Game Discussions Star Citizen Discussion Thread v12

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Why is it that when we discuss SC development in english the words seem to have different meanings depending not on our own native language but on our current opinion or view about the project? We all observe something like a delay but for some its a warning sign or hinting at internal problems while others relax and think everything is a-okay cuz CIG is taking their time? I m pretty sure a lot of misunderstandings or friction in regards to Star Citizen is born out of lost-in-translation issues but thats something I would expect and understand from private people/backers....not the company itself.

Scientists all over the world manage to communicte and work on the same basis because they have learned to establish a baseline and adhere to it. Certain parameters have the exact same meaning regardless where you are on earth and where you are coming from. When you use a specific term it doesnt matter if you do it in english, german, russian or whatever...that term has a fixed meaning. I was under the assumption that coding and game development underlies the same ruleset.How else would teams from all over the world be able to work efficiently together? Sure you have new words being invented all the time but usually out of necessity due to improvements or creations where old terms are simply insufficient.

Now with SC we suddenly stumble over stuff like "release" or "alpha", "win" and other basic stuff that everybody understands or should understand. Why is CIG so interested in rewriting an established system when all it does is confusing everybody...including their own developers?
 
to drag the thread back on topic :D

Why is it that when we discuss SC development in english the words seem to have different meanings depending not on our own native language but on our current opinion or view about the project? We all observe something like a delay but for some its a warning sign or hinting at internal problems while others relax and think everything is a-okay cuz CIG is taking their time? I m pretty sure a lot of misunderstandings or friction in regards to Star Citizen is born out of lost-in-translation issues but thats something I would expect and understand from private people/backers....not the company itself.

Scientists all over the world manage to communicte and work on the same basis because they have learned to establish a baseline and adhere to it. Certain parameters have the exact same meaning regardless where you are on earth and where you are coming from. When you use a specific term it doesnt matter if you do it in english, german, russian or whatever...that term has a fixed meaning. I was under the assumption that coding and game development underlies the same ruleset.How else would teams from all over the world be able to work efficiently together? Sure you have new words being invented all the time but usually out of necessity due to improvements or creations where old terms are simply insufficient.

Now with SC we suddenly stumble over stuff like "release" or "alpha", "win" and other basic stuff that everybody understands or should understand. Why is CIG so interested in rewriting an established system when all it does is confusing everybody...including their own developers?
Because they unprofessionalised the business. the customer is now investor, too, but without a say. So they need to lull them in with doublespeak and smokebombs. Repeated lies complete the picture until people start believing that crap. It's kinda the same in the US, imo.
 
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Nooooooo! 😩

Also, because CI¬G has discovered and grown very fond of using technical language in a way to obfuscate the fact that they have no idea what they're doing, which works very well when your audience obediently repeat all that nonsense without second thought but which also results in the words used to describe the project no longer meaning what they actually mean. Like it's a deliberate strategy to keep everything as closed and hidden as possible.

Cf. “refactoring”, “roadmap”, “release”, “alpha” etc etc etc.
 
Finnish is my native language

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Yes I know. But I avoid it in games because when I play, I don't want to learn, just enjoy what I do.
Sometimes putting ourselves in danger is the best way, and you can be surprised how you can learn and enjoy at the same time: few months back I played Sea of Thieves and ended with 2 random fellows: a german and a french (who couldn't speak english). Being french myself I ended talking with both of them and translate for each others. Was quite hard (I don't practise speaking english enough, and manning the ships all the while switching language) but utterly fun and gratifying.
 
to drag the thread back on topic :D

Why is it that when we discuss SC development in english the words seem to have different meanings depending not on our own native language but on our current opinion or view about the project? We all observe something like a delay but for some its a warning sign or hinting at internal problems while others relax and think everything is a-okay cuz CIG is taking their time? I m pretty sure a lot of misunderstandings or friction in regards to Star Citizen is born out of lost-in-translation issues but thats something I would expect and understand from private people/backers....not the company itself.

Scientists all over the world manage to communicte and work on the same basis because they have learned to establish a baseline and adhere to it. Certain parameters have the exact same meaning regardless where you are on earth and where you are coming from. When you use a specific term it doesnt matter if you do it in english, german, russian or whatever...that term has a fixed meaning. I was under the assumption that coding and game development underlies the same ruleset.How else would teams from all over the world be able to work efficiently together? Sure you have new words being invented all the time but usually out of necessity due to improvements or creations where old terms are simply insufficient.

Now with SC we suddenly stumble over stuff like "release" or "alpha", "win" and other basic stuff that everybody understands or should understand. Why is CIG so interested in rewriting an established system when all it does is confusing everybody...including their own developers?

My favourite is their creation of the future-as-present tense.
 
I think males showing emotions is a wonderful thing

It was the depth of the emotional language that touched me, iirc 'Its beautiful, its frickin beautiful, im frickin crying' or similar poetry, tis rare to see these days...

So, unless its just coincidence, it points to a common origin in both languages.

Almost definitely, across most languages, Latin base in Europe, later books spread one language base. One tribe left Africa roughly 30,000 years ago iirc. I always think 2 brothers with 2 tribes, one stayed and one crossed. The tribe that crossed from Africa into Europe had about 30 people. 30 People speaking the same language as the tribe that waved them off after a huge party and the rest is history...

Yes I know. But I avoid it in games because when I play, I don't want to learn, just enjoy what I do.

If you can, post the mission speak on here and we can at least give the english for what they are saying. Im sure if you can identify the mission someone can record if you cant or will know whats being said.
 
Almost definitely, across most languages, Latin base in Europe, later books spread one language base. One tribe left Africa roughly 30,000 years ago iirc. I always think 2 brothers with 2 tribes, one stayed and one crossed. The tribe that crossed from Africa into Europe had about 30 people. 30 People speaking the same language as the tribe that waved them off after a huge party and the rest is history...

Well, it probably helps that we all came from Caprica and the other 11 colonies. :D
 
I apparently missed this:


I think it takes no imagination as to how SC faithful will see this. That FD are just like other big publishers, pumping out low quality games and making bank from them. Only CIG treats its supporters right and are trying to make a quality game.
 
Why is it that when we discuss SC development in english the words seem to have different meanings depending not on our own native language but on our current opinion or view about the project?
The SC community passes around "alternative facts." Yesterday CaptainBerks said it took ten years to develop WoW.
 
All the Gaelic or Celtic languages (Scots, Irish, Welsh, Cornish, Breton and Conualles from northern France... and the Isle of Man) have...besides the spelling... the same descriptive word for Englishmen ;)... Sassenach or Sassnog (Saxons)

Scots and Irish Gaels also have the same word for Vikings ...'Lochlannaigh' ...or 'Lochlannach' in Irish Gaelic...
Gaun yirsel pal.
 

Viajero

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I apparently missed this:


I think it takes no imagination as to how SC faithful will see this. That FD are just like other big publishers, pumping out low quality games and making bank from them. Only CIG treats its supporters right and are trying to make a quality game.

Dont think most SC fans will even know about it, much less care. Seems like a very specific Cambridge centric publication no?
 
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