Any compensation incoming for non-exploiters?

[Denneb]

Denneb did actually make a good point more recently, though, when he mentioned potential credit inflation. It wouldn't be outside the realm of possibility for Frontier to inflate the credit cost of future content to compensate. I don't know your gameplay style or what interests you, but that very much could affect you down the road.

The man (or woman) got it!

As for the others, who used inappropriate words against me, you obviously didnt understand the meaning of this post, which is about ethos and actual impact of exploitative behavior to the game. You also obviously missed the post where I said Im not really interested in any compensation, but rather on correcting of exploits and a relative career path equality. Im happy though, that my title was catchy enough to inspire a long and sometimes productive conversation

 

[STARFIRE REVMEUP]

So first... they set up a patch to fix it... and it does not fix the exploit....

What if instead... they had set a trap for the exploiters this whole time, to record all those that kept doing it after the patch.

Would be funny as hell to see all that money disappear with this next patch.

 

[Denneb]

So first... they set up a patch to fix it... and it does not fix the exploit....

What if instead... they had set a trap for the exploiters this whole time, to record all those that kept doing it after the patch this whole time.

Would be funny as hell to see all that money disappear with this next patch.

It would, but its highly unlikely
Or imagine, the egg still being there but being protected by ATR

 

[Rat Catcher]

rather on correcting of exploits and a relative career path equality...

There are regular 'rants' about parity of income over the career paths, usually because only mining can currently earn 'silly money' even without exploits:- e.g. I did my monthly mining trip a few days ago, just an hour in the local VO hotspot as 600k in my home station. I returned 55 minutes later with 190t of various tat in my Python that raised 105 million, certainly no exploit, just pop every core that I found.
I could probably match that doing passenger runs to the beacons in Colonia, provided each round-trip generated 4 more...

The same hour in a Haz RES I could be lucky and hit 3 million, doing a wing mission solo in a CZ up to 40+ million...

There is no 'simple' way parity could be achieved when even playing in a non-exploitive way 'silly' sums can be made.

No criticism of the idea, I'd be happier to get closer to buying the FC I actually do want by doing things I really do enjoy

 

[Wolf Starslayer]

Wow , this has gone on loads o' pages , answer; they get to be rich u get to be clean, hope that helps.

P.s They keep the carriers & all the lootz

 

[Sysmon]

Join me in the delusional dream of getting fleet carriers removed from the game again, and mining mechanics reworked to be more sensible like we were discussing during the beta for the new mining tools. Then eventually the carriers come back in, also with more sensible mechanics around usage, interaction with the BGS and upkeep.

S

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

The ONLY reason Frontier made it against the ToS is because the gankers threw a tantrum.

Citation needed.

 

[Phisto Sobanii]

There's no "IF" about it.
Why are you defending gankers?

If we play by the rules, what's the issue?

 

[Tikanderoga]

Let's see: There is a game mechanic - totally legit - which lets players amass lots of wealth.
Not the first one, not the last one.
17 Draconis
Skimmer massacre missions
Ceo-Sothis
MedB Passenger runs
All credit fountains which have been milked to death by players.
Against the rules? Nope. Because they stayed all within the boundaries of the game.

If the game is designed to reset a rock after moving away 25km, and a player finds a shortcut to do that by hopping in an SLF, instead of flying out there in an SLF every time - speeds up the process, same result though.

To all of us who have done the Guardian Blueprint grind:
Did you visit all the sites ONLY ONCE to get your blueprints?
Or did you fly to another site every time you collected one blueprint?
Or did you log off after doing one run, log back in and do the same loop again, because you knew where the obelisks were, where the sentinels were hiding and what to expect.

Technically, you could call this an exploit too. Because you are... resetting the game instance. Just sayin...

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

Well, this could actually work out for frontier.

Since they generally have a B grade 'whatever we could manage' support policy for elite, if they rewarded people for NOT exploiting every time there was an exploit, that would artificially encourage people not to and possibly reduce the player game damage that the exploits might cause... while not forcing frontier out of their 'this is what we can manage plod nothing less than servers being offline is urgent' development style.

