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Thanks a lot Ashnak and others. ( Typing on my MacBook Pro 17-inch, Early 2008) 
All right, that lifted the fog a wee bit better now. I was not aware that PC gamers usually dish out additional bucks for multiplayer.
Stay safe there in S-Germany, some very heavy rain, severe flooding down the pipe.
All right, that lifted the fog a wee bit better now. I was not aware that PC gamers usually dish out additional bucks for multiplayer.
Stay safe there in S-Germany, some very heavy rain, severe flooding down the pipe.
And then some... I'd love an RTX2080ti but that's almost the cost of new PC all by itself
But was that not always the case? In todays money I would have paid 570 bucks when I hooked up "surround gaming" in 2002 with three monitors via a PCI matrox parhelia triple head. Gaming was not my main thing, but sequencing music which was a dream ocme true spread across three screens. Never can have enough screen estate for music.And then some... I'd love an RTX2080ti but that's almost the cost of new PC all by itself
The Zotac Twin Fan model sold for £870 last November. But the volatiliy is crazy. If one is serious about it, he better buys when bitcoin is down. LOL
I'm not sure if you understand correctly.Thanks a lot Ashnak and others. ( Typing on my MacBook Pro 17-inch, Early 2008)
All right, that lifted the fog a wee bit better now. I was not aware that PC gamers usually dish out additional bucks for multiplayer.
Stay safe there in S-Germany, some very heavy rain, severe flooding down the pipe.
A PC have a cost, yes, but typically you don't pay anything extra to get multiplayer. If you're paying for an internet connection, you have access to multiplayer (in games supporting multiplayer).
My understanding is that for CONSOLES (please correct me if I'm wrong) you can be connected to the internet and play games, but to play multiplayer you need to pay an additional subscription, even though you're already paying your internet provider for internet. With a console you are also paying the console company specifically to play multiplayer.
Thanks, but I live pretty much on top of a local hill. I'm more concerned about the wind (but fortunately, most of the village is serving as my windbreak).
Don't most of the MMOs run on a subscription basis? Or is this simply my distorted perception, as I don't play them and only read the wrong press articles?
A normal mmo doesn't have a single player gameplay option, so I wouldn't really call elite an mmo. Especially considering the few people you encounter even in open. It's an RPG for sure, but my understanding is that the "massive" in mmo refer to lots of people.
Games can have different income models. One is pay up front with no subscription, which is typical for single player games. MMORPG frequently have subscriptions. MOBA have micro transactions, and many games these days use this. That's where Elite fall, you pay a small amount up front, but any continued support for the upkeep of the game is from purchasing cosmetics. I can't of the top of my head think of any game where you buy it and can play it single player, and then have to pay extra for multiplayer on PC (assuming you got an internet connection already). It's not a model I've heard used on PC for any game. And if this is what console does, my understanding is that it's not the GAME which requires the payment, but the console. Similar to how you pay Spotify for music, Netflix for TV, you pay Xbox/PS4 for multiplayer.
Decited to pootle around near the birth of human kind (allegedly) on Europa. Got me to wondering - and here's my wondering face:
... where are all the moons? When I look at the system map for Sol, there are a few, for example, for Jupiter and Saturn, but these gassy chaps have a lot moe than that:
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
Obviously, they couldn't all be in there but I would have thought more could have been. I wonder why not? And I wonder if there was a restriction of some kind? And why we're at it, I want to land on Triton. That red circle around it is annoying. Perhaps the clues to Raxxla lie on that planets' surface.
... where are all the moons? When I look at the system map for Sol, there are a few, for example, for Jupiter and Saturn, but these gassy chaps have a lot moe than that:
Moons of Jupiter - Wikipedia
Moons of Saturn - Wikipedia
Obviously, they couldn't all be in there but I would have thought more could have been. I wonder why not? And I wonder if there was a restriction of some kind? And why we're at it, I want to land on Triton. That red circle around it is annoying. Perhaps the clues to Raxxla lie on that planets' surface.
