Anybody at Frontier?

Surely there's some middle ground between "non-stop communications" and what we've seen the last couple of years. ;)

The silent treatment does work in the right circumstances. A lot of game studios use it when they are working on a new game. They'll be very quiet until they have something to show for the big reveal.

It doesn't work as well though when the game is already released and a lot of the stuff you said players "will be able to" do in the game is still nowhere to be found six years later. Naturally people want to be kept updated, especially since those "promises" made a certain amount of players buy into stuff like a LEP.

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I was HOPING they were, but who knows?

And it's really more a matter of common courtesy for me if I'm perfectly honest. If they just said "yep we're aware and we're working on this as we speak" I'd have been happy with that. I'm not unreasonable and I'm not demanding a fix yesterday, if you go through my posts you will find that I only ever took issue with the radio silence, not with the lack of a fix.
This & This - very much these two points. Radio silence on Odessy while it was in early development, is one thing and understandable, but not even acknowledging concerns raised in the forum with even the simplest of platitudes is rude. I don't think anyone is expecting a 2000word daily report, I think what is being asked for or complained about the lack of is even simple communication and the odd response. Things like "we're aware of it, we're working on it, we don't have an ETA but we'll get back to you" or "OK we hear what we are saying, we'll discuss it internally later on and get back to you" and then following up on that with simple one-liners like "a'ight - such and such is now going to be fixed in a hot patch on Thursday" or "we discussed [glump] and it's (going to be redressed in a future update / remain as is)".

Yawn.


Source: https://twitter.com/Frontier_Help/status/1275510924825300994?s=20

Edit: And will that do anything to stop you complaining every 10 seconds ... I'm guessing no. Which is one reason why there's no point in them posting here 🤷‍♀️
The twitter user was "at" Frontier_Help - Can you genuinely not see the difference between Tech. Support and Community Managers? Citing the activity of tech support in defence of the lack of community management communications is a straw man argument, its like roasting the engine design engineers at a car manufacturer because you don't like the colour options available on a particular model of their car.

I like to imagine the laughter in fdev towers when new employees ask about posting on the forums. No son, we don't even subject the interns to that!
Maybe they put the new ones into the forums like forum users try to get noobs to go to Hutton Orbital for the free 'conda?

So over the last week, did you think they WEREN'T working on fixes for the cosmetic issue and others?
Again, that would be the work of different departments, the design/development team as opposed to the CM team.

I think the point is they do when they have something to announce, and beyond that they have multiple streams per week usually.

The new lead CM is introducing themselves on a stream this Thursday afaik ..

I'm maybe being naive / overly optimistic, but given Albert said they have played Elite from the day it launched on XB1 I'm hoping that he will understand the "need" for more communication and act on it. Although the cynical part of me says they'll probably be bound by the same gagging order as the other CM's...
 
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It’s the simple things!
I’ve asked in the forums and on twitter if there is a dedicated VR team / person working on ED, never had a response.
Surely it’s not commercially confidential.
 
Following on from my OP, when you meet the CM or developers at events like Lavecon they are brilliant. They will sit and chat for ages, their panel presentations are fantastic. But between events and dealing with community concerns their customer service has gone downhill over the years.
The support team are brilliant at solving problems quickly.
Hopefully the CM team can be un-gagged and once again will start engaging on a regular basis.
 
Are we playing the same game ? XD appart for exploit being rampant, nothing , really.

Also think about this if a dev / CM made CLEAR statement about something in the game , or question asked , do you think this question may be asked 1000 more time on forums ?

Like : are you going to fix SSD exploit ? Just something like" We'v seen it , working on it right now ,ect" it's like 5 min of their time. and it's supposed to be their work .I sometime think i'd be better manager than them. And i'm terrible at that.
Maybe i'm missing theses post tho.
But they are way way way to rare giving how well forums are workings.

I thought nugs were acknowledged in the bug tracker, seem slike and addtional 5 minutes per bug to acknowledge in the forum as well.

Simon
 
These were the duties/requirements listed before Arthur was appointed:

Responsibilities
  • Generate and host original content for our channels (Twitch/YouTube/events) to raise product visibility and awareness
  • Planning and scheduling initiatives to drive engagement within the relevant communities
  • Positively engage across all channels as a representative of Frontier
  • Work closely with internal teams (PR, Marketing, Product Management, Customer Support, and Developers) to better support our gaming communities and communication strategies
  • Organise and participate in events and groups to build communities and grow awareness
  • Build relationships with players and industry professionals.

