ANNOUNCEMENT Community Update (22/10)

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It had better be good!

Dunno, I do worry about the twists and turns of the game's development sometimes. It's quite rare that any of the updates are things that I particularly wanted and I have to accept that the design team are making a game that's different to the dream game in my head. So I fear the same for whatever the next era is. That it'll be a messy, bolted-on-feeling thing with bitty gameplay fatally scuppered by the complexities of multiplayer requirements.

Fingers crossed all the same.

From a stepped back point of view, the only direction change was after Horizons finished belatedly in 2017. The pay up front for a diffuse evolving Season format was then abandoned. New Era is basically a result of that change and the sense of "lull" in the time in between due to the change in format requiring a completed feature set to be purchased on launch. I am imagining from a pure business point of view they will also need to make sure New Era allows for a more quick fire rate of future DLC in addition, so possible base code rewrite or multiple DLC options on launch etc?
 
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Viajero

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They did announce carriers for release on two different dates in 2018, both of which got bumped and then we were told that after taking all of 2019 to fix bugs we would have carriers in Dec of 2019.

For 2yrs now every time carriers are 2 months from release they get a delivery date push out NOT to polish carriers, but to crush more bugs that they created.

It's the same old excuse and apologists keep letting them get away with it.

I agree that a delay is a delay, I am sure we will all take note and act in consequence going forward.

Just remember to put it in its right context and perspective: This is a delay of a very specific and limited feature of the totality of a game spanning 5 years of updates and growth so far, and that it was offered for free to boot. Take a moment to consider if your outrage about the carriers delay news is commensurate to that.

Also, there seems to be a small incorrection in your recollection about the 2019 updates series intent. This year was not dedicated exclusively to fix bugs, fixing bugs has always been a standard thing in all updates so far. No more no less. The 2019 series of updates main objectives were:
  • New player welcoming experience
  • Quality of life features
  • Game tweaks, benefits and bug fixes
  • New features, perks and content, including a range of new additions to the game that will build up to the new era
In addition FDEV clarified that this year updates would not take the same level of content or size that we have seen from previous updates in Beyond or Horizons, as the majority of the development team would be focusing on the new era.

Source: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/important-community-update-01-03.479122/

In contrast, the recent decision by FDEV means the next few updates will be primarily dedicated and focused in fixing bugs.
 
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And I'm thinking: since Frontier is again delaying the promised game content because, they say, they're going to devote their time and effort to fixing the various game bugs (some existing and reported years ago... and they're still there) I ask: will they have any time to look at the anti-cheating code (if there is such a code, of course).
I say this so as not to have to see people again who, overnight, put 95 billion credits into their account. If you've read it right: in 24 hours the guy made 95 billion. Come on, it left without painita and without Opals half Galaxy... Of course, he barely noticed that income in his account: he has more than 200 billion...
I ask: will FEDV have time to verify if these incomes have been made according to the ToS of the game?
I say that since they delay everything, at least verify if I am or not playing in the same game with cheaters.

More than anything to decide if, instead of a temporary uninstallation of your game, as I just did, it is definitive according to how you act in front of these people.

PS: because to talk about another delay in content to those like me, we pay a LEP in their kickstarter ... that I leave for another day.
 
I must admit, I amazed at the number of the people posting excitement for and disappoint of the delay Fleet Carriers. Particularly with how little information there is about them. Still, cool that it really is such a wanted feature! But I thought from the little that has been released, that they come with a running/upkeep cost which makes me kind of weary.
 
I must admit, I amazed at the number of the people posting excitement for and disappoint of the delay Fleet Carriers. Particularly with how little information there is about them. Still, cool that it really is such a wanted feature! But I thought from the little that has been released, that they come with a running/upkeep cost which makes me kind of weary.

For me, its not so such that I wanted or needed a Fleet Carrier.

I wanted new content, for veteran players like me. The only thing on the content menu for the whole of 2019 was Fleet Carriers, so naturally a lot a players were looking forward to that. I'd be fine if we got new ships, new rumours/stuff to find in the Codex or well.........new content.

Instead its delayed (again) to 2020 Q2 and "we can't wait to show you what we've been working on!" That line only works so many times when content starved, especially when Frontier haven't officially said anything about what they're working on.
 
The 2019 series of updates main objectives were:
  • New player welcoming experience
  • Quality of life features
  • Game tweaks, benefits and bug fixes
  • New features, perks and content, including a range of new additions to the game that will build up to the new era
Humm
  • New player welcoming experience <--- Ok they did this but managed to break amost every thing else along the way.
  • Quality of life features <--- Still trying to find these....
  • Game tweaks, benefits and bug fixes <--- What was tewaked and what long standing bugs have been fixed?
  • New features, perks and content, including a range of new additions to the game that will build up to the new era. <--- You mean ARX? well we know how that is going.
 
