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The number of cases of contamination with coronavirus in Germany increased by 8% in 24 hours to reach 52,547, including 389 fatal cases, show statistics published by the Robert Koch Institute for Infectious Diseases, federal health authority.
64 new deaths have been recorded in the last 24 hours, an increase of 19%.
It seems that the virtuous Germany will also have its share of the burden in the coming weeks.
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We already are . Lifes do end, no matter what we do . This is not stopping us to do whatever we can to keep the toll as small as possible .
Meh to PES...I play FIFA 20 at the moment...kinda like an RPG rather than a sports game since I only control my player avatar and not the entire team. My made up player stats when creating my 17 year old likeness in game are a bit of...Messi? Hold my beer
Playing FIFA as an RPG suits me a lot better...since as a lifelong rugby player I have not the vaguest idea of what football...soccer if you will...is all about.
This vid from FIFA 18...FIFA 20 is a lot better. Scotland V Denmark...apologies for all the Danish fans out there
Meh to PES...I play FIFA 20 at the moment...kinda like an RPG rather than a sports game since I only control my player avatar and not the entire team. My made up player stats when creating my 17 year old likeness in game are a bit of...Messi? Hold my beer
Playing FIFA as an RPG suits me a lot better...since as a lifelong rugby player I have not the vaguest idea of what football...soccer if you will...is all about.
This vid from FIFA 18...FIFA 20 is a lot better.
Fifa 17 was my first soccer game, and I played '18 as well...but returned it to the Store after short time . Gave PES a try then 'cos if the ongoing praise for its Gameplay . Both games are some distance from being rellay, really good when it comes to gameplay....just PES a bit I less I think .
Nice Hattrick...funny how the Goalie actually flaps his hands backwards when going for the save at Goal #1 and #3 .
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My gaming rig came in yesterday. The guy in the shop delivered it with a new vid card, no charge, and also sent me a hardcover graphic novel.
He's minding his mum at home. I set them up with an O2 concentrator and a monitor before SHTF. She's not infected as far as we know, just high risk.
He dropped it at my old assistant's place, and she brought it over. She's running a farm, 52 acres in the country. Told us not to worry about food. She knows her family is covered by me and the centre.
I did up documents for her husband so he can travel through roadblocks as a med contractor ( he painted some of the house, so technically true). That sets him up to keep working/delivering without police troubles. He's got a camp at the farm, so we have a potential bug out location now, but - last resort.
Thanks.
If the random asymptomatic sample is 8% of the population, ONLY a complete lockdown will have an impact, IMHO.
Your fever gone, though?
He's minding his mum at home. I set them up with an O2 concentrator and a monitor before SHTF. She's not infected as far as we know, just high risk.
He dropped it at my old assistant's place, and she brought it over. She's running a farm, 52 acres in the country. Told us not to worry about food. She knows her family is covered by me and the centre.
I did up documents for her husband so he can travel through roadblocks as a med contractor ( he painted some of the house, so technically true). That sets him up to keep working/delivering without police troubles. He's got a camp at the farm, so we have a potential bug out location now, but - last resort.
Odd news from Belgium. One hospital has started testing non-suspected patients. 8% has tested positive, including measurable damage to the lungs without the patient noticing it (yet). Long term impact unknown.
I myself will enter week 4(!), with very little improvement with regards to breathing or lung pain compared with last week. Starting to look forward to recovery.
Thanks.
If the random asymptomatic sample is 8% of the population, ONLY a complete lockdown will have an impact, IMHO.
Your fever gone, though?
I'm curious, after looking into the Wuhan virology lab....how many people still think this is a natural disease, because I am 100% convinced now it's man made and got out by accident (probably), either via a worker at the lab or an infected bat got out.
The people who studief virology and analysed the virus in the US, Australia and GB are sure it is none of that. It is just a dumb conspiracy theory.
Also, infected bats don't 'get out' such a lab. You are confused about how such a lab looks like. There are no bats flying through negative pressure airlocks with Chinese people running after it with a net. You are thinking of cartoons.
India, as someone who work there often, I know how it is there, if the virus get a stronghold it’s over for sure.
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Exactly what we need!
Robots. With frikkin lazers in their heads!
For real.
I said it would happen, predicted the timeline, but that was theoretical.
There was no understanding of it the way we are learning now.
Yes it is 2020, and Blade Runner dystopia is well predicted in fiction, but now I am literally making plastic gas masks in the kitchen, and watching a horrendous countdown tick tick tick along as thousands of strangers die, but every one is a tragedy. It could be my family next.
So far, the rich industrialized world has faced it. Wait till India and Africa get in the firing line, and the collapse you mention might just materialize.
