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Viajero
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Nah, one clearly sold what it sold during the original open beta and on release day, not stating in public videos and multiple interviews any kind of outlandish claims. Very consistent story all along (wether you like the implementation or not).That would be exactly Elite Dangerous, fitting that description perfectly. Let's not be blind fanboys either
As for SC they'll have to lift that limit considerably if they want to have those bigger ships (buy an Idris !) flying around in the PU.
The other one is still selling “thousands of players” in one instance (or no instances at all) with strong indications it does not intend to deliver at all on that front. Mocking recent statements on the matter should be quite in order.
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I guess you aren't following SC in the past few years? They are actively working towards meshing and have shared news about it constantly. It will just takes years. They will make it happen. SC is selling dreams and is backed by dreamers. As the years go by the dreams come reality. Slowly sure but they are. Doesn't change the fact that global persistence will come and meshing too. Whether it will 2021 or 2022 is up to the deployment of SOCS maturing, i-Cache development and the meshing development that has begun.
But it's not a question of if but when imo.
If you are interested in the latest detailed development situation from October you can read more here: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/i2gtpjaggpg1ir/source/JP07-10_OCS-Boot-Camp.pdf
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Viajero
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I am, 7+ years and counting. If you were following it though those signs of non delivery probably would also be quite clear to you.
You realizing it is not a matter of if it but when imo.
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Chris saying during the CitizenCon 2019 presentation that Server Meshing wouldn't be coming until 2021 was a pleasant surprise to me. Much better than the (false) announcements during previous years: "answer the call 2016", "weeks not months", "Alpha 3.0 before xmas", "sq42 release this year, probably", etc.
The weekly roadmaps still need a lot of improvements, with this year's being still far too optimistic despite the prior claims of being conservative - 20% of Sq42 planned chapter progress completed, and roughly 40% of SC's roadmapped features completed in the past 11 months.
CIG are slowly getting better at managing expectations; a lot of years to go yet.
The weekly roadmaps still need a lot of improvements, with this year's being still far too optimistic despite the prior claims of being conservative - 20% of Sq42 planned chapter progress completed, and roughly 40% of SC's roadmapped features completed in the past 11 months.
CIG are slowly getting better at managing expectations; a lot of years to go yet.
I guess a dozen engineers working and delivering tech that makes meshing eventually possible for some reason is a sign of non delivery? Just read the Jump Point I have sent above in detail and tell me how that constitutes signs of non delivery. I specifically talked about this issue with SpatialOS, Lumberyard and CCP devs. Meshing is a huge challenge and needs a lot of work to make an engine capable of running it.
The above JP details that work starting from 2015 leading all the way up to 2019.
Agreed. His own excitement over the project keeps getting the better of him. His last prediction for SOCS was q4 2019 or q1 2020 back in August. It seems like he was much more accurate this time around. When I talked to him about meshing at CitCon he said that the estimate is 1.5 years of work to go but that it is the most important thing for Star Citizen and that it will make the game come true fully. He was very excited.
Haha! But sure, fact here is it's iyo.
Oh by the way, what's that "i-Cache development"? Another revolutionary never done before tech that'll wax the pipelines and make the dreams come true after Item 2.0, OCS, Server meshing did before?
Note that the August prediction for SOCS ("Q4 2019 or Q1 2020") at the Concierge paid-dinner/sale-event didn't include the caveat that it would be a v1/partial/tier0 implementation that has arrived with 3.8. The complete implementation will likely take many months, if not the whole of 2020.
Same goes for Server Meshing: the initial implementation will be Static Server Meshing, i.e. standard MMO area-instancing. Then sometime (a year or so?) later Dynamic Server Meshing is planned to be implemented.
Well if you take your time to appreciate the amount of work that goes into gamedev and read the JP maybe you will inform yourself a little? Link: https://robertsspaceindustries.com/media/i2gtpjaggpg1ir/source/JP07-10_OCS-Boot-Camp.pdf Love how some forum people think they are smarter than decades long engineers.... Ignorince is bliss.
Non-delivery is the surest sign of non-delivery. 2014 release went well didnt it.
To be fair, the query was "what's that i-cache development?" and the pdf you linked to doesn't contain "cache" let alone an explanation of what it is.
Words, endless rambling words with meandering meaning alongside the endless rambling directionless but constant advertising. It's the one thing that never changes, all talk and no go, chasing unicorns and pixies while confuddling with ancronyms and big words that mean little other than "we can't do what we say we can do", all to rapturous aplause and hero worship of the chosen one, the idiot made king by blind opinion.
Keep following that carrot, just one more step and you'll get it.
Keep following that carrot, just one more step and you'll get it.
Ignorince and repeat
Here is a timestamp of Chris explaining it. It's the internal code name of the global persistence system. Timestamp link at 7.30:
Source: https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?t=450
It's a unified data structure. In order to create on true database across all meshed containers.
It's interesting that it seems to consumers that way. The developers I talked to at GDC who were principal engineers on online games know the struggles of creating a system like this. Especially on a new engine like Lumberyard that is based on a limited multiplayer engine CryEngine. SpatialOS throws dozens of millions of dollars at the issue amounting more funding than a year of CI and yet can only pull of static meshing.
Source: https://youtu.be/-tB3cark5lA?t=450
It's a unified data structure. In order to create on true database across all meshed containers.
It's interesting that it seems to consumers that way. The developers I talked to at GDC who were principal engineers on online games know the struggles of creating a system like this. Especially on a new engine like Lumberyard that is based on a limited multiplayer engine CryEngine. SpatialOS throws dozens of millions of dollars at the issue amounting more funding than a year of CI and yet can only pull of static meshing.
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IDK, but the 3.8 PTU seems pretty fun.
It still has a ways to go before normies will enjoy it, but it's actually coming along nicely. If somewhat slowly.
It still has a ways to go before normies will enjoy it, but it's actually coming along nicely. If somewhat slowly.
That there are people not freaking the heck out over this is depressing.
In any other context it'll be seen as insanity.
I guess there is a true core: Some dreams are called "nightmares" after all. And they are quite persistent, too, in SC. So they kinda fulfilled that aspect - it's just not what everyone thought it would be. Same with the mashing - this design potpourri requires to mash in all kinds of silly stuff to at least show off something - it might not be a game, but it should at least look fine. Can't say about the Chairman's SOCKS, but what do I know - I guess it attracts all kinds of fetish people. And don't get me started on the Apple integration - tho wasn't it Amazon Cloud?
Slowly but surely it's getting there. Also newsweek had an article on the tech stuff.
www.newsweek.com
'Star Citizen's developers explain how SOCS helps create a limitless universe in Alpha 3.8
"Star Citizen" Alpha 3.8 introduces server Object Container Streaming, and you may be wondering what it does. Get the full explanation straight from the game's developers.
www.newsweek.com
Nested database calls to discrete and disparate endpoints that CI-G have absolutely no control over either routing or transactioning?
Yummy!
That’s going to perform just beautifully that is.
Yummy!
That’s going to perform just beautifully that is.
You couldn’t let Star Citizen have a single “never been done before” achievement, could you, you evil hater you!!!
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