Gankers' rights movement?

Miko

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Sir Ganksalot said:
If they're so fed up with Elite because of gankers than why don't they take a few minutes to learn how to survive a gank? Its extremely easy to do.
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I'm an experienced player and I wouldn't quite label it extremely easy to escape the clutches of an experienced team using FSD missiles among other tools. Vanilla ships can die in a single plasma volley, too, writing off months of exploration data in an instant. There are some people who foolishly get lured and then back stabbed because some of these guys love to play dirty and behaved like complete scum.

Anyways, it's Elite Dangerous after all. It's for them to learn from the error of their ways, sadly. But for some, it's too much to handle, especially if they don't have all day, every day, to play Elite and "get gud".
 

Sir Ganksalot

Sir Ganksalot
Miko said:
I'm an experienced player and I wouldn't quite label it extremely easy to escape the clutches of an experienced team using FSD missiles among other tools. Vanilla ships can die in a single plasma volley, too, writing off months of exploration data in an instant. There are some people who foolishly get lured and then back stabbed because some of these guys love to play dirty and behaved like complete scum.

Anyways, it's Elite Dangerous after all. It's for them to learn from the error of their ways, sadly. But for some, it's too much to handle, especially if they don't have all day, every day, to play Elite and "get gud".
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I'm literally streaming with Exigeous in a few weeks to show how to escape 4 gankers equipped with Grom bombs.
Also, to become a teacher in my gank evasion academy you have to survive a gank with an unengineered Cobra III, which I have a video of @Danquememe doing with ease against my fully engineered PvP ship with 4 plasma accelerators.

If someone can't handle it, they need to play in solo or PG. There's literally no excuse to come to the forums to complain about gankers. We are a legitimate part of the game and if someone doesn't like it, there are multiple options for them to avoid us.
 

Miko

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Sir Ganksalot said:
I'm literally streaming with Exigeous in a few weeks to show how to escape 4 gankers equipped with Grom bombs.
Also, to become a teacher in my gank evasion academy you have to survive a gank with an unengineered Cobra III, which I have a video of @Danquememe doing with ease against my fully engineered PvP ship with 4 plasma accelerators.

If someone can't handle it, they need to play in solo or PG. There's literally no excuse to come to the forums to complain about gankers. We are a legitimate part of the game and if someone doesn't like it, there are multiple options for them to avoid us.
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You needn't take personal offense at what I touched upon and my emphasis wasn't on it being impossible to escape gankers, but certainly not extremely easy as you put it. A vanilla Conda is a big difference from a slimline cobra.
 

SergMx

SergMx
Miko said:
You needn't take personal offense at what I touched upon and my emphasis wasn't on it being impossible to escape gankers, but certainly not extremely easy as you put it. A vanilla Conda is a big difference from a slimline cobra.
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The game has a wonderful mechanism for forbidden leaf. Is it not if YOU phone someone spamming YOU do not include it in such a list ?
 

KnezBP

KnezBP
No offence to anyone above but I've come to hate the word 'toxic'. It's a media term used to paint normal everyday fans of a particular IP as evil and non-inclusive.

That's partly why I refer to seal clubbers as trash.

I do particularly agree with Miko on one point though. I can't say there are less human players than there were months back but I consider myself fortunate if I see three in a week. I find it to be pretty quiet in open.

Better to have gankers than NPC's at this point.
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
KnezBP said:
No offence to anyone above but I've come to hate the word 'toxic'. It's a media term used to paint normal everyday fans of a particular IP as evil and non-inclusive.

That's partly why I refer to seal clubbers as trash.

I do particularly agree with Miko on one point though. I can't say there are less human players than there were months back but I consider myself fortunate if I see three in a week. I find it to be pretty quiet in open.

Better to have gankers than NPC's at this point.
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I honestly wonder how much of that is because all the people getting hype and grinding for carriers have stopped doing so, and got bored when they realised there wasn't really a need to have eleventy billion credits. Or else got the carrier and realised that it's not all that much if you're not planning to actually use it for something. If the only goal you can think of in the game is "make credits" then you're kinda done at that point. So player numbers spiked on the carrier launch date announcement, really spiked on the launch, and now they're going back to where they were.

With one exception - since carriers can't enter shindez, all the people that defaulted to Jameson Memorial as "best place for home base" have been scattered elsewhere. Maybe not scattered far, but enough to have a similar effect on Jameson that the PF district had on the likes of Eravate - the traffic's still there, it's just not all in the same system any more.
 

KnezBP

KnezBP
I'm not really clued in on the carrier situation but that's interesting about Shindez. I was under the impression that you couldn't obtain a permit for Pilot's Federation space.
 

KnezBP

KnezBP
I might take a little 30 minute wander to Sol before I watch The Boys in a couple of hours, should anyone need to assassinate me.

And is it just me or does everyone feel like they're flying drunk when you've been away from the controls for a few days? It goes away quick but I'm often just happy to leave a station in one piece. I've been away for a couple of weeks so I hope I'm on a planet somewhere.
 