About You

Essential

  • Ability to communicate confidently and effectively both verbally and in writing
  • Collaborative approach
  • Pro-active and creative approach to projects and content
  • Confident working in a fast-paced environment and able to react positively to change
  • Ability to accurately report and monitor feedback
  • Fluency in spoken and written English
  • Willing and able to travel to industry events and conventions
  • A passion for video games.
  • Experience in a similar CM role with emphasis on live streaming and written content creation
  • Good understanding of social media channels.
Beneficial
  • Experience in the gaming industry
  • Experience working on massively multiplayer online games
  • Knowledge of streaming software (OBS) and hardware.
  • Second European language
  • Knowledge of Frontier games and in particular Elite Dangerous
 
In case anyone thinks they can do a better job at it.


I seen that post and thought "Challenge Accepted" - Figuring that I spend enough times on this forums its about time I could actually make a difference...

Then I followed the link, second google result was a linked in page, and I was actually going to apply, and...

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In passing, I notice that Bo is moving on

Sorry that Bo is leaving, but she has likely made a good decision. Managers have to move up or elsewhere to progress their careers, and Will got the job at FD. She will do well, wherever she goes.
 
Having started this thread I think it is only right to acknowledge this post.


Thank you @Dominic Corner
 

Arthur Tolmie

Lead Community Manager
Frontier
Hello (again) - I wanted to just drop in on this thread quickly and state that I am indeed listening and learning. I will be more active on the forums, and other places in the coming weeks as and when I can, work permitting. Please understand that I am just getting my head around the systems and processes here at Frontier - this is only my 5th week.

What I can tell you with certainty, is the team are passionate about ALL aspects of the community and alongside me are working on a plan to address as many of your frustrations and concerns as we can.

I am a fan of honest communication and it is something I will be bringing to the table, an answer to a question (good or bad) is better than no answer at all. Meaningful change takes some time, but it is something that I have set as a goal for myself and my team.

I hope you all will support us in doing that.

-Arf
 
Hello (again) - I wanted to just drop in on this thread quickly and state that I am indeed listening and learning. I will be more active on the forums, and other places in the coming weeks as and when I can, work permitting. Please understand that I am just getting my head around the systems and processes here at Frontier - this is only my 5th week.

What I can tell you with certainty, is the team are passionate about ALL aspects of the community and alongside me are working on a plan to address as many of your frustrations and concerns as we can.

I am a fan of honest communication and it is something I will be bringing to the table, an answer to a question (good or bad) is better than no answer at all. Meaningful change takes some time, but it is something that I have set as a goal for myself and my team.

I hope you all will support us in doing that.

-Arf

Thank you - I wanted to make sure that your posting on your welcome thread did get to a wider audience
 
Hello (again) - I wanted to just drop in on this thread quickly and state that I am indeed listening and learning. I will be more active on the forums, and other places in the coming weeks as and when I can, work permitting. Please understand that I am just getting my head around the systems and processes here at Frontier - this is only my 5th week.

What I can tell you with certainty, is the team are passionate about ALL aspects of the community and alongside me are working on a plan to address as many of your frustrations and concerns as we can.

I am a fan of honest communication and it is something I will be bringing to the table, an answer to a question (good or bad) is better than no answer at all. Meaningful change takes some time, but it is something that I have set as a goal for myself and my team.

I hope you all will support us in doing that.

-Arf

That's great and don't take this the wrong way: We've heard this before, you won't be the last. It's not you, it's FDev/your managers.
 
Hello (again) - I wanted to just drop in on this thread quickly and state that I am indeed listening and learning. I will be more active on the forums, and other places in the coming weeks as and when I can, work permitting. Please understand that I am just getting my head around the systems and processes here at Frontier - this is only my 5th week.

What I can tell you with certainty, is the team are passionate about ALL aspects of the community and alongside me are working on a plan to address as many of your frustrations and concerns as we can.

I am a fan of honest communication and it is something I will be bringing to the table, an answer to a question (good or bad) is better than no answer at all. Meaningful change takes some time, but it is something that I have set as a goal for myself and my team.

I hope you all will support us in doing that.

-Arf
Arthur ... I can't explain it, but I've a good feeling about you being here. :D
 
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