Frontier: give the FSD to ALL players, regardless of whether they took part or not

Reducing the Reward Tier to 75%:

Happy: .0001% of the player base (those who got 75% and 50% on last CG)
Fuming Mad and Frustrated: 99.999% of the player base (those who spent time and effort to meet 25% and those who didn't join the CG and discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier goal)

Just give the damn TOP TIER FSD to EVERYONE for FREE or honor the original CG mechanics!
Fuming Mad and Frustrated: 0.0001% of the player base (those who spent time and effort to meet 25% and those who didn't join the CG and discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier goal)

Happy: 0.0001% of the player base (those who got 75% and 50% on last CG)

Indifferent: 99.9998% of the player base (those who don't care)

FTFY
 
I actually did this CG and got into the top 25% and then RL called and I didn't get back on, on Sunday night. Over night I fell out of the top 25% and fell into the top 50% so didn't get the drive.

Sucks to be me right? WRONG!!! I have a new drive literally WHINING its way to me on the back of a million tears.

Never change ED community
 
Fuming Mad and Frustrated: 0.0001% of the player base (those who spent time and effort to meet 25% and those who didn't join the CG and discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier goal)

Happy: 0.0001% of the player base (those who got 75% and 50% on last CG)

Indifferent: 99.9998% of the player base (those who don't care)

FTFY

I'm sure those 99.99998% showing indifference now (those who didn't participate the CG) will make up their minds on which side to choose ones they see the argument of getting a FREE TOP TIER DOUBLE ENGINEERED FSD all because they were discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier requirements.
 
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I never said ED wasn't an MMO. I think it obviously is. However, I don't think that this is particularly relevant.

I was just pointing out that Frontier's left hand often doesn't know what's right hand is doing.
Well that's a different problem and as a Powerplayer you can't even imagine how I agre with you about this. But again: different problem.
 
I'm sure that 99.99998% indifferent (those who didn't participate the CG) will make up their mind which side to choose ones they see the argument of getting a FREE TOP TIER DOUBLE ENGINEERED FSD all because they were discouraged from the beginning due to the steep top tier requirements.
No, they just don't care. The majority of the player base isn't emotionally enough to throw a tantrum about such a non issue.
 
I never said ED wasn't an MMO. I think it obviously is. However, I don't think that this is particularly relevant.

I was just pointing out that Frontier's left hand often doesn't know what it's right hand is doing.
Elite is a MMO, it's not a WoW clone like all the others though. Peter Molyneux' Curiosity is nothing like WoW and yet it's a MMO. Even Eve isn't anything like WoW and yet it's a MMO. The argument that a game needs to be x or do y because it's an MMO is completely irrelevant because there is no universal law which dictates how games need to be designed. If people like it or not is a different topic, but it doesn't make the argument more relevant.
 
Rather than just getting even the non-participants a participation trophy, I think the better solution is to make sure the possibility to get this FSD comes around again at some point. Perhaps double-engineering becomes a thing in Odyssey. If not, just have a CG that offers it as a reward come again periodically.
 
O god, the concept is fine. But as far as I understand FDev changed agreement AFTER the CG. That is just bad PR, you can't do that as your reputation goes down really sharp... Not that Fdev have a good reputation anyway...
So they widened the range who could have it. Big Whoopie Doo-Dah. It's not worth all the fuss the community (as per usual) are kicking up. Do you ever wonder why Frontier stopped listening to the community? THIS IS WHY.
I understand the concept just fine but it does not make it good game design for game balance altering equipment.

Imo time limited rewards.should be cosmetic only.
"game balance altering"? It's a class 5 FSD that has jump range and spool up time blueprint effects, it is hardly game balance altering.

And to clarify here, I didn't do the CG, I don't claim to be entitled to the thing.
 
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Dev diaries said so. Deal with it dude. It's a MMO. Or maybe you claim to know more about the game than the developers themselves...
My point is the developers say a lot of things often contradictory. And the MMO aspect of the game is a perfect example.

As for whining on the forum.... I guess I was wrong but I thought this was a discussion forum about the game?
 
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Again, the community kicking up a fuss over nothing.
That really isn't your call to make whether it is nothing or not. And from my point at least I am just giving my opinion not really kicking up a fuss. I think it is a poor decision but I don't expect FD to change their minds over it just giving my opinion . It is equipment which adds an extra .... 20%? To the jump range of certain ships .. that is balance altering imo and will allow ships to get to places others literally cannot.
 
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My point is the developers say a lot of things often contradictory. And the MMO aspect of the game is a perfect example.

As for whining on the forum.... I gued I was wrong but I thought this was a discussion forum about the game?
"I can't do something, make it easier!" or "Other players are better than me! Give me what better players than me have to me too just because I'm asking!" is not discussion or feedback, is whining.

And you are free to whine of course, the shame is that FDev consider that "proper feedback". Proper feedback is talking about what did wrong in an aspect of the game,proposing improvements for next time. For example: couldn't read anywhere a single player proposing to make last tier insanely high to make almost impossible a CG to be done before the end of the week, they are just happy they had the shiny toy.

Again: that's not feedback. That's being grown-up children pestering mommy and daddy because they have to eat their veggies to get cake after lunch.
 
It's only a few percent increase in jumprange. Actually 15% of base jumprange excluding FSD Booster, and only for size 5 (hence excluding the Anaconda).
 
My point is the developers say a lot of things often contradictory. And the MMO aspect of the game is a perfect example.

As for whining on the forum.... I gued I was wrong but I thought this was a discussion forum about the game?
That Elite is a MMO but not like Eve is not contradictory. Need For Speed and Project Cars are both racing games, yet they are completely different.
 
So they widened the range who could have it. Big Whoopie Doo-Dah. It's not worth all the fuss the community (as per usual) are kicking up. Do you ever wonder why Frontier stopped listening to the community? THIS IS WHY.
I see this from a different perspective. We would not have so much fuss if the rules would not be altered after the fact. FDev ask for this. Every time they do such a stupid thing they ask for outrage... And this thread is a perfect example...
 
Elite is a MMO, it's not a WoW clone like all the others though. Peter Molyneux' Curiosity is nothing like WoW and yet it's a MMO. Even Eve isn't anything like WoW and yet it's a MMO. The argument that a game needs to be x or do y because it's an MMO is completely irrelevant because there is no universal law which dictates how games need to be designed. If people like it or not is a different topic, but it doesn't make the argument more relevant.

That's pretty much what I was saying.

An MMO means it's got a lot of players that interact in some fashion and generally implies some degree of persistence. Anything beyond that is...well, beyond that.

"game balance altering"? It's a class 5 FSD that has jump range and spool up time blueprint effects, it is hardly game balance altering.

If it's not an improvement it won't be used. If it is, it's game balance altering. It may be quite subtle, but the capabilities one has are a part of the balance of the game.
 
I see this from a different perspective. We would not have so much fuss if the rules would not be altered after the fact. FDev ask for this. Every time they do such a stupid thing they ask for outrage... And this thread is a perfect example...
Oh I know. Frontier are dammed if they do and dammed if they don't.
 
If it's not an improvement it won't be used. If it is, it's game balance altering. It may be quite subtle, but the capabilities one has are a part of the balance of the game.
You could make this argument about literally every change to every game ever.
Frontier introduces new ships - game balance altering
Frontier fixes bugs - game balance altering
Frontier bans hackers - game balance altering

How about you give them a break and let them work on their game the way they choose to?
 
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