IF Space Legs, Atmospheric Planets and Base Building are not part of New Era...

[Patrick_68000]

We are both people who already bought the game, so that's the perspective we both see it from.



They'll see the hype in the gaming press/cinema (based on past trailers) when FDEV's marketing give a green light on press coverage of new era which won't happen too early as it'll die down before release and can't happen before they know with reasonable certainty exactly whats going to make the final cut plus an accurate estimate of a subsequent release date.

Wait and see.

You talk about the "New Era"

I'm talking about the current game and the current sales.

I mean a little bit of press advertising (for example for the Fleet carrier) would bring new customers before the New Era.

But Frontier knows what it is doing and probably does not need new customers currently for ED.

 

[Stigbob]

You talk about the "New Era"

I'm talking about the current game and the current sales.

I mean a little bit of press advertising (for example for the Fleet carrier) would bring new customers before the New Era.

But Frontier knows what it is doing and probably does not need new customers currently for ED.

Anyone finding out about ED today would probably look into it see new DLC was due soon(tm) and wait since there are generally deals on the go around launches. Spaceships is a fairly niche thing, I've yet to meet any genre fans who haven't actually heard of it already so if they haven't jumped in yet they've no real reason to prior to new era landing.

Ones who really want feet badly and had their fingers burned by SC and NMS are fairly common, they'd probably wait to see if its feet next. Which from their perspective is only sensible.

 

[[VR] Bac Ho]

a massive expansion of the base game......

some examples
1) npcs with skills which you can train on your crew - Elite flavour would be E through to A rating I suppose - trade negotiator, science officer, explorer, medical officer, engineering technician, pilot (we have already), gunner.
then make ships of a certain size need crew to fly - on buying they come with a basic crew to allow you to fly, there is a lot they could do with that.

2) wingmates, some that you can hire to do a mission, alternatively missions to join a wing to do something. sometimes you are wing commander othertimes you do what you are told (complete with basic orders option, cover me, attack my target, go on ahead, stay back etc) like SLF pilot but in a proper ship and able to go into supercruise.

3) more time spent on getting persistant npcs, they dont ALL need to be but some should be, and we get to meet up with them again - sometimes good sometimes bad.

4) another mission overhaul with a bunch of new templates.

the difficulty is charging for this........ a lot of that really needs to be in the base game and i think some would quite fairly expect it to be free which is why i am almost certain 2020 update will either be atmospherics of some description or space legs, then i hope the above 1-4 go in as bonus QOL extras for everyone (but there could be extra crew features IF you have the DLC... perhaps you just get basic crew for free, but if you have DLC you get missions to increase training or to find more expert crew with more than 1 skill etc)

I would be more than happy to throw a ton of money at FD if they did all of the above. After atmospheric planets this would be next on the list.

 

[Rat Catcher]

You talk about the "New Era"

I'm talking about the current game and the current sales.

I mean a little bit of press advertising (for example for the Fleet carrier) would bring new customers before the New Era.

But Frontier knows what it is doing and probably does not need new customers currently for ED.

Odd that Frontiers own accounts show a steady stream of sales of ED, which will no doubt be bolstered by whatever the DLC for Q4 might be, so why would they need to raise awareness in the gaming press continually - when FC's is just a promised update to complete Horizons/Beyond or whatever - when best 'bang for the buck' will be gained by the fanfare for new DLC?

We appear to have new players aplenty, if you have spent any time in the locked n00bs systems recently, where everyone is in open, it is surprisingly well populated.

 

[babelfisch]

You talk about the "New Era"

I'm talking about the current game and the current sales.

I mean a little bit of press advertising (for example for the Fleet carrier) would bring new customers before the New Era.

But Frontier knows what it is doing and probably does not need new customers currently for ED.

They will give out material to the media when FCs get officially announced.

 

[AbsinthSvK]

Colour dash board change (I can only pray and hope) this will be more for the console users both Xbox and PS4.

that would be hilarious when they come with this as main point of update or as paid DLC.

Everyone expect legs, atmo, but no probably colour dash board or new ships as always.

 

[zimms]

that would be hilarious when they come with this as main point of update or as paid DLC.

Everyone expect legs, atmo, but no probably colour dash board or new ships as always.

Kind of like the throttle chevrons?

 

[Neutronium]

Now that I am thinking of it: It took only one year since release to get planetary landings on non-atmospheric worlds and then.. nothing. I think that was a strategic mistake from FD. They should have left planetary landings on non-atmospheric worlds for 2020s new era. Everything else would have been introduced as is now. No current content requires planetary landings. Every aspect of the game could have been limited and accomplished in space. Engineers? In outposts. Most of them in Hutton orbital.. if not all.
Materials? In deep space. The rarest the deeper. 1ly in supercruise to find the most rare. And so on and so forth..
That way we would have said WOW we got planetary landings yeah!

