New currency in Odyssey

If anything, what stuck out to me the most is that you can play the game entirely without ever owning your own ship... this just honestly seems odd to me.

Imagine playing Flight Simulator 2020 and never flying a plane. Or a car racing game where you walk around the garage bringing tools and parts to people. Not that you couldn't make these activities fun in some way, it just wouldn't be the "core" of the game.

Obviously I'm exaggerating a bit here, but I dont know, it seems like melding two game into one. Perhaps I've always come to know and love Elite Dangerous as a space ship/flight simulator/game as being its core central focus. Needless to say I'm eager to see how this all plays out.
To clarify, I really like the idea that I can progress on-foot stuff solely on foot, and progress ship stuff solely in my ship. It echoes Elite's core principles: "Blaze your own trail", "Play how you want", "Infinite freedom", etc....
What doesn't echo those same principles is both being completely separate from each other. If I want to grind suit mats and "currencies" in my ship, I should be able to do that, and vice versa.
 
What doesn't echo those same principles is both being completely separate from each other. If I want to grind suit mats and "currencies" in my ship, I should be able to do that, and vice versa.

I cant see that being the case, if you need a new kind of mat to engineer/modify your suit you can either use taxi or your ship to get there and get it
you'll be able to play the game on foot, in ship or combination of both
 

rgiles1818b

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To clarify, I really like the idea that I can progress on-foot stuff solely on foot, and progress ship stuff solely in my ship. It echoes Elite's core principles: "Blaze your own trail", "Play how you want", "Infinite freedom", etc....
What doesn't echo those same principles is both being completely separate from each other. If I want to grind suit mats and "currencies" in my ship, I should be able to do that, and vice versa.
Except when it has to do with interdictions. I'm sure I will continue to get them even though I hate them.
 
The actual quote from OA is:
Suits are obviously just one type of new on foot related item. Others will include various types of equipment in addition to weapons. For those of you wondering if you will be able to buy all of these with your current credits, the answer to that appears to be no. A new form of trading will be introduced where new valuable items will be required for the trade.
I read this as upgrades to suits / weapons / utilities require you to exchange "valuable items" for upgrades. In my opinion this looks like you scavenge items to swap for suit upgrades rather than buy with credits.
Ultimately its still early days yet so probably best to wait until there is confirmation before rejoicing / getting eggy.
 
For better immersion, we should have a new currency for every inhabitable world:

Earth Pounds, Lave Dollars, Tionisla Yen, Maia Ringgit, Colonia Francs...
Not sure if serious but that is actually a damn good idea. 3 currencies for 3 powers then unaligned have their own. Obviously possible to convert but with a big fee to do it. Better imo than magic iron and sulphur that money can't buy
 
The actual quote from OA is:

I read this as upgrades to suits / weapons / utilities require you to exchange "valuable items" for upgrades. In my opinion this looks like you scavenge items to swap for suit upgrades rather than buy with credits.
Ultimately its still early days yet so probably best to wait until there is confirmation before rejoicing / getting eggy.


"Exchanging valuable items" is exactly what Frontier said, and is what I said in the video. :)
 
In general i feel like odysee is sort of a standalone in hte elite universe, with totaly unrelated gameplay , and atm , no change for the whole space sim/game part.
It's kinda nice they add this ,but it is also really sad that they left the rest of the game. I do hope they put some link between the 2 games (ody and elite) and please , continue to improve all the space and ships part.

Someone say once in this forum that FD liked to build around what they already have instead of building atop (or reinforce) , this has never been so true.
 
In general i feel like odysee is sort of a standalone in hte elite universe, with totaly unrelated gameplay , and atm , no change for the whole space sim/game part.
It's kinda nice they add this ,but it is also really sad that they left the rest of the game. I do hope they put some link between the 2 games (ody and elite) and please , continue to improve all the space and ships part.

Someone say once in this forum that FD liked to build around what they already have instead of building atop (or reinforce) , this has never been so true.
It might have to do with how they structure their teams and what they work on as development goals. It seems compartmentalized with what new things the management think they can market at the time.

