VR support 'not at launch' for Odyssey

[Dooguk]

Sometimes stuff gets cut only months / weeks before release.

Yes but they would have had resources allocated to VR in the budget. Once they saw it wasn't going to work, those resources would be allocated elsewhere. Or the VR budget ran out.

 

[Stamford Rider]

I really cannot see why they've made this decision, yes proper VR support for FPS would be a lot of work (but not beyond wit of [wo]man), but they wouldn't even need full support to be better than this proposed -up. Standard VR support, as is, for the flying element and for the walking about element just generate a stereo pair of frames for the headset, with standard FPS mouse+kb or controller moving about. Wouldn't even need to support head tracking (although that would be better). Another bafflingly dim decision from FD (and I don't run a VR rig, top poor/cheap).

 

[thistle]

Unfortunately, the 'New Erea' has turned into a shoot 'em up in pancake mode (like there weren't thousands of these already).

I see these threads have now outlived their useful life lol.

 

[babelfisch]

Yes but they would have had resources allocated to VR in the budget. Once they saw it wasn't going to work, those resources would be allocated elsewhere. Or the VR budget ran out.

Or not.

 

[Azulkb]

i think many of us (VR fan) can accept a not perfect VR, but no VR, hard to believe.

 

[Cyclinguy]

I see these threads have now outlived their useful life lol.

Not while there is a chance that Frontier will listen to our whining, and at least consider partial VR support in Odyssey. We know that they can do VR for everything but legs, so why not leave it in for everything but legs?

 

[Dooguk]

Or not.

OK I get it, but I think I'll stick with what I've said and wait for FD to prove me wrong.

 

[Stamford Rider]

i think m

Either your post involved a LOT of swearing, or you hit "post" prematurely

 

[babelfisch]

OK I get it, but I think I'll stick with what I've said and wait for FD to prove me wrong.

That's probably the best attitude and what Zac basically recommended as well.

 

[ZeeWolf]

i think many of us (VR fan) can accept a not perfect VR, but no VR, hard to believe.

If it's imperfect VR you're willing to accept no doubt there will be Vorpx support as with Arma and Star Citizen

but...why...would..you?

 

[Azulkb]

He bakes bread like a MF'in boss, beotches.

I'm bad in english, I don't understand what you said , but if you click on my history, you'll see that I never complained, on the contrary, and that's why you don't see me posting often. but if you look at the post on sagitarrus, nothing exceptional, but I was the 999th to visit it.

And I've more than defended this game in other forums, i defended horizon, i defended the lack of gameplay, certainly because in VR i feel i am in an immersive univers, but yes now I'm absolutely despised.

 

[Dooguk]

I would hate to think that the VR budget has gone to an F1 Management game.

 

[ZeeWolf]

I would hate to think that the VR budget has gone to an F1 Management game.

Nah, that'd be a daft game to push VR for ;-)

 

[CMDR M Kozak]

I would hate to think that the VR budget has gone to an F1 Management game.

well they dont even have budget to run CG’s anymore, so its a fair assumption.

 

[Dooguk]

Nah, that'd be a daft game to push VR for ;-)

I knew I should have rephrased that.

 

[VR Golgot]

You are describing doing a good job versus doing a serviceable job.

To a degree. A lot of these types of elements would be required in a serviceable job that met current market expectations though.

There is one argument that blows yours out of the water - VR is often added to games that were never designed for it and it works just fine.

It really doesn't. I agree with you that lots of games have been ported to great success. But ED has some specific challenges:

• It doesn't even have the FPS aspect in yet. They have to build that too.
  • There are a ton of technical and performance issues here, given the scale, the use of giant player-controlled vehicles, and the proc gen environments. These issues have to be solved first before VR is even possible. Then they have to do a load more to make VR perform acceptably.

• It's a multiplayer title featuring 'crossplay' with non-VR players & PvP.
  • Design decisions for one mode can constrain another: You can't use prolonged acceleration with jetpacks due to nausea, but your flat-play designers want it for a specific combat mechanic, etc etc etc.
  • Does either mode gain an excessive advantage: Can VR players clip their head through walls or blindfire around corners too easily? Can flatscreen players reload faster and lay down fire far more accurately? Etc etc.

Only one game with a comparable feature-set & challenges has added VR. And that's NMS. And they had the FPS aspect in place already. (And PvP isn't really a thing they need to worry about, given the smaller instances and the lack of structured incentives to take part in it).

But let's go through your list-
Virtual Cockpit Interfaces- Doesn't need to be added to Elite. We already have VR in vehicles.
Spaceship Cockpit- No change here. (Also first person was always available in NMS, so they might have tweaked it but it wasn't entirely from scratch either).
Base Building Interface- Haha. Yeah. About that.
UI- Not necessary to change and easily modified. You're wearing a helmet for Heaven's Sake.
Hand Held Weapons- So? If it's too difficult (and that would be sad) then just use mouse controls.
Nausea- Well worn path at this point. Include basic feature options like binocular vision or just don't and let the community deal with it. It's not that big of a deal. Experienced VR users will turn that stuff off anyway.
Performance- This is the real issue. FDev are probably not great at optimization and they would have to do some real work and hire some experts. They should do this anyway.

The list is just a very brief set of examples of the type of work you're glossing over. I could extend the list out if you like, but seeing as you don't even recognise the broader import there (addressing technical debt, recreating bespoke versions of current industry solutions etc), or the challenges involved (UI easily modified, lol ), what's the point?

It's all easy in your head. The flick of a switch. The wave of a wand...

 

[ZeeWolf]

I knew I should have rephrased that.

Unless it was a Bernie Ecclestone VR simulator...where you spend your time in seedy places getting involved in bribary, tax avoidance or what have you

 

[Dooguk]

Unless it was a Bernie Ecclestone VR simulator...where you spend your time in seedy places getting involved in bribary, tax avoidance or what have you

Imagine seeing Bernie Eccleston in VR! "HOW FAR AWAY IS HE!"

 

[Dooguk]

No worries, dude. I was just making a joke (not pointed at you).

Backer = someone who backs something
Baker = someone who makes bread

Imagine the confusion Kickstarting a bakers.

 

[VR Golgot]

Zac said they are still unsure where VR compatibility will be cut off, so it's still a distinct possibility that VR will be available for other parts of Odyssey. Due to the uncertainty it's better to assume it won't be possible though.

Have you got a link for that b? Haven’t seen those quotes!