 

[Navigare Necesse Est]

Now that I am thinking of it: It took only one year since release to get planetary landings on non-atmospheric worlds and then.. nothing. I think that was a strategic mistake from FD. They should have left planetary landings on non-atmospheric worlds for 2020s new era. Everything else would have been introduced as is now. No current content requires planetary landings. Every aspect of the game could have been limited and accomplished in space. Engineers? In outposts. Most of them in Hutton orbital.. if not all.
Materials? In deep space. The rarest the deeper. 1ly in supercruise to find the most rare. And so on and so forth..
That way we would have said WOW we got planetary landings yeah!

On the contrary. It was good to release planetary landings. This way players at least got something for their buck.

 

[Rat Catcher]

...No current content requires planetary landings....

I beg to differ...
Collecting materials on planetary bodies (e.g. Crystal Shards) would be somewhat tedious if we had to shoot off 'bits' from space organisms and collect them either with a prodigious number of Collector Limpets, or scoot around capturing the bits in an open cargo hatch. Lower value raw mats would be gathered solely by laser mining, planetary base missions non-existent... Guardian / Thargoid sites...

Even the limited planetary landing experiences we have add value to the game, even if they have no 'atmosphere' (sorry )

 

[insanephoton]

Honestly if it's not at least one of those three options in the title I'm struggling to imagine what would be worth it for a paid dlc. Asking people to pay for bug fixing and QoL updates is probably not a flyer.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Anyone finding out about ED today would probably look into it see new DLC was due soon(tm) and wait since there are generally deals on the go around launches.

I’m not sure that everyone has as elaborate a thought as yours.

 

[Stigbob]

I’m not sure that everyone has as elaborate a thought as yours.

I agree, most see no further than their own opinions/preconceptions.

 

[Patrick_68000]

Odd that Frontiers own accounts show a steady stream of sales of ED, which will no doubt be bolstered by whatever the DLC for Q4 might be, so why would they need to raise awareness in the gaming press continually - when FC's is just a promised update to complete Horizons/Beyond or whatever - when best 'bang for the buck' will be gained by the fanfare for new DLC?

We appear to have new players aplenty, if you have spent any time in the locked n00bs systems recently, where everyone is in open, it is surprisingly well populated.

Perhaps new sales are from Steam ?

 

[Patrick_68000]

They will give out material to the media when FCs get officially announced.

Would be the minimum to do.

 

[Patrick_68000]

I agree, most see no further than their own opinions/preconceptions.

So goes the world for the greater benefit of people with an open mind.

 

[Neutronium]

I beg to differ...
Collecting materials on planetary bodies (e.g. Crystal Shards) would be somewhat tedious if we had to shoot off 'bits' from space organisms and collect them either with a prodigious number of Collector Limpets, or scoot around capturing the bits in an open cargo hatch. Lower value raw mats would be gathered solely by laser mining, planetary base missions non-existent... Guardian / Thargoid sites...

Even the limited planetary landing experiences we have add value to the game, even if they have no 'atmosphere' (sorry )

All this is equally tedious / grindy either in space or on planet surface. No difference whatsoever. Admit it. From purely gameplay perspective the only reason to prefer planetary surface driving in an srv (or walking for leg lovers ) & near surface flying is purely aesthetic.

 

[Rat Catcher]

All this is equally tedious / grindy either in space or on planet surface. No difference whatsoever. Admit it. From purely gameplay perspective the only reason to prefer planetary surface driving in an srv (or walking for leg lovers ) & near surface flying is purely aesthetic.

Oddly enough, it isn't tedious / grindy... But perceptions differ and 'need' for entertainment outside of one's own imagination is not uncommon. I've never had to 'grind' for anything in-game, but that is probably all down to attitude

 

[[VR] Mad Mike]

Oddly enough, it isn't tedious / grindy... But perceptions differ and 'need' for entertainment outside of one's own imagination is not uncommon. I've never had to 'grind' for anything in-game, but that is probably all down to attitude

I rarely find ED grindy tho I must admit I do think the game sometimes relies too much on just putting the hrs in rather than rewarding those who use a bit of skill. That said it has improved a lot over time in that area.

Take USSes up untill recently there was no need to look for them and indeed looking for them was slower than waiting for them to spawn. Best was was throttle down and let them come to you.

Combine that with the amount you needed to visit when you only got 1 mat per pick up, I can see why some felt that grindy.
Whilst not perfect (imo) it is far better now.

 

[Layne Vakarian]

I rarely find ED grindy tho that said I do think the game sometimes relies too much on just putting the hrs in rather than rewarding those who use a bit of skill. That said it has improved a lot over time in that area.

Take USSes up untill recently there was no need to look for them and indeed looking for them was slower than waiting for them to spawn. Best was was throttle down and let them come to you.

Combine that with the amount you needed to visit when you only got 1 mat per pick up, I can see why some felt that grindy.
Whilst not perfect now (imo) it is far better now.

Hah! Looking for USSs. Looking for (then so called) UAs. Hours. Hours and hours and hours. Then UPs. In Fleet Convoys. In USSs. Yet more...you get the picture.
Never felt grindy though.

Actually it felt kind of real.

I know, I know, I'm a nerd.