I prepared for lack of food, lack of power things like that, but not nuclear winters or deadly virus. We can adapt to the virus unless it becomes like Ebola kind of dangerous, however we should not get paranoid as this could harm more that the issue we want to fight.
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... based on what, exactly?
What are the criteria for the 8% testing positive? Are these people suffering from mild symptoms that wouldn't normally merit a Covid test?Odd news from Belgium. One hospital has started testing non-suspected patients. 8% has tested positive, including measurable damage to the lungs without the patient noticing it (yet). Long term impact unknown.
I myself will enter week 4(!), with very little improvement with regards to breathing or lung pain compared with last week. Starting to look forward to recovery.
As far as your condition goes, have you personally been tested for Covid 19? I got a weird sickness in the beginning of February that knocked me down harder than I've been knocked down in my adult life (with the exception of twice that I've been sickened during my career in the Iditarod that I can't compare due to the extreme conditions I was under at the time). This sickness that i suffered from earlier this year was savage, ranging from full body ache where I felt like I had been beaten on my legs and hips by an aluminum baseball bat, 103 temp & alternating chills, blinding headache, nausea for four days where I couldn't eat and barely drank, and the usual gamut of general cold symptoms, but severe. Don't remember having a sore throat but I felt like someone parked a truck on my chest and left it there, and now even late March and maybe 8 weeks from the initial sickness I'm still weakened and suffer from a severe cough and chest congestion. I could only afford to stay away from work for about two weeks and when I went back it was torture and still is pretty sub-optimal. Probably the flu, but no way of knowing for sure. All I know is that the best way to describe my condition was as if my body simply went haywire. Not sure i remember having that broad assortment of symptoms before. I'd say that I was still dealing with it and only at 70% strength.
Do you want the red pill....or the blue pill?
My main news sources include CNN, Reuters, BBC, Guardian, Fox and a metric ton of various podcasts from assorted world view points. And Ozzyman. Let's see what the man from down under has for us today?
Source: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aXUyGvmXFbw
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Odd news from Belgium. One hospital has started testing non-suspected patients. 8% has tested positive, including measurable damage to the lungs without the patient noticing it (yet). Long term impact unknown.
I myself will enter week 4(!), with very little improvement with regards to breathing or lung pain compared with last week. Starting to look forward to recovery.
The damage is most likely from 'Cytokine storms'- the immune system gets out of control and attacks healthy tissues along with infected ones. If this happens it can strip away the epithelial tissues in the lungs.
That isn't particularly accurate. More to the point would be noticing that some cities and states very much did take strong measures, and others did not. Guess how that played out?
This chart of the 1918 Spanish flu shows why social distancing works
St. Louis' response to the Spanish flu is informing the battle against the novel coronavirus.
qz.com
And in a surprising turn of events, it appeared that people who were dying or incapacitated did not show up for work, nor were they very active consumers in the economy. That is part of what makes all of this so sad; this isn't the first time we had this debate as a civilization. While those who made the mistake the first time can be to some extent excused for their failure, those who insist on making the same mistake again cannot likewise be forgiven.
That's true.
All actual evidence suggests this pathogen evolved naturally, and even in the absence of any such studies, assuming it's man made because early cases happened to be near a virology lab would be very circumstantial and probably coincidental. Even the suggestion that it was a natural pathogen that escaped this lab is highly dubious and has no evidence backing it.
Not surprising given the state of epidemiology, the US Public Health Service (the CDC wouldn't exist for almost three more decades), and relatively weaker federal authority at the time...nor does it excuse our own lagged response in 2020.
He's counting only the virus deaths, not the displacement deaths as health services get flattened. Presumably Fauci would be accessing the best available data, and the best models.
Using this endpoint, let's back-calculate for duration?
100,000 cases double every 2 days. Count the commas.
1,2,4,8,16,32,64,128
2 weeks to 12,800,000 cases, but we need 100 million at least
128, 256,512,1024
So about 3 weeks to over 100 million. At 1% fatality, we hit Fauci's estimate.
(Assuming the iceberg effect of 10 real cases per 1 detected)
Back of an envelope here. OK, we are seeing a rate from 1 to 2 weeks ago, when there were no lockdowns like now. The infection rate today should be slower.
To make the guess better, let's say it is decreased by half. So, 4 days to double, a bit better than Italy and South Korea.
That roughly gives us a duration in the USA of 6 to 8 weeks, to get to his minimum numbers. To get to the maximum, only one more doubling period, so say 7 to 9 weeks, tops.
(This ignores the stupid Easter Plan of Doom, which nobody is talking seriously about anymore. Efforts to lighten restrictions would obviate this calculation. This guesstimate is predicated on Fauci's unpredictable model accuracy, so it is even more unreliable)
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