Maybe Triton is Raxxla, they have the same number of letters and we can’t get to either one coincidence?Decited to pootle around near the birth of human kind (allegedly) on Europa. Got me to wondering - and here's my wondering face:
... where are all the moons? When I look at the system map for Sol, there are a few, for example, for Jupiter and Saturn, but these gassy chaps have a lot moe than that:
Moons of Jupiter - Wikipedia
Moons of Saturn - Wikipedia
Obviously, they couldn't all be in there but I would have thought more could have been. I wonder why not? And I wonder if there was a restriction of some kind? And why we're at it, I want to land on Triton. That red circle around it is annoying. Perhaps the clues to Raxxla lie on that planets' surface.
One does not "build" a ship unless they are playing Space Engineers (or one of the clones)
Assemble might suit? Although you buy an initially functional (arguable..) ship, where you just use the hull and add appropriate modules for the specific role. You don't need to know how something goes where, just decide what to put where.One does not "build" a ship unless they are playing Space Engineers (or one of the clones)
Well, I've changed everything but the hull, including the gas tankOne does not "build" a ship unless they are playing Space Engineers (or one of the clones)
Seriously though, building ships is one of my favorite things to do in the game. I came over from sim-racing, where tuning and setup of the suspension etc. is "mandatory". It's kind of easy enough to build the ship you think you want in ED, but finding the porper "sweet spot" is equally hard. Finding the perfect balance between mass, performance, agility, price, engineering costs, survivability and deadliness is a lot more complicated than setting it up on Coriolis. It's a great start, but if you want the build to be just right, it's as complicated as setting up a race car in Assetto Corsa. And it takes a lot of "practice laps" to get a feeling of whether all those numbers add up to what you expected.
Haven't played SE, but I think it lacks the option to travel to Beagle Point, once you finish building.
Btw. My use of the word "build" originates here:
Biker Build-Off - Wikipedia
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Got tired of 'working' for a living, so i jumped back in the DBX and we started the long trek out to Aquila's Halo.The first 2000ly seems like a mad dash to get away from anything resembling civilization, then things settle down and we get into the swing of things,Jump honk scan,and a comfortable numbness sets in
as system after system falls away behind us
Came upon a ringed waterworld which was very pleasing,and finally my first hard landing of the voyage, which caused some hull damage,but i am prepared for such eventualities and materials are plentiful.
.Another 1100ly and we will cross the border into the Orion Cygnus arm. Excelsior!
as system after system falls away behind us
Came upon a ringed waterworld which was very pleasing,and finally my first hard landing of the voyage, which caused some hull damage,but i am prepared for such eventualities and materials are plentiful.
.Another 1100ly and we will cross the border into the Orion Cygnus arm. Excelsior!
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I was wondering why it was taking so long to take down NPC ships in combat, and today I figured it out. I had disabled 2 of the 4 multi-cannons in my Alpha strike fire group.
I took an imperial navy salvage mission. This is the first time I tried that type of mission. I arrived at the USS, but not long after I launched my collector limpets I got jumped by 6 NPC ships. I tried to fight a bit, but they were chewing through my shields pretty fast, so I high waked out of there. Then I came back for another attempt. I collected one of the items I needed to get before I had to jump out again. This time I didn't try to fight. I just collected the item with a limpet and split. I did the same thing on my third attempt and completed that part of the mission.
Then on my return to the station that I took the mission from I was interdicted twice by deadly Anacondas. They were no match for my engineered Corvette. I collected more mats and 400k in bounties. And I got promoted to Master on top of that. Not bad for a day's work.
I took an imperial navy salvage mission. This is the first time I tried that type of mission. I arrived at the USS, but not long after I launched my collector limpets I got jumped by 6 NPC ships. I tried to fight a bit, but they were chewing through my shields pretty fast, so I high waked out of there. Then I came back for another attempt. I collected one of the items I needed to get before I had to jump out again. This time I didn't try to fight. I just collected the item with a limpet and split. I did the same thing on my third attempt and completed that part of the mission.
Then on my return to the station that I took the mission from I was interdicted twice by deadly Anacondas. They were no match for my engineered Corvette. I collected more mats and 400k in bounties. And I got promoted to Master on top of that. Not bad for a day's work.
All that Info about console, PC, servers, gaming got me thinking.
I consider my freezer to be an essential in our day to day life, ymmv, mainly because I cook everything fresh und buy meat from the producer twice a year. Hence, I got one of the most efficient freezers on the market back in 2017, and while at an expense, even with 72 hours of power outage, the food will be frozen and safe, and power usage is on the very low side.
