Thanks. i am thinking of copying everything, maybe some of it a couple of times. Belt and braises, sort of thing. Then formatting the laptop and 'clean loading' either win 7 again, or win 8.1. Not sure yet.
Windows 10 - finally time to move?
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I love the way he is praised for being so generous; with other peoples money.
Like it or not. It is only our own laziness, that has made Microsoft so big and him, so rich.
I read this a long time ago like when the Yahoo chat boards were all the craze, and obviously this never came to be so we're ok, but i recall reading back then, either someones post or an articile, that computer parts that we can buy to make our own were going to be done away with and replaced with different tier computer boxes with the OS chip-based, like how the old Kick Start Rom worked on Amiga. The OS would be persistent and couldn't be removed or overwritten by the user that way, and only ever updated with an internet connection like how you flash your BIOS.
As for keeping old parts, i do exactly the same. I even have an old floppy disk drive, albeit USB. I have a PS2 keyboard and mouse... somewhere.
That we don't see a problem, doesn't mean a problem doesn't exist. But you can ask some african people what they think of Bill Gate's vaccinations that actually steralise the women. Basically the gist of what is being said here is "You'll die if you don't let me experiment on you".
As for the security stuff, well this video popped up in a quick search. I just wanted something to show you rather than have you use your imagination reading text here on the forum.
It starts at 0:50
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I mean, the control over assembly is just too practical to the different use-cases for hardware for them to ever switch it not to be modular.
Locking down of what we can do with it tends to occur in less direct ways.
When they changed how USB is handled to move it off the board and onto the CPU, for example, the old hacks for loading Windows 7 install sticks became a problem. Prior to this the workarounds were relatively simple. Because the Win7 installer has no support for USB 3 and requires USB 2 - and with most boards only having one USB 2 port, so you couldn't connect a keyboard or mouse to operate the installer AND also have the install stick connected at the same time - you'd either use a PS/2 keyboard and hook the installer up to the USB 2 port, or if it had no PS/2 interface, you could set up an AFK installer which would automatically make all your selections, negating the need for a human interface, or if you were truly hardcore you'd manually unpack the installer, preload it with USB 3 drivers for the board in question, repack it, and run it that way. Since encountering several Ryzen boards, several of those hacks don't work any more, since it's not possible to get the win7 installer to recognise ANY of the USB ports prior to setting up the OS and installing the drivers in there, so I've resorted on those systems to installing it from a SATA DVD drive using a PS/2 keyboard. Long term, as fewer boards retain PS/2 ports, those DVDs will need to become AFK installers, and eventually I have no doubt SATA will be replaced, just as it replaced IDE, at which point Win7 installs will probably be impossible. Though by then legacy BIOS support will likely be dropped from most boards too.
Well they'd still be modular, in so far as you being able to put in a bigger hard drive, like it is on games consoles. Then again, now with the cloud storage they'd probably just say you don't need to have that ability because, well, "just use our cloud storage to keep all your private things safe".
The big kick in the asteroids will be if/when they impliment something like an internet-wide protocol that dictates you can't connect to any service due to your system not being the latest hardware (or just certified by BIOS update or something) and up-to-date OS. Think along the lines of being banned from somewhere by machine ID and other fingerprints.
If they couldn't get it global in a timely fashion, they'd certainly still just go with regional or per nation until the rest got it implimented.
So even if you kept old hardware and old OS, you'd be prevented from getting online.
Foundations for this are already in place with things like the "internet kill switch" - (I think it's the Virginia govt that is going to roll that out when they start taking the 2nd amendment away?) - although the method may look different, it's easily built-on to roll that type of thing out to all ISPs and lock you out that way.
For example, when you try to connect online with a "Non-kosher" or "Non-Kosherised" hardware and/or OS, you'd get an ISP message pop up with something like "You're not running Windows 10 (or some other brand-locked corporate scum environment) so unfortunately you are unable to access online featues".
Then if you complained about any of that, you'd get the argument "well they are a private company so they can ban you if they like" and "If you've nothing to hide...".
The big kick in the asteroids will be if/when they impliment something like an internet-wide protocol that dictates you can't connect to any service due to your system not being the latest hardware (or just certified by BIOS update or something) and up-to-date OS. Think along the lines of being banned from somewhere by machine ID and other fingerprints.
If they couldn't get it global in a timely fashion, they'd certainly still just go with regional or per nation until the rest got it implimented.
So even if you kept old hardware and old OS, you'd be prevented from getting online.
Foundations for this are already in place with things like the "internet kill switch" - (I think it's the Virginia govt that is going to roll that out when they start taking the 2nd amendment away?) - although the method may look different, it's easily built-on to roll that type of thing out to all ISPs and lock you out that way.
For example, when you try to connect online with a "Non-kosher" or "Non-Kosherised" hardware and/or OS, you'd get an ISP message pop up with something like "You're not running Windows 10 (or some other brand-locked corporate scum environment) so unfortunately you are unable to access online featues".
Then if you complained about any of that, you'd get the argument "well they are a private company so they can ban you if they like" and "If you've nothing to hide...".
Over-reaction based on ignorance. There's laws that protect your privacy and Microsoft is bound to follow them.
There are ways to lock down any computer it's not limited to just certain OS
Silly.
How is it silly, when Barnacules and even Linus have made videos about it and how bad it is? I linked the video for you to see for yourself.
As for not being limited, well depending on what you need a computer for, yes, you certainly are if what you need to do isn't an ability on another OS.
Nothing beats win 10 for gaming.
That's your problem, methinks.
