In the name of fair play those modules should have been stripped out just like the ADS was.
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Well im going to tell everybody how i feel ike i got cheated and ripped off. While im playing something else.
Me: argument
You: can't accept your argument, please repeat
Me: no, why?
You: cause if you don't, your argument must be invalid
logic?
Or maybe this thread is so full of fluff that your argument has been lost in the noise.
Is repeating it such a chore?
There just isnt any reason not to let people have the ADS back. And if fdev is planning on making the FSS tie into other things, as funny as i would find that, i really wouldnt. It will just upset more people. Mistakes get made thats understandable but ignoring it afterwards is unforgivable and excluding people who cant accept it is even worse. Why does Fdev want to be another EA or sega? If i even see the name sega on something my wallet closes out of principal. Its not clever treating customers like this.
Just the same as frontier is allowed to ignore me and not care about my issue, so i am entitled to share my opinion of that.
See whats happening as both sides dig in and there is no communication?
To Burke: Well Frontier already got your money, they have pretty little incentive to hear your arguments.
Funnily enough, that is close to what my job actually is.
So please, do explain what consistency is lost by having two scanners focused on different aspects of system discovery.
Maybe I’ll learn something useful to my job.
So much this. They already got my money. This is why whats has been done is wrong.
Of course if they want more of it i guess that would be an incentive.
I’m certainly reading your recent posts and following up with questions.
You say there is an inconsistency, but I don’t see it.
Please enlighten me.
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