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Carriers can't jump into permit locked systems. Shinrarta Dezhra permits are issued to anyone that has Elite in one of the three main roles (combat/explo/trade).
 

KnezBP

KnezBP
Just gonna take a little walk on my way to Sol.

Make a lane, griefer biotches. :cool:

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GSA713

GSA713
There's 2 camps here, apparently 1 supporting the gankers, and the other complaining about them...Only a few point out the gankers complete lack of testicles to jump on new players on their way to the 1st engineer, a route ALL of us have to take to progress in the game. Here too, there are choices, play in private, and avoid the gankers, or get in a wing, and try your luck. The weakest thing I've seen replied on here is "We're just playing the way we want to play, being bad guys"...wrong...if you want to play Galactic Bad Guy, go to one of the other engineers systems, and do your bad stuff there, not in the very first zone new players are funneled into by the game. This isn't a "Waaaah, they keep killing me", it's a "You're only succeeding in turning new players away from the game, and advancing the death of the game in the process"...
 

KnezBP

KnezBP
Took a quick trip to Sol so I could give the engine a little run after a couple of weeks absence and thought I'd spread some poorly spelt Beach Boys love in the chat.

One human player encountered but they high woke(?) as I carefully considered pulling them out of supercruise and starting a new life as a pirate.

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BobJP

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GSA713 said:
There's 2 camps here, apparently 1 supporting the gankers, and the other complaining about them...Only a few point out the gankers complete lack of testicles to jump on new players on their way to the 1st engineer, a route ALL of us have to take to progress in the game. Here too, there are choices, play in private, and avoid the gankers, or get in a wing, and try your luck. The weakest thing I've seen replied on here is "We're just playing the way we want to play, being bad guys"...wrong...if you want to play Galactic Bad Guy, go to one of the other engineers systems, and do your bad stuff there, not in the very first zone new players are funneled into by the game. This isn't a "Waaaah, they keep killing me", it's a "You're only succeeding in turning new players away from the game, and advancing the death of the game in the process"...
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I think it's more about casting your net where the fish are then seal-clubbing
All the cool kids get their FSD engineered by Mel Brandon anyway
 

Brrokk

Brrokk
GSA713 said:
There's 2 camps here, apparently 1 supporting the gankers, and the other complaining about them...Only a few point out the gankers complete lack of testicles to jump on new players on their way to the 1st engineer, a route ALL of us have to take to progress in the game. Here too, there are choices, play in private, and avoid the gankers, or get in a wing, and try your luck. The weakest thing I've seen replied on here is "We're just playing the way we want to play, being bad guys"...wrong...if you want to play Galactic Bad Guy, go to one of the other engineers systems, and do your bad stuff there, not in the very first zone new players are funneled into by the game. This isn't a "Waaaah, they keep killing me", it's a "You're only succeeding in turning new players away from the game, and advancing the death of the game in the process"...
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I didn't quite believe all the stuff I was reading about Deciat, so the last couple of evenings I went flying around there in a stock Sidewinder. Not the sort of ship that would interest anyone wanting real PvP action. Three rebuys so far, and blocks for the block god. Each time, just interdiction, me throttling-down and saying "Hi", then "boom". This is really out of control; it must be putting new players off the game in the first system they get directed to out of the starter area. I consider people scum who just want to blow up new players before they've had a chance to do engineering or gain combat experience. I'm not upset at being blown up as I was expecting it, but I'm angry that those people are damaging the reputation and future prospects of the game I enjoy.
 

Bigmaec

Bigmaec
Brrokk said:
I didn't quite believe all the stuff I was reading about Deciat, so the last couple of evenings I went flying around there in a stock Sidewinder. Not the sort of ship that would interest anyone wanting real PvP action. Three rebuys so far, and blocks for the block god. This is really out of control; it must be putting new players off the game in the first system they get directed to out of the starter area. I consider people scum who just want to blow up new players before they've had a chance to learn engineering or gain combat experience. I'm not upset at being blown up as I was expecting it, but I'm angry that those people are damaging the reputation and future prospects of the game I enjoy.
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If only there was some player driven retaliation force, like ATR just by players...
 

Screemonster

Screemonster
GSA713 said:
if you want to play Galactic Bad Guy, go to one of the other engineers systems, and do your bad stuff there
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Well that just seems counterproductive. It's still ganking at an engineer, what makes Farseer special?

If you'd said "if you want to be pirates then go to the best painite sell system" then you might have had a point. Well, if the pirates didn't hang out in those systems, that is. And the pirates are very glad that the gankers are all hanging out in Deciat instead. If the gankers are all concentrated in deciat then that makes everywhere else that little bit safer by definition.
 

Robert Maynard

Volunteer Moderator
Robert Maynard
Sounds like something that any players seeking PvP could engage in - if they wanted to - not just those who have previously done so.

The problem for any players specifically targeting known gankers is that they require to target specific individuals - who may, at the time of any encounter, be engaged in other activities - which is likely to cause complaints from those targeted. The gankers, of course, don't appear to adhere to any rules of engagement.
 
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