Just like the real thing then?Yeah, this parody nails it pretty well at first but quickly sleeps in dark disturbing territories
Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12
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I don't think Mike has zero confidence, and like many others, they probably just can't or are not willing to put more money in. They see that CIG still needs tens, or probably hundreds of millions to get a released product out of the door. But i think he still has some confidence that CIG can deliver on something decent, just as long as the funding keeps flowing.
I'm also sure that Mike knows that if funding stops, its game over.
If he had zero confidence i presume he (and others like him) would already have bailed and become skeptics.
But the writing has been on the wall for a while now, even for some of the more hardcore backers, faith is slowly being eroded. Of course, that fath can be restored from time to time with bits of progress, or the odd ship sale, but my general feeling is salt levels are slowly rising overall.
It might takes a good while more though before it all falls apart, and CIG can push it back significantly by adding a second system before that happens. Faith will be restored to many, funding will go up, and then CIG can take another few years working on the third system.
The whole reboot thing is nothing but deflection and apologism for the game taking so long to develop....
When Elite was being made it was changed considerably to incorporate Supercruise in order to add scale to the game world, no one has ever called that a reboot
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how do you think CR will go down in history?
I feel he is going to get much more hate then other lying devs/publishers
I know Tod Howard and Peter Molyneux are known for lying about their games but I remember mostly their good games like fallout3 black and white.
I just dont think they ever extracted near as much money from fans
I feel he is going to get much more hate then other lying devs/publishers
I know Tod Howard and Peter Molyneux are known for lying about their games but I remember mostly their good games like fallout3 black and white.
I just dont think they ever extracted near as much money from fans
It's the Hollywood accounting that changes Chris Roberts from an incompetent game developer in over his head, to someone who’s using the illusion of developing a game to enrich himself, and his family and friends. Incompetents don’t create dozens of legal fictional entities to drain a project of funds. It’s a pity only the UK requires such public statements form companies. The Roberts clan have “earned” millions from Star Citizen UK companies alone. Who knows what they’ve “earned“ from the numerous US and German companies, which are completely opaque to the public.
Youre right I mixed them up. Mike has no more willingness to put any of his own money in but wants others to do so. The caller had lost confidence and saw that only new players could bail them out. But the conversation was still disturbing and one of them is actively promoting it to new people. Theres a comment on one of his vids from someone who had signed up in the last 2 weeks.
imo Mike is still the worst. He is lucid enough to know its a waste of money but delusional enough to take everything at face value still and still expect it to work out with the next update that miraculously fixes whatever is the topic that week, but lucid enough to know that his dream will only work if other people put money into something hes not willing to. He has little confidence but its held in check by dreams.
Youre right, most people go full on against it after they lose faith. But some have created their entire fan base and future income from being on one side or another and his back is up against the wall now. He can either dig in or jump out of the hole. I think he knows how bad it is but is just unwilling to accept what it will mean, his dream is over in more ways than one and he may feel crappy about the harm he has done to the people who trusted him....eventually but not right now and thats my problem with him. Hes another arrogant airline pilot who will harm more than just himself but he knows it. He has compass blindness and he knows it, hes terrified of it being true but will not accept he could be at fault and change course.
Thank you.
Is there a video or article where a CIG representative said iCache is "finished" in some sense?
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Do you mean that you trust anything said by other CIG employees, except CR?
And let's not forget that SC was described as an MMO by just about everyone. By the backers in particular, but also by CI¬G. They had the “no, it's not an MMO” answer in the FAQ, but let's look closer at that:Describes an MMO. Granted, it describes an MMO from 30 years ago, when computers were much less powerful and bandwidth muchless(edit
In other words, their reasoning for why it “was not an MMO” was that it was an MMO, and more. The simple, lowly MMO moniker was insufficient to describe the never-done-before magnum opus of CRobber, and that's the reason it would be false to call it one: because while it was an MMO, it was also so many other things. So even the official “not an MMO” stance was just a bit of semantic bragging. It was like the old Spaceballs quote: “we're not doing this for the money … we're doing it for a bleepload of money”.Kickstarter said:
From the very start, SC was an MMO. They said so themselves, in the most oblique way possible.
There's nothing to suggest this.
He did realise at the point he was saying this that I was playing on third-party modded Freelancer servers with 500 or more players at a single time running just fine, because networking tech had improved significantly in the intervening decade since it had launched, right?
"Still, you should consider the game is already running on a budget 5 times a Witcher 3."
"An established title, in an established company, with fully stocked assets and infrastructure, an experienced and full employee pool, and lots of copy/ paste code from Witcher I and II and how many other titles....and your comparing that to company making 5 games, and company itself, from scratch?"
Five games now, what did I miss?
He forgot the usual deluded backer line that they were busy with Cyberpunk since 2012 as well, but you have to be flexible when making up rubbish to support this disaster.
"An established title, in an established company, with fully stocked assets and infrastructure, an experienced and full employee pool, and lots of copy/ paste code from Witcher I and II and how many other titles....and your comparing that to company making 5 games, and company itself, from scratch?"
Five games now, what did I miss?
He forgot the usual deluded backer line that they were busy with Cyberpunk since 2012 as well, but you have to be flexible when making up rubbish to support this disaster.
Also, let's not gloss over the arrogance of it, bringing up “the Privateer experience” as if he had any clue what that was. He had nothing to do with that game aside from plastering his name on the box. He's trying to paint it as a natural progression rather than what it actually was: he had wasted his time making a tired re-skin of WC that ended up being less than fantastic and not particularly popular, while part of the production posse were allowed to work on their own without his interference and consequently came up with something new and interesting. Or, well… interesting at least, and if not entirely new, then at least a twist on the old formula. But unlike his waste of time, that off-shoot became popular and people look back at it with fondness. And here he's trying to appropriate their work as his own.
Oh, and let's also not gloss over that by the time Freelancer was released (which was probably sooner than if CRobber had been left at the wheel), Planetside offered 500-player FPS combat… 128 wasn't a unpractical or theoretical back in 2003 unless you're talking about simple arena combat games like unmodded Battlefield (64p max).
Viajero
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No. Chris Roberts & company are too focused on creating art assets that will need to redone ad nauseum, to lay the necessary foundations of the actual game.
Worth buying? Summary yes/ no replies appreciated
Definitely not.
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Give it 90 days and then don't buy it.GUYS - just jumping in here to ask - is there a game here yet? Worth buying? Summary yes/ no replies appreciated