ANNOUNCEMENT Community Update (22/10)

[londonx]

As a veteran since premium beta, this is hugely dissapointing.

I have no reason to play anymore, the game needs new content for veterans.

Shame.

So veterans aren't excited about veteran bugs being fixed? I guess when you grow old together you forgive each others quirks!

 

[Eliza]

yes and I remember that at the end of last year they commented on the new era and such, that they would concentrate this year on fixing bugs, the introduction of a store that was not in their plans .... do you suffer from selective memory? I think that You made a mistake as a friend, I have only tried to make people like you see that they were not very sincere with you, but the facts change, what can be done?

They did NOT stated, that they are mainly fixing things, but to "flesh out the existing content". It's a small, but important difference and THAT promise was kept. (mining, exploration, new ships, new modules)

 

[Oldviboy]

I`ll let @Oldviboy answer that one

no no, 0 interest, answer you,seem that you work for frontier, do not name me more please ,and let you keep frightening flies with your sword

 

[Oldviboy]

They did NOT stated, that they are mainly fixing things, but to "flesh out the existing content". It's a small, but important difference and THAT promise was kept. (mining, exploration, new ships, new modules)

again man?just ignore me and my answers

 

[Commander William Diffin]

Oh wow! Well than Internet is not only a "New Frontier" for Germany (as "our" Chancellor stated some years ago).

I think you're right; the Internet (or t'Interwebs as the seniors sometimes call it) is a 'New Frontier' for everybody. Low connection speeds are possibly due to volume of traffic as much as outdated slow telecoms technology. We just need the Chinese to invent the Universal Translator now and connection speeds can plummet.

 

[Eliza]

again man?just ignore me and my answers

Why should I ignore you and close myself out of enjoyment?

And what makes you think I'm a man? Please stay polite!

 

[audiodistortion]

So veterans aren't excited about veteran bugs being fixed? I guess when you grow old together you forgive each others quirks!

The game has been buggy from day one, you adapt and work around them. I still enjoyed playing...

3,500 hours later, you need new content. There will always be bugs. FDEV are simply chasing their tail now.

 

[zimms]

Yeah I like waving the flag of logic and perspecitve now and then, keeps you sane.

Is the Panther another one of your "promises"?

Lets see how long "they" have been delayed for....
2017 "Squadron" Carriers were an advertised paper feature for the Squadrons component of the Q4 Beyond season update, they were dropped indefinitely in the Summer to concentrate on other core game mechanics. There was no evidence of any design work or other progress having been made on them, infact ED stated no design work only the scope had been detailed, unlike Ice Planets which had a sneak preview of a WIP before. No new due date was given to either just a plan to release them in future.

2018 March Anncouncement - Most of the team dedicated to New Era while a smaller team due to release minor Quarterly updates aimed at the new player experience.

"Fleet Carriers" were first revealed at Lavecon July 2019 due Dec 2019 update. https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/lavecon-2019-content-reveal.516705/

October 2019 - Fleet carriers delayed until Q2 2020

So a potential delay of ~ 6 months?

Holy biowaste, the mental gymnastics going on there...

Wait, I have an even better idea. I'll call them Summer Carriers now which means they aren't delayed at all! I am very smart!

 

[Oldviboy]

Why should I ignore you and close myself out of enjoyment?

And what makes you think I'm a man? Please stay polite!

because I can report to you by spam,is in the forum rules or did you forget them after so many years?
it happened to me this morning with 3 or 4 of you, I'm not interested in your opinion, try to do the same ,grow up


PS:You're just a drawing in a square in the forums for me, I'm sorry if you are a girl, woman ,lgtb or whatever,sue me if you want, but don´t name please

 

[londonx]

yes and I remember that at the end of last year they commented on the new era and such, that they would concentrate this year on fixing bugs, the introduction of a store that was not in their plans .... do you suffer from selective memory? I think that You made a mistake as a friend, I have only tried to make people like you see that they were not very sincere with you, but the facts change, what can be done?

Ha yeah "selective memory"? Did you read the material I sent you? https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/Development_Plans

• New Era updates were August 2018 and March 2019, please link this "end of 2018 New Era anouncement" that you read
• There was no prior announcement about only fixing bugs in 2019, if so please link to it
• In March 2019 it was said "we also have a smaller development team focused on adding to and improving the existing game between now and that time. This will take the form of regular game updates and development supported events "
• The details of the Sept & Dec 2019 update features including ARX were revealed at Lavecon July 2019: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/lavecon-2019-content-reveal.516705/

So yeah who is actually making up here?

