At this point we’re at a weird situation where CIG running out of money would actually increase the chances of the backers actually getting a game out of this,I can see someone taking this on and finishing it to an acceptable standard,CIG have been treading water for a while now and there seems to be no end to development and why would they when they can continue to charge large sums for very little.
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Never seen any reports of that one yet...at all. Not on the issue council either so if it was prevalent or had happened to anyone but the vid creator...someone else would have reported it. I'd suggest the idiot making the vid has other computer biffery issues going on there besides Star Citizen
Had a quick look, there seems to be a few:
Here's that guy:
OPENING DOOR CAUSING PC TO RESTART. VIDEO INCLUDED.
He seems to have pretty good specs: 'I have no pc issues, 7700k, 750w psu, 2080ti, 16gb 3200, MVME drive for game'. That PSU should be fine, unless it's faulty, but sounds like it's standing up elsewhere.
Then there's these ones for 3.8:
PC CRASH AND REBOOT WHEN I TRY TO LEAVE HAB
MOBYGLASS HITTTING F1/F2 RANDOMLY CRASHES PC TO RESTART
COMPUTER SWITCHES OFF
COMPUTER CRASH WHEN ENTERING QUANTUM JUMP
MY PC REBOOTS WITH 3.8
Then there's various soft-lock ones, and the usual load of client crashes. But the complete reboot does seem to be a thing for a few people. (Just searched for: restart / reboot / crash / computer, and stopped when entries hit 3.7 etc. There's probably more out there under broader searches
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Apparently he was there but not on stage as it were.
Which is more than the supposed head of marketing, Sandi, who was not at their biggest marketing event of the year. If she was sick, you'd expect them to say that, and offer her apologies. Instead she was just a no show.
What amazes me is just how long it keeps them amused, all the while giggling like girls.
Ahhh of course... I see now it's SDC and Harry Potter herself. It all makes sense now.
SC's loss is ED's gain!
Yeah, he was probably backstage right next to the magical dev build with 100 systems and server meshing.
Nope. That 2080Ti and 7700K will hit pretty hard on that PSU, especially if it's old or bad quality, and worse with bad overclocking or cooling. Motherboard VRMs might also be faulty at that point.
This instant reboot is exactly, typically a PSU issue, and when the game creates a sudden load on CPU/GPU the PSU will have to send a current spike. In that case it will not... It also happens in other power hungry applications, with the same result.
And SC is using the notoriously power hungry (read: terribly programming) CryEngine which they push way beyond its limitations. To these people i'd suggest trying Prime95 and a GPU load test of their choice running at the same time to see if they also get that reboot... beware in case of bad cooling, that means dead components. PSU explosive deaths are not unheard of either..
As for that HarryPotter spawn killing loop: it's par for the course. I didnt expect any less... Notice the fidelicious physics by the way, or the characters strafing at quantum speeds...
Where are any of them? All the marquee names have been relegated to some dusty old storage closet by the look of things, even the ones who more obviously wanted to use the whole project to get their name out there and to pad their “appeared in…” lists.*BTW: wasn't Erin hired for SQ42 initially? Where is Erin?
Maybe. My first impression was that it sounds like a bad memory stick issue: it's all fine and dandy until he opens the door and a lot more stuff has be loaded in, at which point the game starts fondling the bad stick, at which point the whole computer nopes out. Then again, that should be readily apparent even in other situations, so if it's just SC then the bad engine fundamentals would probably point to a sudden peak of strenuous activity.
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In that case, would you care to elaborate why you almost swoon over the money raked in by CI? Given the discrepancy between money rolling in and features making it into the game? Or progress in general, such as the lousy 100 systems being promised, and -- to take the Anvil Carrack as an example -- the complete absence of certain roles?
Personally, I'd be gratified if the game actually went somewhere. CI reminds of me dudes who waste all their income on trivial stuff, then start whining that they can't pay their rent or provide for their families.--
…and let's not forget that according to ChrisMaths™, CI¬G has currently raked in the equivalent of 1.2 billion buckazoids for the purpose of determining how much development they've been able to afford. Or, well… “afford” in the sense that they're not even remotely covering their costs.
I'll bow to experience! (I'm no power user and I don't really overclock).
It still seems surprising to me that 750w isn't giving him some headroom though. Just having a quick dig:
Stock 108ti
Graphics Card Power: 250W
Recommended System Power: 650W
i7-7700K
Power Consumption: 60W approx
That seems to fit with my expectations that he's not exactly running light for a default rig. (Although the vid does suggest a love of gaudy peripherals
)Even though bug reports are often outliers, I still find it intriguing that there were at least 6 reports in a 2 month period though. It's a shame that the other reports didn't include PSU info for a comparison.
(PS FWIW I did a round of the ED issues site as well to compare. No returns for the same time period [Jan update], but there was one example lurking from a year ago
)I dunno, still feels like something's up there. I'm just gonna amuse myself imagining future citizen tech support for now...
"Your SSD's looking good, but you'll need to up that PSU to 1000W..."
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TDP is not power consumption, it's a thermal profile ! That CPU is quite a bit more power hungry. Also a 2080Ti will pump a bit more than that on full power... And you have to add the motherboard itself, and everything else..
And again, that's absolutely symptomatic of a power issue. Even a faulty RAM chip would actually result in a BSOD. Complete and brutal reboot is a PSU fault, or VRM fault. There can be multiple causes but usually the first remedy is to throw the PSU into a recycling bin, and get a fresh one. Next is CPU cooling, might be a thermal spike, that also can result in a cut off if really, really it's going way overboard..
A 750W PSU would be perfectly fine for that setup if that were a good one (Seasonic for instance). I have seen a lot of off-brand PSUs that did not deliver what they advertised (and even one or two that blew up, with flames..), also faulty capacitors is a thing.
And again, that's absolutely symptomatic of a power issue. Even a faulty RAM chip would actually result in a BSOD. Complete and brutal reboot is a PSU fault, or VRM fault. There can be multiple causes but usually the first remedy is to throw the PSU into a recycling bin, and get a fresh one. Next is CPU cooling, might be a thermal spike, that also can result in a cut off if really, really it's going way overboard..
A 750W PSU would be perfectly fine for that setup if that were a good one (Seasonic for instance). I have seen a lot of off-brand PSUs that did not deliver what they advertised (and even one or two that blew up, with flames..), also faulty capacitors is a thing.
Please don't pour beer into your computer.
Whoops, fixed
Yep cool. The specs aren’t bad for baseline use in theory, but there are loads of potential failure points, for sure.
It’s still not just him though. 3 examples a month seems an intriguing hit rate for a niche issue, given the low-ish playerbase. (Especially given a few claim to only have issues with SC). Makes me suspect SC is some kind of catalyst
. But guess I’ll just have a look in a few months and see if they’re still getting reports.Running Prime95 is a much better way to kill PCs that have any weak component... But CryEngine is not bad as it seems.Makes me suspect SC is some kind of catalyst
Unrelated: typical in SC (happened to me more than once..) https://gfycat.com/darlingflakyflea . Note the parking violation, crime stat and fine issued at the end..
What do you expect me to cool this thing with? Water?
Honestly, it's things like this that make me wonder how SC doesn't set entire rooms on fire if you ask it to do something on the more "technically challenging" end.
So. Much. Rendering.
Yeah, waste of good beer.
I have a suspicion that if he had throttled off it would have ended badly.What do you expect me to cool this thing with? Water?
Honestly, it's things like this that make me wonder how SC doesn't set entire rooms on fire if you ask it to do something on the more "technically challenging" end.
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ijoyw8h8LqM
So. Much. Rendering.
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