One research pointed out that in the US gaming energy consumption outranks the energy consumption of all freezers
combined.
Then there is this:
Global Internet Traffic
1992- 100 GB per day
1997- 100 GB per hour
2002- 100 GB per second
2007- 2000 GB per second
2017- 46,600 GB per second
2022- 150,700 GB per second
source: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solut...working-index-vni/white-paper-c11-741490.html
just thinking out loud....
I consider my freezer to be an essential in our day to day life, ymmv, mainly because I cook everything fresh und buy meat from the producer twice a year. Hence, I got one of the most efficient freezers on the market back in 2017, and while at an expense, even with 72 hours of power outage, the food will be frozen and safe, and power usage is on the very low side.
One research pointed out that in the US gaming energy consumption outranks the energy consumption of all freezers
combined.Then there is this:
Global Internet Traffic
1992- 100 GB per day
1997- 100 GB per hour
2002- 100 GB per second
2007- 2000 GB per second
2017- 46,600 GB per second
2022- 150,700 GB per second
source: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solut...working-index-vni/white-paper-c11-741490.html
just thinking out loud....
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Try and do the math. It's not very difficult. You have an exponential growth of the bits flipped and transferred globally. It takes a certain minimum amount of energy to flip a bit, called the Landauer Limit. We are not even close to the Limit today, and use far more energy per bit, but because technology becomes more and more energy efficient, the amount of energy needed for flipping a bit drops exponentially as well. It's basically Moore's law, struggling against itself.All that Info about console, PC, servers, gaming got me thinking.
I consider my freezer to be an essential in our day to day life, ymmv, mainly because I cook everything fresh und buy meat from the producer twice a year. Hence, I got one of the most efficient freezers on the market back in 2017, and while at an expense, even with 72 hours of power outage, the food will be frozen and safe, and power usage is on the very low side.
One research pointed out that in the US gaming energy consumption outranks the energy consumption of all freezers
Then there is this:
Global Internet Traffic
1992- 100 GB per day
1997- 100 GB per hour
2002- 100 GB per second
2007- 2000 GB per second
2017- 46,600 GB per second
2022- 150,700 GB per second
source: https://www.cisco.com/c/en/us/solut...working-index-vni/white-paper-c11-741490.html
just thinking out loud....
So combining the exponential growth in bits, with the exponential decrease in energy per bit, what do we get? Because the number of bits increases faster than the energy needed per bit decreases, the combined result is still an exponential growth of the energy we use. I can't remember the exact numbers, but if you calculate the two exponential functions and combine them, you get that in roughly 30 years, we will use an amount of energy for IT each year, resembling the current annual global energy consumption. That seems highly unlikely, so we'll probably see the development stop before that. Even more grotesque is that if we continued for ~300 years, we would have to convert all the known matter in the Observable Universe into energy (by multiplying with the speed of light squared), just to run Facebook, Instagram or whatever people use to exchange moving images of naked women and sweet cats in 2520.
“The greatest shortcoming of the human race is our inability to understand the exponential function.”
― Albert A. Bartlett
Yes!
Landauer Limit Demonstrated
Scientists show that a 50-year-old principle limiting future CMOS computing is real: Erasing information gives off heat
spectrum.ieee.org
Yessss!
Even more so: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00090/full
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You're taking the red pills. That's a mistake I can warn against doing. Take the blue pills instead, and if you chose the red pills, don't eat all of them at once. That's what I did. Emptied the whole glass of red pills down the throat. Now, I mostly meet people telling me that what I say is probably true, but it's too depressing to contemplate, "...so shut the beep up". You'll be much more happy staying ignorant, for as long as it lastsYes!
Landauer Limit Demonstrated
Scientists show that a 50-year-old principle limiting future CMOS computing is real: Erasing information gives off heat
Yessss!
Even more so: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fnsys.2016.00090/full
I was playing a bit of No Man's Sky and thinking about the New Era release of Elite Dangerous that's scheduled for late this year. Combining ED's graphics and space flight with some atmospheric flight and the ability to roam around outside the ship on foot...I have to admit it would be cool.
Imagine something like this (only better and more real-looking), with a Krait or Asp flying.
I don't know what the New Era will bring, but I can dream, right?
Imagine something like this (only better and more real-looking), with a Krait or Asp flying.
I don't know what the New Era will bring, but I can dream, right?