They seem to get to a point where things are "good enough" and then move on, maybe to return later to flesh things out more, maybe.
 
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Of course there will be a new GIANT GRIND with Odyssey. The base game introduces the CR and reputation grinds. Horizons adds the whole ship engineering grind. And Odyssey will add a new grind to setup your EVA suits.

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p.s. I LOVE the GRIND! The grind is why I'm still here. I know it sounded like a complaint, mea culpa. The GRIND is LIFE!
 
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The grind is all in your mind.

You don't need to race to the best G5 everything. I've been playing since 2014 haven't even unlocked all the Engineers. Never once have I "ground" or felt resentful of any time I've spent playing it. I mean, I know that's anecdotal but... yeah...

Do some missions, explore a bit, mess around with the background sim, whatever. Do a bit of Engineering here and there as and when you find the parts. Your modules will still work with a grade two or three or four on there, and you'll not be having such a rubbish time.

There's nothing in this game that's locked behind G5 upgrades, except maybe competitive PvP.

The possessive obsessive perfectionist mindset is the enemy of fun times in Elite.
 
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The grind is all in your mind.

You don't need to race to the best G5 everything. I've been playing since 2014 haven't even unlocked all the Engineers. Never once have I "ground" or felt resentful of any time I've spent playing it.

Do some missions, explore a bit, mess around with the background sim, whatever. Do a bit of Engineering here and there as you find the parts. Your modules will still work with a grade two or three or four on there, and you'll not be having such a rubbish time.

There's nothing in this game that's locked behind G5 upgrades, except maybe competitive PvP.

The possessive obsessive mindset is the enemy of your fun times in Elite.
The game-play progression is intentionally padded with "grind." It is in the game, not in your mind. Unfortunately, that isn't really the game I want to play. Having a decent bit of kit would be nice, but I haven't gotten around to it really yet. I'm too busy trying to have fun playing the game "my way."
 
The game-play progression is intentionally padded with "grind." It is in the game, not in your mind. Unfortunately, that isn't really the game I want to play. Having a decent bit of kit would be nice, but I haven't gotten around to it really yet. I'm too busy trying to have fun playing the game.

Nah. It's not in my game, or my mind. Same game, different people, different experiences... what's the uncommon denomonator?

The minute I felt bored, I'd do something else. It's an entertainment product, so it's competing for my attention against millions of other options, some of them even productive. Life is too short to do unnecessary stuff I hate.
 
Nah. It's not in my game, or my mind. Same game, different people, different experiences... what's the uncommon denomonator?

The minute I felt bored, I'd do something else. It's an entertainment product, so it's competing for my attention against millions of other options, some of them even productive. Life is too short to do unnecessary stuff I hate.
Sure, you can ignore the "grind" to an extent if you like. It is definitely there by design though in terms of game progression. Suit yourself, same as me, and make the most of it either way.

That being said, I suppose some may actually enjoy the "grind." I happen to not really care for it so much myself. It's not that I want instant gratification by any means; I'd just generally rather be doing what I actually care to do in the game in spite of the intended game progression.

Part of the distinction for me is between meta game-play and immersive (what I'd call contextually apt) game-play. For others, these things may overlap more depending on how they care to approach and play the game, or be less significant factors.

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rgiles1818b

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The ppl that say there is no grind in ED are the same that aways say here that ED is perfect without issues. They really need help soon before it's to late.
 
If this is true, then that is a bummer. Separating the two modes further certainly isn't what I want, but I may be in the minority here. I'd prefer they focus on further improving and growing on the things that make Elite the game it is, as opposed to chasing small bits of what makes a game like SC interesting.

We still have only 2 types of large stations. Still only 1 SRV, since the launch of Horizons. It's depressing and makes no sense.

That said, they've repeatedly said things like "if you prefer flying your ship, cool keep doing that.....on foot only, cool.....combined? EVEN BETTER.

This doesn't embrace that concept to me.
 
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