The Quest To Find Raxxla

simulacrae

simulacrae
Jorki Rasalas said:
UA spectrogram map points (supposedly) to first barnacles on Merope5c, though they were found manually before that was found & decoded
UP spectrogram map shows how to find Thargoid Surface Sites (Motherships) using UP+UA+UL.

It’s all explained on the Canonn pages.

But since neither thargoids nor humanity (apart from DB and MB) know where Raxxla is located, then it’s not relevant here 🙂
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I think the thargoids know ;)
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
In the old lore it was said that Thargoids once knew where Raxxla was but lost it & are looking for it, though were also more interested in Soontill which had been their planet.. That might have been retconned though, since TDW are said to have lost Raxxla, and CEIP were interested in Soontil (from one of the books). So, if it’s lore-based, I no longer have any idea of what is supposed to be current!
 

Vetinari

V
Well that was an interesting 50 page catch up...

Jorki Rasalas said:
In the old lore it was said that Thargoids once knew where Raxxla was but lost it & are looking for it, though were also more interested in Soontill which had been their planet.. That might have been retconned though, since TDW are said to have lost Raxxla, and CEIP were interested in Soontil (from one of the books). So, if it’s lore-based, I no longer have any idea of what is supposed to be current!
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Are you sure that was lore and not fan fiction? Not that it really matters as I think we have to take any new lore and disregard the old until its confirmed, a new player with zero knowledge of the old lore should have the same chance surely....the same chance of never finding it either that is...so anything 'findable' must exist in the current ED Universe (which may include the game, forums, vids, twitter, FB but hopefully not unrecorded conversations of any variety that isn't then confirmable to everyone)
 

Lori Jameson

Lori Jameson
I'm beginning to come to the realization that our understanding (expectations?) of what Raxxla is may be inherently flawed.

"A place that isn't a place, a door but also the key', references to Delphi (and by proxy it's famed oracles), ideas of portals to other worlds and the knowledge contained within... So, a massive repository of knowledge? A digital library? Perhaps containing knowledge that would warp the perspective of anyone who reads it, changing everything we've ever thought of as our understanding of the universe shifts into an unintelligible amalgam of what was and what truely is?

That would explain quite a bit. Even its name, Raxxla. It has no meaning, yet it transcends languages as being known as itself. Utterly unknowable. Knowledge like that would be an exceedingly dangerous cognito-hazard and very valuable. Definitely worth protecting. Preventing the knowledge from escaping would be paramount to those in charge as stuff like that would completely reshape humanity as we know it. Total chaos.

So, my newish theory?

The codex points us to Tau Ceti. Tau Ceti points us to the dawn of hyperspace. The codex defines a time in which the Raxxla myth is widely circulated. Tau Ceti points to a start date of human exploration's golden age. This brings us back to Earth and the clues place an emphasis on our early history post hyperspace.

The discovery of the Mars relic fits the timeline especially well. That's where the trail ends. Does the relic contain Raxxla or just point towards its existence? Who knows.

The Mars relic containing information on Raxxla (or Raxxla itself) would explain the near total secrecy surrounding the childs palm sized object.
 
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simulacrae

simulacrae
Jorki Rasalas said:
In the old lore it was said that Thargoids once knew where Raxxla was but lost it & are looking for it, though were also more interested in Soontill which had been their planet.. That might have been retconned though, since TDW are said to have lost Raxxla, and CEIP were interested in Soontil (from one of the books). So, if it’s lore-based, I no longer have any idea of what is supposed to be current!
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Ya im not basing the idea that I think the Thargoids know about Raxxla on anything in lore really - more from the fact that they have been around for thousands, err millions? of years...
Well there is this one quote from Galnet that I like “Alternatively, they may be using hyperspace as a conduit from a dimensional plane entirely separate from real space. The Thargoids may not just be extragalactic in origin, but extra-universal.” Which hints at a possible Raxxla connection as that is one potential idea for what Raxxla is ... A gateway to another place.
And ya I think that the Thargoid Device is indicative of that in it shows a Galaxy like projection that does not match with our own.

A side note - Im working on a theory that the Guardian beacons (which are quite similar to the Thargoid devices) are not part of a "communication network" as such - they are too clustered to be an effective network across guardian space. I am assuming they are clustered for a reason - they are warning about a location possibly? This could be the area where the Guardian/Thargoid war took place. And a specific reason why t he Thargoids wanted it?

Currently assuming that the Thargoids are working on a vast project that has spanned millions of years possibly related to Raxxla and the Guardians thwarted them in the past and we might be doing the same again... but ya total spitballing.
 

Jorki Rasalas

Jorki Rasalas
Vetinari said:
Well that was an interesting 50 page catch up...



Are you sure that was lore and not fan fiction? Not that it really matters as I think we have to take any new lore and disregard the old until its confirmed, a new player with zero knowledge of the old lore should have the same chance surely....the same chance of never finding it either that is...so anything 'findable' must exist in the current ED Universe (which may include the game, forums, vids, twitter, FB but hopefully not unrecorded conversations of any variety that isn't then confirmable to everyone)
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No, I’m not sure of anything about lore any more, I’m totally confused! Yes, I agree, we should read the Codex and Tourist beacons (& maybe the Galnet archives 😉) and take that as the current lore. But my memory is failing a bit in old age so I tend to remember older stuff better! 👨‍🦳
 
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Spike78

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I'm pretty sure RAXXLA, Thargoids and the Guardians are all together connected somehow. Even if RAXXLA is a portal to another dimension/galaxy/whatever then who built it? The answer is only the ones that could have built it are either Humans, Guardians or the Thargoids since there is currently nobody else in the game that could have done it. Only exception if it is a natural phenomenon but that would be somehow unlikely since they try to be as realistic as possible from a scientific point of view. Also such a construction would have to be fed with huge amounts of energy. Target systems for such an place should be the ones that can deliver that kind of power. Maybe black holes or even dyson spheres altough there is probably no method in the game to find them.
 