 

[Old Duck]

I have no idea what has transpired since my last visit, but I just want to remind everyone that I APPROVE OF THIS DECISION.

Carry on.

 

[WILLIAM BILL ADAMA]

we're bored. don't spoil the fun with your boring logic.

I think your boredom is due to a series of FDev's mistakes. Or not... you are another some-person who don't want to end this tiny conflict, and who want to go to New Year's holiday without worry about update.

Wanna fun? use your brain.

#NOARX #UNTILFLEETCARRIER

 

[Rubbernuke]

Will Powerplay be a new DLC maybe under a new name?

Lets hope so. My only wish is for FD to give a concrete answer that it is, its in development or its not. At least then its fair on the people who use the feature and organise it each week.

 

[londonx]

Holy biowaste, the mental gymnastics going on there...

Wait, I have an even better idea. I'll call them Summer Carriers now which means they aren't delayed at all! I am very smart!

Sorry if I made your brain hurt with laying out facts, so If it makes you feel better call them whatever you like. The complex truth is the Squadron Carriers scoped for the original 2018 Q4 release are nothing like the personal Carriers announced at Lavecon in 2019 with a December release date ie they started again from scratch. Of course if it makes you feel worse then say its now a 1.5 year delay but to use that as a stick to try and bash the pace of game "progress" or "numbers of lies x length of time = the game" as our resident spritual guru @Oldviboy claims is meaingless.

 

[Winged Gecko]

Where can you make suggestions to help improve Elite Dangerous?

 

[Eliza]

because I can report to you by spam,is in the forum rules or did you forget them after so many years?
it happened to me this morning with 3 or 4 of you, I'm not interested in your opinion, try to do the same ,grow up


PS:You're just a drawing in a square in the forums for me, I'm sorry if you are a girl, woman ,lgtb or whatever,sue me if you want, but don´t name please

Report me about spamming! Yeah, I would LOVE to see THAT! Please do so! I dare you! I DOUBLE DARE you!
Dispite of that: So you're claiming to have the right of "spamming" your opinion, but deny it for others to do the same because of WHAT reason? Lack of arguments, perhaps?
And I NEVER called you ANY names. I'm mature and educated enough to defend my position with words and not with insults.

 

[londonx]

Lets hope so. My only wish is for FD to give a concrete answer that its, its in development or its not. At least then its fair on the people who use the feature and organise it each week.

Yes I can't support the policy of keeping quiet with plans beyond a year but at least they are consistant in that I guess.

 

[londonx]

The game has been buggy from day one, you adapt and work around them. I still enjoyed playing...

3,500 hours later, you need new content. There will always be bugs. FDEV are simply chasing their tail now.

Yes new content is important too, just curious, you are veteren player but have heard nothing about the prioritisation of the "New Era" DLC for the past 1.5 years?

 

[Eliza]

Where can you make suggestions to help improve Elite Dangerous?

Here you go:

Suggestions

Post your suggestions, feedback, and feature requests for the universe of Elite here!

forums.frontier.co.uk

 

[Soron Silin]

I have the right knowledge to know that you cannot work on an expansion before correcting errors, does it seem logical enough?

It's an entirely logical point of view and the right way to work. But that doesn't mean it happens. It doesn't, far too often. Frontier are not the only software developer out there with this problem. Deadlines mean that features are released that are "good enough". When that has happened a dozen or more times you are left with lots of trivial bugs that keep mounting up. They are never enough to get the management's attention but the customers get more irritated. Finally they shout loud enough and then management take notice and realise that they have a buggy mess that they have to spend a significant development effort on.

It's like boiling lobsters. If you start with cold water and heat it slowly, then they never notice the water getting hotter until it kills them. (These days they're killed humanely first.)

Personally, I think it was Patch 2 that finally rubbed their noses in it. They expected that they could rush out many small fixes to placate the players. Instead those fixes broke the game. That will be when they realised that it was not bad luck that made the September release so difficult and when they started thinking that the foundations might not be stable enough for the new content.

The petition proved that there was significant support for them fixing bugs and the open letter and forum posts gave them reason to think that delaying fleet carriers would be an acceptable way to do it. They could have released fleet carriers on schedule but that would have two negative effects. They would have been just as buggy as the September release, which would further alienate their customers, and they would just add more code complexity and more bugs that they still had to fix before New Era.

Sounds like a monster-download incoming. And this with my crappy connection of 16 MBit/s.

If New Era is just Space Legs or Atmospheric planets, I'd expect about the same amount of code as, say, Planet Zoo. If they've got both of those and procedural cities, hold on to your hat.