A good idea. At minimum they should be decals that glow in the dark for awesomeness. If they offered a rare paint job for not doing it i can imagine the only people that would do it would be a small fraction of current.

 

[Tikanderoga]

A good idea. At minimum they should be decals that glow in the dark for awesomeness. If they offered a rare paint job for not doing it i can imagine the only people that would do it would be a small fraction of current.

a small glow in the dark decal vs 100b credits and never worry about money for the rest of the game ever again.

Tough choice there....

 

[[Diplomacy] Carnegie]

I don't need any compensation up here on the moral high ground

 

[CMDR Karrde Sun]

a small glow in the dark decal vs 100b credits and never worry about money for the rest of the game ever again.

Tough choice there....

Limited edition decals you can only get for the duration of one exploit. You can make 100 billion credits any day of the week via the by design gold rushes.

 

[Susanna]

Hello fellow commanders. The instantly replenishing LTD subsurface deposits mining frenzy is just the cherry on top of the general mining rewards fiasco (compared to other activities).
FDev trying hard to patch it, is a clear testament that its is NOT intended gameplay, and taking advantage of non-intended gameplay for personal benefit is the DEFINITION of exploiting.

So, as a loyal player with over 5500 hrs of non-exploitative gameplay and with hundreds of game extras purchased, I think I am entitled to ask a simple question to the developers:
Is there any compensation incoming to the people who chose to forfeit a tremendous in-game advantage and didn't exploit?
Or even, is there any penalty incoming to the ones who did exploit, and for example, earned themselves in a few days the luxury of buying and sustaining an FC for life?

I would really like to see FDev here not following the real life example that rewards exploiting and penalizes good ethos.
Thanks for your time.

Something odd is happening though... I SSD mined 788 T of LTDs in two runs. The first lot transferred ok to my FC ok. The second lot disappeared tho! And yesterday so has the first 394 T as well?

I've just used regular SSD mining and NO EXPLOIT at ALL! To earn these LTDs... So what's going on?

 

[Dragsham]

Heard there was a bug where when transferring tritium from say your cutter/type 9 etc to the Carrier resulted In some tritium getting lost.
I transferred 15k of tritium having bought from a cheap source & didn't notice this myself but that was weeks ago.
I'm by no means 100% on this but l do recall reading it here somewhere.

 

[galahad2069]

I'm not saying they will take your money, but actions do have consequences. Not all teachers will let a student keep the A+ on the test after they've caught them cheating.

It's hardly a cheat/exploit anymore since fdev patched it and then stated explicitly in the patch notes that the bug had been fixed.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

It's hardly a cheat/exploit anymore since fdev patched it and then stated explicitly in the patch notes that the bug had been fixed.

This is like claiming that bugs don’t exist in a game if there are no known bugs. It is quite obvious that there is a bug with the bugfix. Directly contrary to your assertion, the patch notes clearly stated that the SLF reset is an exploit. Another attempt at fixing this is expected to be announced today.

 

[galahad2069]

This is like claiming that bugs don’t exist in a game if there are no known bugs. It is quite obvious that there is a bug with the bugfix. Directly contrary to your assertion, the patch notes clearly stated that the SLF reset is an exploit. Another attempt at fixing this is expected to be announced today.

No, it wasn't like claiming bugs didn't exist.

It was like claiming that once some professional software developers have stated that a specific bug had been fixed by the patch they applied, then whatever behaviour the software shows afterwards is intentional.

 

[[VR] Orodruin]

No, it wasn't like claiming bugs didn't exist.

It was like claiming that once some professional software developers have stated that a specific bug had been fixed by the patch they applied, then whatever behaviour the software shows afterwards is intentional.

That's just naïve to be honest.

 

[galahad2069]

That's just naïve to be honest.

No, not really.

At least if you think fdev are professionals, not a bunch of amateurs who don't even know how their own game works and throwing in a lazy cooldown timer in the wrong position was the best they could come up with.