Honestly I think the massive tantrum over Horizons pricing (which led to a price reduction maybe ? wasn't bothered myself so no idea) made them reassess the financial viability and everything got shifted back till the bottom line looked better. Pure speculation.
Frontier discusses walking in ships in Dev Plan
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Honestly I think the massive tantrum over Horizons pricing (which led to a price reduction maybe ? wasn't bothered myself so no idea) made them reassess the financial viability and everything got shifted back till the bottom line looked better. Pure speculation.
I think the main problem is that for Frontier, Elite is a hobby. A pet project they love and they're going to be working on indefinitely, but in a similar manner we focus on our own hobbies.
I'm building a model ship for the last couple of years. I love it, I'm gonna work on it forever, probably, and it's getting better and more done all the time, but if somebody asked me what I'm going to do next, when it's gonna be done or how it's gonna look like, I wouldn't be able to answer.
That DBOBE video in the OP and most of the official statements of late are like me browsing the model ships in a shop and it has just as much informational value about the finished product.
We should just enjoy the ride.
A lot has changed since Frontier originally made those videos, and I wouldn't assume anything said in them is at all relevant to the game we have today.
Frontier have an unfortunate track record of being woefully out of touch with their players, and I suspect Odyssey will be another missed opportunity to add with the rest.
That being said, I will be extremely happy to be proven wrong.
Frontier have an unfortunate track record of being woefully out of touch with their players, and I suspect Odyssey will be another missed opportunity to add with the rest.
That being said, I will be extremely happy to be proven wrong.
I mean, even in the leaked road map, nothing is said about interactive ship interiors. So based on that, I would say we have little to no reason to believe we'll be getting it any time soon. Face to face encounters with Thargoids in the flesh and base building would more than make up for its absence the way I see it. I'm betting no would really give much of a damn about traversing a ship if that turned out to be true.
Indeed. Although I can't see base building being a thing, if they can't even give us limited freedom to walk around in our ships.
Well, what are the things you would be doing that would actually add to the gameplay? Is there an actual purpose or is it just going to be the same bland and uninspired experience that it is in Star Citizen? With the idea of there being social hubs, there would be lots more meaningful things to do with base building than there ever will be walking around a ship.
Age is subjective mate, I wouldn't worry about it
(It's the little things in life that make it worth living...lol)
Mmmm...that does sound a good time. I do miss it. Well? If you've an English accent the American women love that. But me? The American? When going to Stretford? Not so much (LOL). It's a funny old world.
Here's to hoping too, no harm in that.
It's a very different world though since the pandemic and nothing is really that certain anymore - even in games.
Wouldn't that only be a problem if they didn't have a firm intention of doing all that stuff anyway? I don't think its as bad as it seems because they are still following through doing it even though its taking a while.
If anything it was a misapplication of kickstarter.. frontier were never in the position of a company looking for money to pay employees from the kickstarter alone, it was a marketing proof of concept that allowed the to take preorder sales well before what they had made would have allowed otherwise. While frontier were never at all in the kickstarter developer shoes, people expected everything that goes along with that, and the reality of frontier rolling differently in their corporate existence creates the gap that causes the problems.
Yeah but in the scenario you don't get what you want the company goes out of business, not stonewalls you, does other things and grows 5x as large off the back of that title and just continues to do what it wants.
Its a unique permutation
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To be fair Space Legs or ship interiors were neither actually sold nor guaranteed (unless you want to turn this into a LEP discussion), only presented as future intent and to be paid for at that undetermined future time if realized. Heck, even Odyssey is still not available for pre orders.
As for changes in those original intents, if any, fully agree with you regarding info. Regarding space legs or ship interiors info I guess this year is when FDEV has precisely decided to start discussing a big chunk of it. Buyers will probably have most or all the info they need prior to a buy / no buy decision of Odyssey.
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Like I said communication in the form of some sort of retrospective I think would go a long way. It would not stop all the complaints of course but when a plan involves sticking with a company over a course of years then until we hear otherwise of course customers will refer to "the plan" years down the line. IF that plan has changed better to pull the plaster off quickly than leave people hanging imo.
in some cases i would agree with you. change of management, sale of a company, economic downturns, etc. usually lend to long term road maps being hard to realize.
except
which is from beta. sure looks to me like they had a plan and have worked that plan reliably if not delayed beyond players expectations and, after the release of Odyssey, will be one bullet point away from executing a 7 year roadmap.
Base building "isn't on the Roadmap" according to Frontier.
Stretford isn't quite the same type of place, but got to admire the effort lol!
A funny old world indeed mate.What I meant, was that if something as simple as exploring the cockpit area of our ship is out of reach, then it's hard to imagine anything more complicated.
Being able to purchase and own pre-existing structures would be nice.
But I thought Frontier said that unless they can actually find a purpose gameplay wise for it, they aren't going to implement it. To me, its not a matter of complexity seeing they gave us the entire milky way galaxy to scale. I just don't see a point in wasting time & valuable resources on it if the only thing we get out of it is "immersion". Traversing stations, caves, etc will give us that "immersive" experience if that's all people want. But walking around a ship just for the hell of it? Nah, we can do without it if its just gonna be Star Citizen all over again. 
They are still within the 10 years plan.
Every time an update has been announced, people act as if it was the last...
"Oh no! We can't walk inside our ships with Odyssey!"
Okay. I'd like to land on more atmospherics. Not included either. There will be an update after Odyssey though, and maybe ships and thicker atmospheres are part of it.
I believe they could give us limited freedom to walk around our ships but decided against it for the initial Odyssey release.
In fact, you can already walk around your cockpit using VR, so saying they can't do it isn't accurate at all.
Yep, I bet that 10 year plan may turn out to be 13-15 years on a maintenance type schedule.
It could speed up though if competition cuts into sales more. Then again if sales slump too much, we may never see the inside of ships and stations.
It could speed up though if competition cuts into sales more. Then again if sales slump too much, we may never see the inside of ships and stations.
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