I think between the two projects (Sq42 and SC), I think its safe to say Sq42's release is the more likely.
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I think between the two projects (Sq42 and SC), I think its safe to say Sq42's release is the more likely.
Oh I do agree with that bit. Which is why I was comparing Cyberpunk 2077 to SQ42
But LA is also trying to have his cake and eat it, by comparing what is likely Cyberpunk's full budget (including online dev done to date presumably) with SQ42 & SC's combined budget. At the very least, his article doesn't cite the BOS source or their methodology, so the budget could include or exclude the online dev. But he just jumped straight in regardless
If he wants to keep SC and online out of it, he should practice what he preaches a bit more rigorously
Indeed. Let us only mention other games when its to paint SC in a (further) negative light. Otherwise, they're totally off-topic and should be pruned from the thread.
Well, yes, but even if it were an order of magnitude more more likely (and even that would be a very generous and still rather baseless assumption), that would still make it 1:10³⁹ rather than 1:10⁴⁰. So in practice, that safer bet is pretty meaningless anyway.
If you don't like seeing false statements/narratives being corrected, I recommend you steer clear of the internet
Agreed.
Unfortunately, there is little of Sq42 available to compare to Cyberpunk 2077, so backers will instead compare the latter to Star Citizen. Perceived negatives will be latched onto to help justify any personal sunk costs (emotional or financial).
Expecting a game of enormous scale and depth like Cyberpunk 2077 to not be buggy on launch is foolish.
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If you don't like my post or its content, I suggest you use the report function. As a moderator, I'm sure you know how it works.
There's no reason to report it; plus using the report function for things one doesn't like is misusing it.
I'd argue that flips both ways, with detractors doing likewise.
Indeed. Doesn't stop people as a whole doing it though. Much like I expect when SC/Sq42 drops.
Schrödinger's game, again.
Q: So when does SC drop/release?
A: It already released, you can play it right now!
Q: So we can compare it to other games?
A: No, not fair! You can only do that once it releases!
There are really only two possibilities:
1) You can compare SC, as it is, to what currently exists as-is. In that case SC is an atrocious garbage fire and loses to pretty much everything.
2) You can only compare it 'when it is finished'. Fine, but given there is no release date/year/decade, it means SC plays zero role in any game discussion for the next few years at least.
But this endless nonsense we have now is just daft.
Gamers: "Wow, look at CP77. That looks cool!"
SC fans: "What about SC, it is every bit as cool if not ten times cooler!"
Gamers: "Shall we compare?"
SC fans: "No! But you should still talk about our game too!"
I personally don't expect Sq42 to be anywhere near the scale or depth of Cyberpunk 2077, Skyrim, Red Dead Redemption 2, or Last Of Us 2. I think instead it'll be of a comparable nature to the solo campaigns of CoD Infinite Warfare and Star Wars Squadrons, and therefore should have a similar amount of launch bugs as them (i.e. relatively few).
Stuart is a moderator???
I am on Reddit, and a few gaming Discords & Twitch channels
It's funny you keep ignoring that CP is on multiple platforms.
“Thank you for playing Wing Commander.”
Not quite, no. Let's only mention other games when it is to refuse yet another ignorant assertion that SC does something that has never been done before, with fourteen layers of special pleading and no-true-scotsman layered on top. Because that's pretty much always when, why, and how it is being brought up outside of those whataboutisms that the backers try to use to paint it in a good light (because that's their only option for doing so).
CR only mentions other games to paint SC in a good light. We are just following the practice of uncle crobbler.
CR only mentions other games to paint SC in a good light. We are just following the practice of uncle crobbler.
I'm not ignoring it in any shape or form.
Firstly, you've been posting at Ant not me.
Secondly, I personally don't see the relevance in regard to the point I was making, which was about the apples and oranges comparison between single player and multiplayer games and their associated mechanics/limitations.
Thirdly based on the tone of that post, please tilt at another windmill. I'm not a SC Fanboy or any such.
It's odd you've adopted their asinine arguments, then.
Today is a very bad day for backers. Expect lots of whining and moaning.
I agree on the subject of Sq42 (I expect it to be akin to CoD Infinite Warfare) but even these sort of games (with the solid, reliable engines that they're built on) can have really buggy releases as well (looking at you, Mass Effect Andromeda).
That is why I wrote 'SC/Sq42', as from what we've seen there seems to be a lot of depth/complexity they're wanting to put into the formers mechanics and the player 'careers'.
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I kind of feel sorry for you, if that's what you see.