My advice on 'updating' to W10 would be:
keep the other computer you have near, with relevant google searches through the procedure open
revert back to W7 if you have the option
save/copy everything you want to keep elsewhere
create an install media: USB stick or DVD (8 BG or bigger stick will do, IIRC DVD needs to be double layer) with the preaviously linked Media Creation Tool
boot the lappy with said install media
keep nothing, aka do a clean install (give the 25-digit Windows Key when asked, the one which activated your W7 back then should work and prompt the installer to install relevant verion of W10)
-at this point (if you've backed up all you want to keep) it is simplest to delete all partitions of the c: -drive, otherwise the installer may throw an error about MBR
don't give an e-mail adress when asked => create an offline account ("limited" is what the dumb program may call it)
now you lappy should work, with new clean install of W10 on it
P.S
writing this on a 2011 laptop, which came with W7, did the procedure I outlined and it works fine
8 is basically early 10 so... no.
You're due for a new lappy/box. I think the game is worth it to do it.
I replaced a 10yr old Vista box for Elite AHHAHAHAHHAHAHHHHAa
Hello!
Today Im going to install win10 on a brand new ssd (but Im keeping my hdd with win7). I am installing it from a usb 3 stick, is that good or should I use usb2?
Besides the usual dreadfull things like turning off the spyware and installing gazillions of programs I am faced with another problem:
I would like to migrate my cmdr data from the hdd to the ssd. What kind of files do I have to copy to where on win 10 so I dont lose any cmdr data like the star cache.
Im running a back up script:
So I know where these files are. Do I know of all files that must be copied?
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
Today Im going to install win10 on a brand new ssd (but Im keeping my hdd with win7). I am installing it from a usb 3 stick, is that good or should I use usb2?
Besides the usual dreadfull things like turning off the spyware and installing gazillions of programs I am faced with another problem:
I would like to migrate my cmdr data from the hdd to the ssd. What kind of files do I have to copy to where on win 10 so I dont lose any cmdr data like the star cache.
Im running a back up script:
Code:
@echo on
start "Fraps" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Fraps\fraps.exe"
start "EDDiscovery" "C:\Program Files\EDDiscovery\EDDiscovery.exe"
start "MarketConnector" "C:\Program Files (x86)\EDMarketConnector\EDMarketConnector.exe"
start "Elite" "C:\Program Files (x86)\Frontier\EDLaunch\EDLaunch.exe"
xcopy "C:\Program Files (x86)\Frontier\EDLaunch\Products\elite-dangerous-64\Logs\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Logs" /D /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\159572\*.dat" "D:\Elite Dangerous\ImportedStars" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\AppData\Local\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory\*.*" "D:\Elite Dangerous\CommanderHistory" /H /O /Y
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.log" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /D
xcopy "C:\Users\Admin\Saved Games\Frontier Developments\Elite Dangerous\*.json" "D:\Elite Dangerous\Journal" /H /O /Y
pauseSo I know where these files are. Do I know of all files that must be copied?
- The above
- app data folder -- what files? all of it? The controls of course, the graficconfiglocal, star cache, ??
- ed discovery database -- How do I migrate edd?
- appconfiglocal.xml
Any help would be appreciated, thank you.
@Para Handy is very knowledgeable about the file tree.
OK, you first, as you're online.
I brought the Tosh 2011 (W7) to play EVE. It worked fine, I only left the game because they nerfed my Scorpion long range missile boat. Then I found ED and being a fan of the 84 game, I brought the game and all the while dangerous was running, the Tosh worked fine. However: After the launch of Horizions, I started to have issues with the Tosh running the game. Now I have my partners spawn upstairs, who life is just playing games. He said, one of the basic issues I would have with the Tosh, is the history of 'junk' slowing the computer down, more and more. So, I looked around, for something within my budget and found my H.P. Which has an AMD A8 & Radeon R5 graphics card. Now because of the 'junk' thing, I decided to use it exclusively for ED. Which I have done, until the last week. No emails, no forums just to play elite and record it using OBS. Today I realised that the HP is win8.1 and the spell checker is set to U.S. spelling.
So, I have a laptop to use, but would prefer to keep using the other one for my day to day stuff and keep this one for Elite. I am not, 100% at this time, buying another machine, because, at this time, I can't justify the expense. So I will keep trying to resolve the issues I have with the Tosh, Which right now, only seems to be, just the video stuff. Which 'has to be' resolvable.
I think that you are right.
I'll copy everything on to something external and basically re-boot it.
I don't think I had a windows key, it had win 7 installed and if I remember correctly, I just switched it on and took it from there.
Not giving an email address, sounds good to me, although I do have another I could use.
I have a report, which I got yesterday. Which tells me everything about the laptop, but reading it just turns my brain to mush. Mostly it tells me what all the parts are, however, there is a lot of extra stuff, when it goes into the graphics side of things, but it means nothing to me.
I do logistics and I am a time and motion psycho, who can tell you how to pack an Elephant up a mouse's bottom and then how to move it, anywhere you want it; but this stuff, just does my head in. I think at an early stage, during my learning about PC technology etc., I realised that it keeps changing and so I gave up totally and would simply ask a technology psycho, to resolve any issues I have. For me, it is easier that way.
There are utils out there that will read your product key.
Most boxes that had Win 7 installed when sold at retail had a small sticker on them with the product key on the outside, but either way you should be able to read it as posted above.
how to read win7 product key - Google Search
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Most boxes that had Win 7 installed when sold at retail had a small sticker on them with the product key on the outside, but either way you should be able to read it as posted above.
Thanks, just looked unneath the Tosh & there it is.
Ninja'd by zieman
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I need sync over a few devices so have to tie it to email.