Thatchinho

Thatchinho
Might have been ninja'd on a lot of this by now, but...
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It maybe space madness kicking in or the wine or the tinfoil hat may have slipped a little... but I was thinking what are the big mysteries/stories in Elite... Raxxla (of course), Guardians and the Thargs... then I was thinking what do they have in common in the new lore (I’m old skool 8 bit Elite). So humans fought the Thargoids, Guardians fought the Thargoids. We don’t know why the Thargoids got upset with humans first time around and we have no idea why Guardians fought the Thargoids (correct me if I am wrong - always keen to learn more!).
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On the Thargoid/Human point the rumour is that a Thargoid delegation was attacked by Human colonists.

On the Thargoid/Guardian point, the story told by Ram Tah, (and thus at most just the Guardians' version of events) is that the Guardians occupied an area which the Thargoids had already seeded with Barnacles, and that the Thargoids attacked.

(And on the latter, can anyone seriously see the Guardians not having been helping themselves to Meta-Alloys?)

Emperor said:
We do know Raxxla was found (well probably!) and we know possibly the Dark Wheel found something out too.
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I don't think we actually do know either of these things.

Emperor said:
There’s Soontil Artifacts which are also Alien but not from Guardian/Thargoid/Human sources....
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They're from a Thargoid source. The quote is:

"The research team’s results clearly state that no known human technology could have created the relics, yet they do not quite align with known Thargoid materials."

Emphasis is mine. Point being that it doesn't say they're nothing like Thargoid materials. It's just that they're not exactly like known Thargoid materials.

Emperor said:
So do the Thargoids know about Raxxla?
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I heard at one point that the Thargoids were aware of the legend of Raxxla, but were more interested in Soontill. That however may well have been a distortion of a statement to the effect that Soontill to the Thargoids held a similar legendary/mythical status as Raxxla does to us.

Emperor said:
Did the Guardians also discover it?
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Nothing to indicate so. Some hints that it might be a Guardian creation though. (When I say hints, I don't mean FD statements, I mean things that can be interpreted as indicators.)

Emperor said:
and are the Thargs protecting it?
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Nothing to indicate so.

Emperor said:
If so is that a map to Raxxla?
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No, it's a diagramatic representation of how to use the Thargoid Devices.

Emperor said:
Just a thought...
Also noticed I may have missed a ringed planet on my simplistic diagram if this one is accurate...

if the bottom is Sag-A (Tharg machines show a spiralling galaxy of some sort when you use the UA, UP and US as in the diagram?) then what is the destination? Home?

The 8 leaved icons = Thargoids? And the - and | in the middle are the coordinations to get there?

There will be no clues, but you have to make it a little bit obvious....

Has anyone taken a UA to Merope and see if it points to a different direction as the diagram would suggest? Does a US point somewhere? And if the UP needs to go to Col 70 Sector FY-N C21-3 we’re a bit screwed!)

And with that brain dump and the end of the glass of wine it’s time for sleep 😁
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See previous point. It's essentially how to find other Thargoid Structures from the one you're at.
 
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Emperor

Emperor
simulacrae said:
I think Ram Tah is a fan of Plato
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I think Ram Tah is a Raxxlan.... hey look in a few short weeks I've worked all there is to know about Thargoids and also worked out the complete history of the Guardians.... I've also worked out all their weapons, defences and ships not to mention their AI...

Peel back the mask and he's a lizard and has been fooling us all along! ;-)

P.S. nobody take this seriously...
 

Vetinari

V
Lyta Crane is Ram Tah's nom de plume, he's just making it up as he goes along to make money and be famous. A war you say Mr Tah, how exciting, let me pay you for an interview (in reality The Guardians all died from a particularly virulent STD)

Etienne Dorn is repopulating Raxxla with all those escape pods.

the Martian Relic is actually fossilised alien poop, thats why nobody talks about it, its just embarrassing

Professor Palin is honouring his ancestor and making a travelogue for GalNet, thats why he moved ffrom Maia.
 

Han_Zen

Han_Zen
simulacrae said:
I do like that ... raxxla as a construct :) ... perhaps its guardian AI combined with thargoid gate technology used as a means of ghost writing childrens books about princesses and spiraling stars.
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If we believe Rafe Zetter, Raxxla is a planet and it has an alien construct. In ED the word 'construct' is used as a name for the Guardian AI.
I'm not a native English speaker, but to me it feels a bit odd to use that word for a virtual entity. It doesn't feel like a coincidence. 🤷‍♂️
 

[PS4] Filthymick420

[PS4] Filthymick420
Han_Zen said:
If we believe Rafe Zetter, Raxxla is a planet and it has an alien construct. In ED the word 'construct' is used as a name for the Guardian AI.
I'm not a native English speaker, but to me it feels a bit odd to use that word for a virtual entity. It doesn't feel like a coincidence. 🤷‍♂️
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I wonder if, translated to other languages, they retain similar meaning contextually?
 
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