Same here, but not because of a lack of new content...very basic pre-existing content, like half of my CMDRs ships, don't work correctly due to bugs.
Content Starvation
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Same here, but not because of a lack of new content...very basic pre-existing content, like half of my CMDRs ships, don't work correctly due to bugs.
Due to the very nature of the game, coming up with new content for ED is problematic. Just what would constitute enjoyable new content that would engage the majority of players? Or would new content that only targets a very small minority of players be more acceptable?
For example, any new content that doesn't enhance the PvP fraternity would be met with an outpouring of salt. Likewise, any new content that caters only for the PvP fraternity would be met with just as much angst from the non-PvP players.
I honestly don't envy FD's position, whatever content they release is going to upset a sizeable portion of their playerbase.
For example, any new content that doesn't enhance the PvP fraternity would be met with an outpouring of salt. Likewise, any new content that caters only for the PvP fraternity would be met with just as much angst from the non-PvP players.
I honestly don't envy FD's position, whatever content they release is going to upset a sizeable portion of their playerbase.
Bu bu... but 100 people..
Very true.
It doesn't help when they've left "placeholder" stuff in use for so long either.
You've only got to look at the palaver over the FSS to see how people resent when a simple task is "fleshed out" and results in it becoming more long-winded.
It's not easy to build on things when they were originally easy for the sake of expediency.
Can you image the uproar if the exploration mechanics were reversed. As in the FSS was originally in the game and then suddenly was taken out and replaced by the ADS. People would complain it is too easy - one honk reveals all, how are they going to find all the USS's, they need the FSS screen to get an accurate view of the orbital planes so they can decide whether to investigate or not, the low res images in the system map don't accurately show the planets, they don't want to 'guess' if that planet is an ELW or an Icy Body.
But it is all a moot point as we know whatever FD do will be met with angst by some here.
I for one, welcome our new Community Overlords!
You appear to fundamentally misunderstand the issue with the exploration changes M00ka. There was no need to remove the old stuff, whether it was considered a placeholder or not. The old stuff was removed because people wanted it to go, happy for that to be at the expense of those not complaining about the old stuff.
A lot of fluff 'content' has been added to this game since I bought it, most of which was not aimed at me, a lot of it I have never used. I don't mind, I'm happy to wait as long as I know atmospheric landings & maybe getting out of my seat are coming (and I don't know this, and am not happy about not knowing this far down the line), and stuff other people presumably want is delivered while I wait my turn.
But what I don't want is less game than I had when I bought it. The old exploration modules should still be in the game, even if they are only available to buy in outfitting.
I appreciate you dedication to the old system, very commendable, but no I understand the issue quite well. You keep on saying there was no reason to remove the ADS, well yes there was. It was the decision by FD. They know more about the game, the direction they are taking it, and the effects new additions will have on it. You might think you know more, I might think I know more, but neither of us factor into the calculations.
Apologies, but then why are you still complaining about the removal of the item when you readily admit you understand why it was removed. And I resent the fact you assume I don't understand exploration - would you like it if I said you don't understand the FSS technology because it is too complex for you?
You brought it up M00ka
It is an issue that needs to be addressed. There is no justification for removing them, no functional incompatibility, no reason why they could not have remained, having been in the game as core components for several years. They are 'content' as the OP describes it, and we have less now than we had before. Some do not miss it, that's fine. If mining were removed (and some other way to earn huge sums of cash were added) many would be fine with it because what they like is the feeling of making progress. But some would genuinely miss mining.
You brought it up M00ka
It is an issue that needs to be addressed. There is no justification for removing them, no functional incompatibility, no reason why they could not have remained, having been in the game as core components for several years. They are 'content' as the OP describes it, and we have less now than we had before. Some do not miss it, that's fine. If mining were removed (and some other way to earn huge sums of cash were added) many would be fine with it because what they like is the feeling of making progress. But some would genuinely miss mining.
Good God, it is like headbutting a wall. No the issue doesn't need addressing, there is only a very small minority that are still insisting for the return of the that wretched module. I have said this in the past, you have zero, nil, nada idea what the justification was, unless you are now saying you know more about the inner workings of FD, what their plans are and how everything ties in together. Are you really saying that?
As for your comment about removing mining, are you now alluding the concept that FD have removed exploration? Oh and I am not talking about those that say that simply because they won't use the new feature, that is their personal choice. You stated 'If mining was removed...….', so pray tell, what the heck was I doing the other day for an hour or so?
Just be cognizant of the fact that YOU and YOU alone has decided that the FSS isn't for you. Guess what, changes happen, sometimes you win with the changes, sometimes you miss out. What defines someone is how they handle the changes, do they accept them, adapt to them, learn to use them or do they sit in a corner crying and bemoaning 'oh whoa is me'.
Good God, it's like headbutting a wall. Opinionated contributors feel the need to point out that because they do not miss something that was removed without justification, that those that do miss it are wrong to think so.
M00ka, there was no need to remove them. People wanted the stuff to be removed despite having the stuff they did want added in an entirely compatible way. The old stuff could have remained, and in my view it should be put back in, just as it continues to work in discovered systems.
I am relating this to the topic at hand, you seem insistent on isolating the example as some sort of exception to the topic when it very much is not.
I give up, yes you can have your blessed module back, even if it causes the game to crash. But hey you will be happy won't you. Oh and yes you will now reply asking me how I know the game will crash. The same way you seem to be secure in the fact it won't and everything will be rainbows and pixies. By wild speculation.
Since you seem to be such an expert on the inner coding of the game, maybe you can drop a few lines to FD to help them with the bug infestation they seem to have.
They shouldn't put the ADS back in, because it'll cause the game to crash...
Well, carry on gents, and good luck. o7
Yep, apologies to all, I admit I got carried away. Just got tired of being continuously told that everything would be perfect if the ADS was restored. My bad. ...
They shouldn't put the ADS back in, because it'll cause the game to crash...
Well, carry on gents, and good luck. o7
To be fair to M00ka's point, quite a lot of the recent content has caused bugs to flare up in unexpected ways. I don't see that as justification for not adding stuff though, unless FDev resources are so tight that they must prioritise one over the other in which case not removing stuff that works just fine in the first place seems the optimal win/win path to me.
No one is saying that M00ka.
ETA again to be fair it is the kind of thing Enderby might say
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