...and globular clusters and interplanetary collisions and stellar plasma rings and streamers and supernovae and galactic hyperspace, &c., &c., &c.

'And all we know is that he's somewhere in an Open Cluster called Crastalier?' Sma's voice was tinged with disbelief.
'It's a bit more focused than that,' Skaffen-Amtiskaw said. 'There are maybe ten or twelve systems he could be in by now, if he left immediately after stiffing the knife missile, and took the fastest ships available. Thankfully, the tech level in the meta-civilization isn't that high.'

Let's face it, some of us are only going to be satisfied when Elite has evolved into a full-on Iain M Banks substitute.
 
For me, its not so such that I wanted or needed a Fleet Carrier.

I wanted new content, for veteran players like me. The only thing on the content menu for the whole of 2019 was Fleet Carriers, so naturally a lot a players were looking forward to that. I'd be fine if we got new ships, new rumours/stuff to find in the Codex or well.........new content.

Instead its delayed (again) to 2020 Q2 and "we can't wait to show you what we've been working on!" That line only works so many times when content starved, especially when Frontier haven't officially said anything about what they're working on.
Quoted for truth. I'm sure some people were specifically excited for Carriers in particular; but I imagine most of us were just eager to see something added to this game.

All the other updates for the year have been big piles of nothing which nobody wants in the first place. All the concessions to The New Player Experience are of no relevance to anyone here. The addition of ARX, an in-game manual, and a new player Safe Space are no doubt important for the game as a whole and for Frontier's bottom line, but not for me or most players. To the extent that it impacts my experience, these updates are at worst a net negative since they unbalance the game and add own bugs, or at best something I just have to wait through.

Carriers were going to be 2019's only genuine valid addition to the game that doesn't amount to window dressing, and now they're gone.

edit: Re-reading this I realize it sounds way harsher than I intended. Bugs notwithstanding, there's nothing wrong with the 2019 updates; they just aren't something I or most people care about. Similarly - postponing Carriers isn't a terrible thing it's just that of course there's some disappointment since it's the only thing anyone had to look forward to.

Unless . . . Frontier were to make a promise, right now, that they are going to fix the FSS scan delay bug! That's something everyone could cheer for!!
 
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Viajero

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Humm
  • New player welcoming experience <--- Ok they did this but managed to break amost every thing else along the way.
  • Quality of life features <--- Still trying to find these....
  • Game tweaks, benefits and bug fixes <--- What was tewaked and what long standing bugs have been fixed?
  • New features, perks and content, including a range of new additions to the game that will build up to the new era. <--- You mean ARX? well we know how that is going.

April Update: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/April_Update
September update: https://elite-dangerous.fandom.com/wiki/September_Update

The actual patch logs:
April: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/april-update-patch-notes.509331/
September: https://forums.frontier.co.uk/threads/september-update-downtime-and-patch-notes.521859/
 
The strange thing is, I started in the Beta and I'm still hanging around and I can't explain why! Perhaps this may last until end of 2020 or not. I'm beyond the point to say that. So let's see what they make out of it. IMHO game needs both: As few bugs as possible AND a reason to keep playing it, i.e. new content.
My feeling is that FDev had their chances but didn't really get get the optimum out of it. (Turns and continues to wait)
 
For me, its not so such that I wanted or needed a Fleet Carrier.

I wanted new content, for veteran players like me. The only thing on the content menu for the whole of 2019 was Fleet Carriers, so naturally a lot a players were looking forward to that. I'd be fine if we got new ships, new rumours/stuff to find in the Codex or well.........new content.
Let's face it, some of us are only going to be satisfied when Elite has evolved into a full-on Iain M Banks substitute.
Frontier did say that there would only be minor updates in 2019 and 2020 until the release of The New Era at the end of 2020. (I wouldn't be surprised if TNE is delayed beyond that though.) DBOBE claims to have a 10-year development plan, including atmospheric flight and landings, procedurally-generated cities, multi-player capital ships, walking around ship and station interiors and planetary surfaces, on-foot player interaction and combat and other activities, and ship boarding. I see no reason to disbelieve him.

Ten years isn't really a long time. '84ers like me waited thirty years for Elite Dangerous. Personally, I can live without Fleet Carriers or exciting new updates for a year or two, and if in the meantime Frontier toss me a bone like an original Acornsoft Elite wireframe Cobra Mk. III skin, I'll put £10 in their Christmas box for it.
 
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