ANNOUNCEMENT Fleet Carriers Update - Patch 3

I don’t know if this is new, but it’s misleading, this is on the PS4 version....
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Mining profits were buffed in December 2018. Until then mining profits were laughable at best - simply ignored by everyone else.
I'd rather not see the game returned to that state...

Mining is so much more profitable than any other activity it's not even close. It's the main problem with Elite currently. Every live stream I see is someone mining because the player base forgot how to do anything else, and it's mainly because everyone wanted a Fleet Carrier. Well, everyone and their damn cat has a Fleet Carrier now. Some could afford 5 of them. Mining is busted.
 
So has this update effected all types of mining or are there other ones people could mine for and compensate for time and effort, because not everyone can spend 24/7 on their computer?
 
Mining is so much more profitable than any other activity it's not even close. It's the main problem with Elite currently. Every live stream I see is someone mining because the player base forgot how to do anything else, and it's mainly because everyone wanted a Fleet Carrier. Well, everyone and their damn cat has a Fleet Carrier now. Some could afford 5 of them. Mining is busted.

And good riddance.
 
How about making other activities worthwhile? I'm frankly sick of everyone thinking ED is a mining sim.

If you guys EVER decide to give us balanced rewards maybe your game wouldn't revolve around one activity, and players constantly arguing whether the one activity deserves a nerf. Mining is the focus of your dev team because your reward system is broken. I don't know how many more ways I can say it nicely.

Wake up and smell the imbalance.

Agreed, but at this point, I suspect its working as intended.

Easy, fast credit earning for players >>> More ships brought by players >>> More paint jobs and ship kits sold >>> £££

The imbalance has been there since December 2018. Frontier have done nothing to fix that. I'm not including today's Hotspot Patch #23912 since by all accounts, Hotspots are now Coldspots and even for this game, that's sounds like a bug.
 
PFFFF Frontier is a load of crap and theire word is worth nothing !
Remember the promise they made ?
I think you guys all forgot about that right ?

They promised to start fixing bugs and stop with the fleet carrier that was last year !
This promise was made after a petotion that was signed by a whole bunch of cmdrs.
Now look where we are
  1. still a bunch of bugs in the game
  2. even worse more bugs are added since that promise
  3. the fleet carrier is a joke
  4. and now they messed up the game again
Sorry but what kind of people are they ?
I am starting to think they are from one of the systems i visited
A man A man A word A word
start doing what you guys promised and stop messing up the game !!
 
Yeah... I see your point, partly...

ED is not RL.
With all the billions and FC, players still have to sweat mining tritium and transfer it from cargo to depot by themselves...
RL is so much fun than ED, at least in RL you can actually pay someone to do your chores ;)

You mine tritium? Why when you could mine LTD at 30-40x the value? I go mine a single quick load of 150-200 LTDs and sell them for 300m or so. Then I buy 7500 tons of tritium and haul it back and forth to my carrier the 7-8 trips it takes.

Tritium mining is so silly at the moment it alone is enough to keep my FC tethered to human space and places that sell tritium. I might fly it to colonia if you can buy trit there, I haven't checked (and actually i think you can store enough in the cargo hold for a round trip flight actually.
 
You mine tritium? Why when you could mine LTD at 30-40x the value? I go mine a single quick load of 150-200 LTDs and sell them for 300m or so. Then I buy 7500 tons of tritium and haul it back and forth to my carrier the 7-8 trips it takes.

Tritium mining is so silly at the moment it alone is enough to keep my FC tethered to human space and places that sell tritium. I might fly it to colonia if you can buy trit there, I haven't checked (and actually i think you can store enough in the cargo hold for a round trip flight actually.
It is 60000 around full range, so you can fly 30000 around sell base and back.
However ... now sell supplies are finite. So if station sell 700 trit, u will pick all in 1 run :D ...as I read, still far away to check.
 
It may not be of consolation to many, but Hyades Sector DB-X D1-112 A3 seems to still be viable for Painite mining, although somewhat reduced. We did observe 0 SSDs in this instance though as well as the reported glitch of the abrasion blaster on some of the core asteroids. My gut instinct here is that there is an error in the degree of the reduction in the LTD% seems as D1-112 seems about in line with the wording of the patch notes.

Needless to say, if you have a mining itch you need to scratch, this would be my pick for the time being.
 
It may not be of consolation to many, but Hyades Sector DB-X D1-112 A3 seems to still be viable for Painite mining, although somewhat reduced. We did observe 0 SSDs in this instance though as well as the reported glitch of the abrasion blaster on some of the core asteroids. My gut instinct here is that there is an error in the degree of the reduction in the LTD% seems as D1-112 seems about in line with the wording of the patch notes.

Needless to say, if you have a mining itch you need to scratch, this would be my pick for the time being.

We've scratched through the skin and onto the bone at this point. Frontier need to give players reasons to scratch other professions.....meh, its like screaming while in a hurricane at this point, as far as FDev are concerned its all about the mining.
 
There were more added instead of the old ones fixed, as per the OP.
I see. Mostly mucking with mining this patch. Fixing hair options of course. Minor fleet carrier bugs.
Mining simulator 2020 gets mining tweaks. Yawn.
Don't worry about the pachyderm performance and stability regression in the room... That can be deferred for "the future" (vague much?)... Just so long as the ARX store is working properly. :rolleyes:

I mean sure, LTD mining needed a whack with the nerf-bat, but it didn't need whacking right now.
Meanwhile, letting people park 25 FCs in one system is freezing clients and kicking players out of the game. In what universe do regressions introduced last month get a lower priority than balance changes that have festered for 2 year already?
 
My FC is parked up for 8 years until Frontier sort themselves out! Because next month, FS 2020 is released, so I dont think I'll be doing much Spaceship flying, more likely, I will be flying an A320 into Dubai International Airport. I may jump in my FC if I hear some good news from Frontier (which I doubt) so keep having Fun commanders, this Aircraft Pilot is going to..
 
We've scratched through the skin and onto the bone at this point. Frontier need to give players reasons to scratch other professions.....meh, its like screaming while in a hurricane at this point, as far as FDev are concerned its all about the mining.
I am all for more methods of credit gains too, particularly around combat. Whilst I agree that mining has indeed been very potent, I would hate to see it go away entirely as an option. Certainly not for mechanics bugs like abrasion blasting.

I am all for the idea of dusting off the PVE Piracy ship again.
 
Btw, we need achievement "Never docked another carrier" :D
...not sure what that DSSS guys expected, dead baby born.

DSSS or DSSA?
The DSSA Initiative is a movement to put at least one permenant carrier in Every region of the Galaxy, with some ferrying explorers back and forth. Like the Fuel Rats, it's other players putting in time and effort to make the game more enjoyable for others.

DSSS I am unfamiliar with.
 
DSSS or DSSA?
The DSSA Initiative is a movement to put at least one permenant carrier in Every region of the Galaxy, with some ferrying explorers back and forth. Like the Fuel Rats, it's other players putting in time and effort to make the game more enjoyable for others.

DSSS I am unfamiliar with.
Yeh, "A" ... I mean .. met couple carriers in void, didn't even bother to came close. Proper Anaconda is carrier itself, if she can move - she will repair to full in no time.
 
The way the game was meant to be played wasn't enjoyable for alot of people judging by the steam numbers. This actually had people playing the game.

Just think about this.... "Broken" LTD mining brought more people to the game than planetary landings.

Credits need a boost across the board, nerfing the two ways people enjoyed and with tritium trading, actually had real gameplay implications is a terrible move.

What is this tritium trading thing i keep hearing mentioned? How was it a money maker beford and what happened in the patch that screwed it up?
 
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